Baz posted:I enjoyed the Loch last night
Cosmopolitan posted:The Loch (Fort Augustus still looks so pretty 25 years on since I was there), and it reminds me of Broadchurch a bit.
The Handmaid's Tale (depressing but somehow engrossing - no I haven't read the book), and Fearless which I only half watched but seems to have more twists than a twisty thing.
After seeing your posts, I managed to watch The Loch on Catch Up. I'm enjoying it.
Carnelian posted:
This scene, although fiction, made me actually angry. How many dramas can evoke such a reaction?
I'm pretty rubbish at watching telly - I 'watch' a lot, but generally do other things at the same time, surf the net, make a cuppa, flick through a paper etc. This is one of a few series that I try to watch 'live' and I'm glued to it from start to finish. It's chilling, thought provoking, frustrating - and it's made me laugh uncomfortably at times too (seriously.. the birthing scene?????!) It's brilliant, and has been said already, probably on here, all the more disturbing when you think that parts of the 'drama' are actually happening now in some parts of the world.
Kaffs posted:Carnelian posted:
This scene, although fiction, made me actually angry. How many dramas can evoke such a reaction?
I'm pretty rubbish at watching telly - I 'watch' a lot, but generally do other things at the same time, surf the net, make a cuppa, flick through a paper etc. This is one of a few series that I try to watch 'live' and I'm glued to it from start to finish. It's chilling, thought provoking, frustrating - and it's made me laugh uncomfortably at times too (seriously.. the birthing scene?????!) It's brilliant, and has been said already, probably on here, all the more disturbing when you think that parts of the 'drama' are actually happening now in some parts of the world.
Very true, and I'm sure it's why the TV series (and book) has affected so many people as it has you and Carnelian.
For those who don't know, Margaret Atwood has always maintained that all the main events in her book have occurred in real life at some point. My understanding is that when the TV series includes scenes that aren't in the book (such as what happens to Ofglen in the scene above and the subsequent "Redemption" scene), the makers have tried to stick to this rule.
It's because of this that Atwood doesn't like her work being referred to as Science Fiction, preferring the term "speculative fiction". As the writer and critic David Langford once famously put it: "The Handmaid's Tale won the very first Arthur C. Clarke Award in 1987. She's been trying to live this down ever since." 
Eugene's Lair posted:Kaffs posted:Carnelian posted:
This scene, although fiction, made me actually angry. How many dramas can evoke such a reaction?
I'm pretty rubbish at watching telly - I 'watch' a lot, but generally do other things at the same time, surf the net, make a cuppa, flick through a paper etc. This is one of a few series that I try to watch 'live' and I'm glued to it from start to finish. It's chilling, thought provoking, frustrating - and it's made me laugh uncomfortably at times too (seriously.. the birthing scene?????!) It's brilliant, and has been said already, probably on here, all the more disturbing when you think that parts of the 'drama' are actually happening now in some parts of the world.
Very true, and I'm sure it's why the TV series (and book) has affected so many people as it has you and Carnelian.
For those who don't know, Margaret Atwood has always maintained that all the main events in her book have occurred in real life at some point. My understanding is that when the TV series includes scenes that aren't in the book (such as what happens to Ofglen in the scene above and the subsequent "Redemption" scene), the makers have tried to stick to this rule.
It's because of this that Atwood doesn't like her work being referred to as Science Fiction, preferring the term "speculative fiction". As the writer and critic David Langford once famously put it: "The Handmaid's Tale won the very first Arthur C. Clarke Award in 1987. She's been trying to live this down ever since."
That's interesting Eugene - and makes a lot of sense.
Kaffs posted:Eugene's Lair posted:Kaffs posted:Carnelian posted:
This scene, although fiction, made me actually angry. How many dramas can evoke such a reaction?
I'm pretty rubbish at watching telly - I 'watch' a lot, but generally do other things at the same time, surf the net, make a cuppa, flick through a paper etc. This is one of a few series that I try to watch 'live' and I'm glued to it from start to finish. It's chilling, thought provoking, frustrating - and it's made me laugh uncomfortably at times too (seriously.. the birthing scene?????!) It's brilliant, and has been said already, probably on here, all the more disturbing when you think that parts of the 'drama' are actually happening now in some parts of the world.
