I can't recall a more incompetent and unconvincing Home Secretary. Can you?Replies sorted oldest to newest
quote:Originally posted by Deegs:
sorry..."to leave Cabinet"
quote:Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
She should have gone after the 'porn' vid scandal. Good riddance.
Mind you, you gotta feel sorry for the bloke (being married to her, he could probably use all the help he can get).quote:Originally posted by ~Orchid~:quote:Originally posted by Deegs:
sorry..."to leave Cabinet"
I was going to ask if she was going to populate the cabinet with eggs or something lol I read that as: Jackie Smith to larvae cabinet!
quote:Originally posted by jonono:
I did see her on newsnight last night and think 'are you STILL there?'
Beggars belief she's lasted so long, given her history of total incompetence & bungling.quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:
Has it been confirmed yet?
quote:Originally posted by Deegs:
...announcemnt of how and when expected today.
Not a moment too soon
quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:
Just hoping it's not a false alarm!
The sooner she goes the better.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Was she on Newsnight last night?
I only managed to watch the Harriet Harman bit.
Why wasn't she booted out quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Deegs:
...announcemnt of how and when expected today.
Not a moment too soon
Reg Maudling
Robert Carr
Dave Waddington
Ken Baker
David Blunkett
Charles Clarke
John Reid
Other than those... Not really. No!
quote:Originally posted by Deegs:quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:
Just hoping it's not a false alarm!
The sooner she goes the better.
Just announced on Sky she's resigning at the next Cabinet re-shuffle........
...dont let the door hit ya in the....on the way out,
quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Was she on Newsnight last night?
I only managed to watch the Harriet Harman bit.
I thought that, then I thought nah, Jonono's cleverer than me, she must be right
quote:Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
Awful woman. She will hardly be missed tho.
I'm worried about who will take over from her.
Milliband?? They are all so awful.
And Ed Balls as potential Chancellor....OMG!
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
quote:Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
Awful woman. She will hardly be missed tho.
I'm worried about who will take over from her.
Milliband?? They are all so awful.
And Ed Balls as potential Chancellor....OMG!
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
Awful woman. She will hardly be missed tho.
I'm worried about who will take over from her.
Milliband?? They are all so awful.
And Ed Balls as potential Chancellor....OMG!
This is my point about British Society in the last two decades. It applies to most decision making, and not only in politics, mind.
Knee jerk reactions.
No Plan B.
quote:Originally posted by Deegs:quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
Awful woman. She will hardly be missed tho.
I'm worried about who will take over from her.
Milliband?? They are all so awful.
And Ed Balls as potential Chancellor....OMG!
This is my point about British Society in the last two decades. It applies to most decision making, and not only in politics, mind.
Knee jerk reactions.
No Plan B.
Completely agree with the lack of Plan B options. So, what can be done when Plan A performs spectacularly BADLY?
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
Awful woman. She will hardly be missed tho.
I'm worried about who will take over from her.
Milliband?? They are all so awful.
And Ed Balls as potential Chancellor....OMG!
Alan Johnson?....I want him to take over from Brown, ONLY cause we have the SAME name, and it would be "interesting" everytime someone asks me for MY name
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I still maintain that the Telegraph embarked on a very dangerous trend. They, or whoever the people are behind all this, are the ones who should be looking at Plan B.
Where will it all stop?
Or are they just singling out MPs?
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
Awful woman. She will hardly be missed tho.
I'm worried about who will take over from her.
Milliband?? They are all so awful.
And Ed Balls as potential Chancellor....OMG!
This is my point about British Society in the last two decades. It applies to most decision making, and not only in politics, mind.
Knee jerk reactions.
No Plan B.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Deegs:quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
Awful woman. She will hardly be missed tho.
I'm worried about who will take over from her.
Milliband?? They are all so awful.
And Ed Balls as potential Chancellor....OMG!
This is my point about British Society in the last two decades. It applies to most decision making, and not only in politics, mind.
Knee jerk reactions.
No Plan B.
Completely agree with the lack of Plan B options. So, what can be done when Plan A performs spectacularly BADLY?
I still maintain that the Telegraph embarked on a very dangerous trend. They, or whoever the people are behind all this, are the ones who should be looking at Plan B.
Where will it all stop?
