Sky latest, he's been in court this morning and has been charged with one court of murder 

They want to charge him with premeditated murder  his back in court Tuesday to discuss bail 

You know... we often say the law's an ass here - but aren't you glad we don't have the South African legal system?    The chief investigating officer in the case is due in court himself in a couple of months charged with several counts of murder?   Why is he still even working, never mind heading up a case like this.   His first testimony's already been proved to be a load of bollox.    I honestly don't know whether Pistorius is guilty or not and with developments so far, I'm not sure we ever will

According to the BBC website, it is also alleged that the officer wasn't wearing protective clothing when looking over the crime scene; the "steroids" are in fact a herbal remedy used by lots of athletes; the officer claimed a witness heard the arguement between Oscar and Reeva from 600m away from the house but changed it to 300m, after a meal break. The officer also had to admit, when cross-examined by the defence, that there is nothing in the forensic evidence which disproves Oscar's version of events. 

Hmm, not sure what/who to believe.

I was saying the same yesterday, this is like he's on trial already and not a Bail hearing, scary place 

One hopes that the investigator has been watching Spiral

Aye  

It's looking like they aren't going to reach a decision till tomorrow now 

It's a bit farcical already....and all they're trying to decide just now is whether he can be bailed or not!

Shocking isn't it and it looks like they let anybody in to the court, there was even one bloke eating his dinner 

It's a total circus,how they can select an impartial jury must be impossible.Reminds me of the showboating lawyers in American cases.

He should change his name to Oscar Pistolrius

Why do I get the feeling that all this mess around simple bail (which he should not get IMO) will in the end see that the poor dead woman will not get justice.?

I dont think they use juries over there Katty.

No, I don't think so... all down to a judge.  In a country where policemen aren't even suspended when they're charged with murder 

He had been cleared of attempted murder hadn't he. Then as soon as this bloke was accused of accidentally multiple shooting his g/f the copper was recharged. No prizes for guessing what result the corrupt SA government would prefer.

Really - I'll have to go and read up, I've only heard parts of it on the news.   What a country.

I've got a dark feeling that old Pistol Pistorius will walk away scott free at the end of this.

No bail decision today, news conference soon 

Police replace lead investigator in the case, you couldn't make this up 

You really couldn't  its incredible!

Yes you could.

According to this - http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl...tha-attempted-murder - the charges were dropped, but then reinstated 10 days before Pistorius shot Reeva.

Couldn't Pistolrius just have checked first to see if he had an intruder, like...before he shot off his gun?

 

I would prefer to see what im shooting at before i wildly fire my gun.

Oooerr.

  filth, pure filth.

Yes well... 

 

on a serious note - I'd like to think a bloke's first thought if he was getting up to shoot an intruder would be to make sure his gf was ok, tell her to stay where she was, or phone the police, rather than get out of bed without noticing she wasn't there.   Then again, if I got up for a wee in the middle of the night I probably wouldn't lock myself in the bathroom

Oh! ........ Sorry Lillibet! I will try to check my facts in future. (Entre nous, whilst I try to remain fair, I will be the first to admit that I am bigoted against the South African administration. I still boycott their produce and am of course a veteran sports protestor. Having said that, I notice that Steve Biko's ex-partner is attempting to start an anti-AN

C party, so who knows what the future may bring? Equal rights and opportunities for all?)

I was being serious, no one seems to be suggesting that it's a bit strange that he shot at someone he couldn't see, knowing his GF might be the one he could hear in the other room...no one in the press seems to be making that obvious point.

 

But yes, I agree with you.

It does seem very odd

Yeah Kaffs...locking the door? Does that add up?

No, he hadn't been cleared. It's just that the charge had been dropped. The charge was reinstated earlier this month, before Pistorius shot Reeva, so it's a puzzle as to why Botha was allowed anywhere near this case.

My thought exactly Kaffy.

Kaffy, I think he was already up and had gone out on the balcony - however it's still a bit strange that he 'assumed' that Reeva was still in bed. Surely it wouldn't have been that hard to check?

 

It's not as if getting up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night/early hours is such a strange thing.

He got up from bed and he went to get a fan from the balcony(why? in the middle of the night he decided to do that who knows )thats when he heard the noise coming from the bathroom area and thought he had an intruder so he called out to the 'intruder'so why did his GF not answer that it was herself in the bathroom,his story doesn't make much sense.I also find it unusual that an intruder would lock themselves in your bathroom,if that's the way the intruder came into his house then surely the intruder would exit the house the same way when he heard the owner had been disturbed.The Bathroom was the only room that did not have window bars.

Yeah, Fluffs - I'd read he'd been on the balcony too.   Even more reason, you'd think for him to have checked she was ok - not as if he woke up with a start and reacted without thinking.

I think the whole thing...the murder, the police actions, the bail hearing..... are all very strange....

What sort of door was it? and how did he manage to hit her 3 times through a locked door 

I wouldn't like to be on trial there that's for sure