quote:Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
Cameron is desperate for an election, lest more damage is done by revelations. I read this morning that the Tories have lost 10 points on Labour because of the scandal. I hope Gordy ekes it out until next year
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I`d rather focus on the rich cheating man than the ordinary builder who hasn`t paid vat. I realise that may seem classist ( is that word?) but there are bigger fish to fry. Most of them are living in mansions.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I`d rather focus on the rich cheating man than the ordinary builder who hasn`t paid vat. I realise that may seem classist ( is that word?) but there are bigger fish to fry. Most of them are living in mansions.
After a conversation I had with a hypocritical local builder today in the Sandwich Shop. I would rather they go for all of the cheats.
Now!
Over to you Daily Telegraph
If they had been so called benefit cheats they would have thrown the book at them.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I`d rather focus on the rich cheating man than the ordinary builder who hasn`t paid vat. I realise that may seem classist ( is that word?) but there are bigger fish to fry. Most of them are living in mansions.
After a conversation I had with a hypocritical local builder today in the Sandwich Shop. I would rather they go for all of the cheats.
Now!
Over to you Daily Telegraph
If they had been so called benefit cheats they would have thrown the book at them.
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I don`t know what your conversation was with the builder, therefore I can`t comment. Maybe you can expand.
As for cheats, yes it would be wonderful world if we could expose all but that`s a never ending story. The Telegraph are focusing on cheating MPs and that will do for me right now. I want them out.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I don`t know what your conversation was with the builder, therefore I can`t comment. Maybe you can expand.
As for cheats, yes it would be wonderful world if we could expose all but that`s a never ending story. The Telegraph are focusing on cheating MPs and that will do for me right now. I want them out.
He was someone I know to be on the take.
I believe it was that Jebus one who said, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone!"
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
Haven't read all the posts, too many. Also I don't buy newspapers but Sky News most days and keep hearing all the different names and circumstances. What I don't understand is why some have been sacked and some haven't, and will or should any of them be answerable to the Tax inspectors or any other body if they've claimed unjustly.
From what I saw on the news earlier many seem to be jumping before they're pushed.
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
Haven't read all the posts, too many. Also I don't buy newspapers but Sky News most days and keep hearing all the different names and circumstances. What I don't understand is why some have been sacked and some haven't, and will or should any of them be answerable to the Tax inspectors or any other body if they've claimed unjustly.
From what I saw on the news earlier many seem to be jumping before they're pushed.
There's no leadership. Gordon Brown is a spent force (if he ever was a force). He is just set on the 'big job', he's become a useless tool in the party, a reactionary rather than an action man.
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
Haven't read all the posts, too many. Also I don't buy newspapers but Sky News most days and keep hearing all the different names and circumstances. What I don't understand is why some have been sacked and some haven't, and will or should any of them be answerable to the Tax inspectors or any other body if they've claimed unjustly.
From what I saw on the news earlier many seem to be jumping before they're pushed.
There's no leadership. Gordon Brown is a spent force (if he ever was a force). He is just set on the 'big job', he's become a useless tool in the party, a reactionary rather than an action man.
Considering all the advisors he must have around him, and from his own observations through the media, he must knows what the public think on many issues that they're angry about so it seems strange he doesn't take a more proactive stand so the public would feel he's doing something positive. It all just seems to go on and on while he seemingly does nothing about anything. The MP's are making decsions that suit themselves, what decisions is he making that the public want him to make. At one time I was very politically involved and aware but have lost interest the last few years, I realised it was all wasted energy
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
Cologne 1. I still remember the feeling of euphoria that not only I felt but it seemed the majority of the UK when Blair came into office after such a long term of Conservative sleaze etc. Personally I felt it went wrong for Blair when he believed Bush's assumption that it was right to stage war on Iraq, what that had to do with 9/ll I never did understand as I couldn't see the connection.
Blair had charisma, Brown doesn't, not that charisma means anything in the bigger picture, taking care of the country and it's people is far more important but I too don't see what benefit Brown's bought to the general public, so as a socialist I've been very disappointed, although some situations like greedy Bankers and Financial institutions were probably outside of his control
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:
It might not be a popular view and I am Johnny Foreigner, but from where I'm standing, Gordon Brown has done nothing for this country. He's an economist, so whoever thought he might be a good Prime Minister should be shot.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:
It might not be a popular view and I am Johnny Foreigner, but from where I'm standing, Gordon Brown has done nothing for this country. He's an economist, so whoever thought he might be a good Prime Minister should be shot.
Short of some global miracle, he's set the country up for a radical Conservative government and a whole generation of austerity. If he's an economist, he's a poor one. He actively promoted a decade of Good Times and High Living and left the country wide open to an economic shock, just so he could pursue his personal socialist agenda. What a tosser.
quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Much as I don't like the Tories I do think thats its not good for any party to be in power for too long...Governments need to change every so often
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Much as I don't like the Tories I do think thats its not good for any party to be in power for too long...Governments need to change every so often
Especially when the government in power is morally corrupt and as ineffectual as this one
quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I have to say though that we have been far better off under this Government than we were the previous one!
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:
If they had been so called benefit cheats they would have thrown the book at them.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I have to say though that we have been far better off under this Government than we were the previous one!
Don't agree with you, but I am too tired for a political discussion this morning
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I have to say though that we have been far better off under this Government than we were the previous one!
Don't agree with you, but I am too tired for a political discussion this morning
quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
There's winners and losers under every Governemnt...
quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
There's winners and losers under every Governemnt...
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
i dont see many winners at the moment under this government we have workers at all levels scare of losing their jobs, having pay or hours cuts and extended closures and the number of millionaires in the uk has dropped from almost 500,000 to below 250,000.
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
i dont see many winners at the moment under this government we have workers at all levels scare of losing their jobs, having pay or hours cuts and extended closures and the number of millionaires in the uk has dropped from almost 500,000 to below 250,000.
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
i dont see many winners at the moment under this government we have workers at all levels scare of losing their jobs, having pay or hours cuts and extended closures and the number of millionaires in the uk has dropped from almost 500,000 to below 250,000.
The MPs weren't doing so bad
quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
All I said was that we, as a family, are better off and get all sorts of shit spouted at me like I'm too stupid to know whats going on and thats thats nothing to do with what I posted!
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
i dont see many winners at the moment under this government we have workers at all levels scare of losing their jobs, having pay or hours cuts and extended closures and the number of millionaires in the uk has dropped from almost 500,000 to below 250,000.
The MPs weren't doing so bad
Yep, the only ones that are
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
and insolvency practitioners and administrators
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
and insolvency practitioners and administrators
Indeed. Bailiffs must be doing ok too at the moment.