Or are they just singling out MPs?
quote:Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
Although I think it is a good thing that The Telegraph highlighted the scandal of MP's scandal I think thosands of years of Parliamentary sovereingty will be undermind if the Telegraph don't stop though.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
Although I think it is a good thing that The Telegraph highlighted the scandal of MP's scandal I think thosands of years of Parliamentary sovereingty will be undermind if the Telegraph don't stop though.
It looks like that has happened.
quote:Originally posted by Deegs:quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I still maintain that the Telegraph embarked on a very dangerous trend. They, or whoever the people are behind all this, are the ones who should be looking at Plan B.
Where will it all stop?
Or are they just singling out MPs?
Interesting viewpoint and, again, I completely agree. But (and there's always a "but") are you saying that, after sounding the alarm to raise public awareness, the Telegraph shouldn't be engaging in these protracted name & shame revalations because we're about to run out of MPs?
quote:Originally posted by Aquarius 11:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Aquarius 11:
Awful woman. She will hardly be missed tho.
I'm worried about who will take over from her.
Milliband?? They are all so awful.
And Ed Balls as potential Chancellor....OMG!
Alan Johnson?....I want him to take over from Brown, ONLY cause we have the SAME name, and it would be "interesting" everytime someone asks me for MY name
Well hippy, Johnson can't be any worse.
Or can he......I've said that about so many of them.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Deegs:quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I still maintain that the Telegraph embarked on a very dangerous trend. They, or whoever the people are behind all this, are the ones who should be looking at Plan B.
Where will it all stop?
Or are they just singling out MPs?
Interesting viewpoint and, again, I completely agree. But (and there's always a "but") are you saying that, after sounding the alarm to raise public awareness, the Telegraph shouldn't be engaging in these protracted name & shame revalations because we're about to run out of MPs?
I think that if The Telegraph were to examine various other sectors then they would run out of everyone.
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Great news but when is the next cabinet reshuffle? How much will she earn fron now til then?
I`m disgusted that so many mp`s who have reluctantly admitted (ooh it was all a mistake) to diddling the system are staying on until the next election, they`ve decided. What a damn cheek! 200 more grand in their greedy pockets and WE are paying for these users!
Stand up and be counted..complain..complain! Make your voice heard..they CANNOT get away with this! Hanging on to your job after fraud and choosing when you leave? How many get away with that?
SACK THEM NOW!
Friday, apparently. quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Hanging on to your job after fraud and choosing when you leave? How many get away with that?
SACK THEM NOW!
if it happens, then she can watch pornos with her husband without it being at our expense 
. She's messed up on most things so far well they all have.quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Great news but when is the next cabinet reshuffle? How much will she earn fron now til then?
I`m disgusted that so many mp`s who have reluctantly admitted (ooh it was all a mistake) to diddling the system are staying on until the next election, they`ve decided. What a damn cheek! 200 more grand in their greedy pockets and WE are paying for these users!
Stand up and be counted..complain..complain! Make your voice heard..they CANNOT get away with this! Hanging on to your job after fraud and choosing when you leave? How many get away with that?
SACK THEM NOW!
Hi Scotty
Friday..great..but only cabinet. It still won`t rid us of the cheaters who are draining us with their duckponds, hanging baskets and more importantly double/triple homes and employing family,who don`t actually work for them. I`m fuming. 
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Hanging on to your job after fraud and choosing when you leave? How many get away with that?
SACK THEM NOW!
We won't know until The Telegraph tells us who they all are.
.quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:
They need to start on the Lords next.
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Hanging on to your job after fraud and choosing when you leave? How many get away with that?
SACK THEM NOW!
We won't know until The Telegraph tells us who they all are.
Some have admiited it and have decided to stay on until the next election. How dare they?
The telegraph have said it`s going to be a long haul to decipher what is what, but they will. They have the fine details. I for one can`t wait. So far some they have exposed have either resigned or are hanging on by a brass neck thread.
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:
They need to start on the Lords next.
Bliddy Lords! Who do they think they are?
Aaaaahhhh!
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Great news but when is the next cabinet reshuffle? How much will she earn fron now til then?
I`m disgusted that so many mp`s who have reluctantly admitted (ooh it was all a mistake) to diddling the system are staying on until the next election, they`ve decided. What a damn cheek! 200 more grand in their greedy pockets and WE are paying for these users!