Very true, and I'm sure it's why the TV series (and book) has affected so many people as it has you and Carnelian.
For those who don't know, Margaret Atwood has always maintained that all the main events in her book have occurred in real life at some point. My understanding is that when the TV series includes scenes that aren't in the book (such as what happens to Ofglen in the scene above and the subsequent "Redemption" scene), the makers have tried to stick to this rule.
It's because of this that Atwood doesn't like her work being referred to as Science Fiction, preferring the term "speculative fiction". As the writer and critic David Langford once famously put it: "The Handmaid's Tale won the very first Arthur C. Clarke Award in 1987. She's been trying to live this down ever since."
That's interesting Eugene - and makes a lot of sense.
Yes, Margaret Atwood collected press clippings on similar events around the world. Many of the injustices against women in her book are daily life in nations like Iran and Isis/Taliban controlled areas, then there's the religious cults that practice various aspects of her speculative dystopia. Her book was written at a time when the fundamentalist Christian hard-line right were in the ascendancy in the US and it's only less than 100 years since women weren't allowed to vote in our country.
Her view is that all the victories of women (and to a lesser extent liberalism in general) could be reversed with the rise of a theocratic regime that has 'the answers' for enough people, to a prevailing crisis. She's not wrong, such a regime arose in Iran and cast out emancipation of women in favour of a strict fundamentalist Islamic code.
America is not the UK, America is vastly more religious (particularly Christian) than the UK. Superficially America may seem very similar to the UK but it's not.
Why is ITV not showing the football semi final ??
Third place - Portugal v Mexico
Watched on a friends dodgy site via FOX SPORT 1
it was epic
The commentator 'made' the game shouting,
"G-o-o-o-o-a-a-a-l-l-l-l-l" 
Brilliant (i'm gonna miss him 
Haven't really been mentioning "Broken" on here, but is anyone-else still recovering after the ending? 
"We might be bruised, but we're not broken." 
Eugene's Lair posted:Haven't really been mentioning "Broken" on here, but is anyone-else still recovering after the ending?
"We might be bruised, but we're not broken."
Me. Wasn't it brilliant? Love Sean Bean and love anything Jimmy McGovern does so I thought we'd be in for a great series and I wasn't disappointed.
Eugene's Lair posted:Haven't really been mentioning "Broken" on here, but is anyone-else still recovering after the ending?
"We might be bruised, but we're not broken."
Kaffs posted:Eugene's Lair posted:Haven't really been mentioning "Broken" on here, but is anyone-else still recovering after the ending?
"We might be bruised, but we're not broken."
Me. Wasn't it brilliant? Love Sean Bean and love anything Jimmy McGovern does so I thought we'd be in for a great series and I wasn't disappointed.
velvet donkey posted:It was absolutely mesmerising. Best thing in a long time
Thanks to your recommendations, I've watched the first episode on BBC iPlayer and will watch the rest.
I'm watching Phil Spencer.....Find Me a Home on C4
Joanna Lumley's India
The only thing I'm finding annoying about this programme is JL herself,. Everything is lovely, delicious, beautiful. It gets a bit wearing when someone like everything, just don't happen.
Apart from that, it's quite informative and interesting in equal measure.
Baz posted:Watched the first episode of In the Dark .....and really enjoyed it
Which channel is it on, Baz?
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Joanna Lumley's India
The only thing I'm finding annoying about this programme is JL herself,. Everything is lovely, delicious, beautiful. It gets a bit wearing when someone like everything, just don't happen.
Apart from that, it's quite informative and interesting in equal measure.
I love JL but I haven't seen any of this series.
i dont know how i let this one slip past but it looks good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khr7dbuBjuE
i was glued to making a murderer
this one is supposed to make you think even more
Baz posted:Yogi19 posted:Baz posted:Watched the first episode of In the Dark .....and really enjoyed it
Which channel is it on, Baz?
BBC 1 Tuesday Yogi ....I think you'd like it too
I've watched the first episode, Baz, and you were right.
It's based on a Mark Billingham book - I've read a couple of his books.
pirate1111 posted:i dont know how i let this one slip past but it looks good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khr7dbuBjuE
i was glued to making a murderer
this one is supposed to make you think even more
I found Making A Murderer compulsive viewing and I keep forgetting to watch The Keepers. Let me know if it's any good.