Stand up and be counted..complain..complain! Make your voice heard..they CANNOT get away with this! Hanging on to your job after fraud and choosing when you leave? How many get away with that?
SACK THEM NOW!
Hi Scotty
Hiya cologne
wnquote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
We'll just end up with Vince Cable, as a benign dictator!
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
We'll just end up with Vince Cable, as a benign dictator!
quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
We'll just end up with Vince Cable, as a benign dictator!
....... don't forget Ann Widdecombe - she's not had her fingers in the till.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
We'll just end up with Vince Cable, as a benign dictator!
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
We'll just end up with Vince Cable, as a benign dictator!
Vince Cable was born in York and as such is not allowed to stand in the Benin Republic.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
We'll just end up with Vince Cable, as a benign dictator!
Vince Cable was born in York and as such is not allowed to stand in the Benin Republic.
He will invade, benignly!
...and competently.quote:Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
They are singling out a lot more Labour MP's than Conservative ones.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
We'll just end up with Vince Cable, as a benign dictator!
....... don't forget Ann Widdecombe - she's not had her fingers in the till.
She hasn't put her fingers anywhere!
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
We'll just end up with Vince Cable, as a benign dictator!
....... don't forget Ann Widdecombe - she's not had her fingers in the till.
She hasn't put her fingers anywhere!
, cringe.quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:
Edwina Currie and John Majors affair was
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Hanging on to your job after fraud and choosing when you leave? How many get away with that?
SACK THEM NOW!
We won't know until The Telegraph tells us who they all are.
Some have admiited it and have decided to stay on until the next election. How dare they?
The telegraph have said it`s going to be a long haul to decipher what is what, but they will. They have the fine details. I for one can`t wait. So far some they have exposed have either resigned or are hanging on by a brass neck thread.
No no! You misunderstand. You asked how many fraudsters elsewhere would get away with it. I am hoping that The Telegraph will tell us who they all are. Be it the non tax paying CEO head of a multinational right down to your local builder who is happy to accept cash.
I can't wait.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:
Edwina Currie and John Majors affair was
It was wrong on so many levels
John Major was a waste of space.
, they both ended up begging on their knees afterwards though , no wonder they can't stand each other now.quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:
They need to start on the Lords next.
Bliddy Lords! Who do they think they are?
Aaaaahhhh!
They usually turn up for a free lunch and a good sleep in the chamber.
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
Great news but when is the next cabinet reshuffle? How much will she earn fron now til then?
I`m disgusted that so many mp`s who have reluctantly admitted (ooh it was all a mistake) to diddling the system are staying on until the next election, they`ve decided. What a damn cheek! 200 more grand in their greedy pockets and WE are paying for these users!
Stand up and be counted..complain..complain! Make your voice heard..they CANNOT get away with this! Hanging on to your job after fraud and choosing when you leave? How many get away with that?
SACK THEM NOW!
Hi Scotty
Hiya cologne
I know, it's quite maddening. I still maintain that it's about time the paper printed a list of MPs not involved in excessive money mongering. It's no good making the electorate feel that they can't trust anybody, it's bad for democracy, IMHO.
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I agree with that. I believe the Telegraph have said they want to but they have a lot of detailed ground to cover yet. If you`re innocent you have nothing to worry about. That can be easily relayed to your constituents now.
I expect a lot of them are having sleepless nights. Take Alistair Darling, going about his business while the whole time he's dreading the next installment. 
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I agree with that. I believe the Telegraph have said they want to but they have a lot of detailed ground to cover yet. If you`re innocent you have nothing to worry about. That can be easily relayed to your constituents now.
quote:Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
Cameron is desperate for an election, lest more damage is done by revelations. I read this morning that the Tories have lost 10 points on Labour because of the scandal. I hope Gordy ekes it out until next year
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I`d rather focus on the rich cheating man than the ordinary builder who hasn`t paid vat. I realise that may seem classist ( is that word?) but there are bigger fish to fry. Most of them are living in mansions.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I`d rather focus on the rich cheating man than the ordinary builder who hasn`t paid vat. I realise that may seem classist ( is that word?) but there are bigger fish to fry. Most of them are living in mansions.
After a conversation I had with a hypocritical local builder today in the Sandwich Shop. I would rather they go for all of the cheats.
Now!
Over to you Daily Telegraph
If they had been so called benefit cheats they would have thrown the book at them.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I`d rather focus on the rich cheating man than the ordinary builder who hasn`t paid vat. I realise that may seem classist ( is that word?) but there are bigger fish to fry. Most of them are living in mansions.
After a conversation I had with a hypocritical local builder today in the Sandwich Shop. I would rather they go for all of the cheats.
Now!
Over to you Daily Telegraph
If they had been so called benefit cheats they would have thrown the book at them.
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I don`t know what your conversation was with the builder, therefore I can`t comment. Maybe you can expand.
As for cheats, yes it would be wonderful world if we could expose all but that`s a never ending story. The Telegraph are focusing on cheating MPs and that will do for me right now. I want them out.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Scotty:
I don`t know what your conversation was with the builder, therefore I can`t comment. Maybe you can expand.
As for cheats, yes it would be wonderful world if we could expose all but that`s a never ending story. The Telegraph are focusing on cheating MPs and that will do for me right now. I want them out.
He was someone I know to be on the take.
I believe it was that Jebus one who said, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone!"
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
Haven't read all the posts, too many. Also I don't buy newspapers but Sky News most days and keep hearing all the different names and circumstances. What I don't understand is why some have been sacked and some haven't, and will or should any of them be answerable to the Tax inspectors or any other body if they've claimed unjustly.
From what I saw on the news earlier many seem to be jumping before they're pushed.
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
Haven't read all the posts, too many. Also I don't buy newspapers but Sky News most days and keep hearing all the different names and circumstances. What I don't understand is why some have been sacked and some haven't, and will or should any of them be answerable to the Tax inspectors or any other body if they've claimed unjustly.
From what I saw on the news earlier many seem to be jumping before they're pushed.
There's no leadership. Gordon Brown is a spent force (if he ever was a force). He is just set on the 'big job', he's become a useless tool in the party, a reactionary rather than an action man.
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
Haven't read all the posts, too many. Also I don't buy newspapers but Sky News most days and keep hearing all the different names and circumstances. What I don't understand is why some have been sacked and some haven't, and will or should any of them be answerable to the Tax inspectors or any other body if they've claimed unjustly.
From what I saw on the news earlier many seem to be jumping before they're pushed.
There's no leadership. Gordon Brown is a spent force (if he ever was a force). He is just set on the 'big job', he's become a useless tool in the party, a reactionary rather than an action man.
Considering all the advisors he must have around him, and from his own observations through the media, he must knows what the public think on many issues that they're angry about so it seems strange he doesn't take a more proactive stand so the public would feel he's doing something positive. It all just seems to go on and on while he seemingly does nothing about anything. The MP's are making decsions that suit themselves, what decisions is he making that the public want him to make. At one time I was very politically involved and aware but have lost interest the last few years, I realised it was all wasted energy
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
Cologne 1. I still remember the feeling of euphoria that not only I felt but it seemed the majority of the UK when Blair came into office after such a long term of Conservative sleaze etc. Personally I felt it went wrong for Blair when he believed Bush's assumption that it was right to stage war on Iraq, what that had to do with 9/ll I never did understand as I couldn't see the connection.
Blair had charisma, Brown doesn't, not that charisma means anything in the bigger picture, taking care of the country and it's people is far more important but I too don't see what benefit Brown's bought to the general public, so as a socialist I've been very disappointed, although some situations like greedy Bankers and Financial institutions were probably outside of his control
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:
It might not be a popular view and I am Johnny Foreigner, but from where I'm standing, Gordon Brown has done nothing for this country. He's an economist, so whoever thought he might be a good Prime Minister should be shot.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:
It might not be a popular view and I am Johnny Foreigner, but from where I'm standing, Gordon Brown has done nothing for this country. He's an economist, so whoever thought he might be a good Prime Minister should be shot.
Short of some global miracle, he's set the country up for a radical Conservative government and a whole generation of austerity. If he's an economist, he's a poor one. He actively promoted a decade of Good Times and High Living and left the country wide open to an economic shock, just so he could pursue his personal socialist agenda. What a tosser.