Yogi19 posted:pirate1111 posted:i dont know how i let this one slip past but it looks good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khr7dbuBjuE
i was glued to making a murderer
this one is supposed to make you think even more
I found Making A Murderer compulsive viewing and I keep forgetting to watch The Keepers. Let me know if it's any good.
we watched ..lisa was like
i told her it was 1st ep-and they concentrate on building the story..then..like making a murderer..they go in deep & start exposing the bullsh!t
so every episode makes you go 'WTF'
but she said it was boring & went to bed
i have stockpiled snacks to watch it when shes out
pirate1111 posted:Yogi19 posted:pirate1111 posted:i dont know how i let this one slip past but it looks good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khr7dbuBjuE
i was glued to making a murderer
this one is supposed to make you think even more
I found Making A Murderer compulsive viewing and I keep forgetting to watch The Keepers. Let me know if it's any good.
we watched ..lisa was like
i told her it was 1st ep-and they concentrate on building the story..then..like making a murderer..they go in deep & start exposing the bullsh!t
so every episode makes you go 'WTF'
but she said it was boring & went to bed
i have stockpiled snacks to watch it when shes out
Let me know if it's worth watching
im on 4th episode & yeah..its worth a watch, the catholic church is worse than any criminal organisation
friends everywhere
pirate1111 posted:
im on 4th episode & yeah..its worth a watch, the catholic church is worse than any criminal organisation
friends everywhere
Thanks Pirate, I'll give it a go then.
No fixed dates, but a couple of "coming soon" heads-ups based on teaser trailers I saw this evening on C4:
Firstly; "Eden: Paradise Lost" - the already notorious coda for the doomed reality TV series is finally on its way.
Secondly; "Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams" - an anthology series based on the works of *ahem* Philip K. Dick. (For those who don't know, Dick wrote "The Man in the High Castle" as well as the original works behind "Blade Runner", "Total Recall" and "Minority Report".)
Eugene's Lair posted:No fixed dates, but a couple of "coming soon" heads-ups based on teaser trailers I saw this evening on C4:
Firstly; "Eden: Paradise Lost" - the already notorious coda for the doomed reality TV series is finally on its way.
Secondly; "Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams" - an anthology series based on the works of *ahem* Philip K. Dick. (For those who don't know, Dick wrote "The Man in the High Castle" as well as the original works behind "Blade Runner", "Total Recall" and "Minority Report".)
Thanks for the heads up, Eugene.
Looking forward to Top of The Lake , new series coming to BBC2 on the 27th
Amythist posted:Looking forward to Top of The Lake , new series coming to BBC2 on the 27th
Me too.
Alison Graham writes in the Radio Times that it is "ponderous, pretentious and frequently baffling." - bring it on!
[PS: Graham also notes that Nicole Kidman and Elisabeth Moss are terrific in it. ]
Eugene's Lair posted:Amythist posted:Looking forward to Top of The Lake , new series coming to BBC2 on the 27th
Me too.
Alison Graham writes in the Radio Times that it is "ponderous, pretentious and frequently baffling." - bring it on!
[PS: Graham also notes that Nicole Kidman and Elisabeth Moss are terrific in it.
I heard a promo for this today ...sounded good
It's been a tough slog at times, but it's finally coming to an end:
The last ever episode of "Ripper Street" is on BBC2 shortly (9pm).
Baz posted:Eugene's Lair posted:It's been a tough slog at times, but it's finally coming to an end:
The last ever episode of "Ripper Street" is on BBC2 shortly (9pm).
I've got the whole of this series to watch ....I shall binge on it sometime soon
Without going into spoilers... 
It's not the cheeriest of endings, Baz, but it's a fitting ending: lots of little rewards for the long-standing fans, and a rather appropriate last nod to the original point of the whole show...
Yogi19 posted:Eugene's Lair posted:No fixed dates, but a couple of "coming soon" heads-ups based on teaser trailers I saw this evening on C4:
Firstly; "Eden: Paradise Lost" - the already notorious coda for the doomed reality TV series is finally on its way.
Secondly; "Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams" - an anthology series based on the works of *ahem* Philip K. Dick. (For those who don't know, Dick wrote "The Man in the High Castle" as well as the original works behind "Blade Runner", "Total Recall" and "Minority Report".)
Thanks to a new trailer and a DS article, we can now confirm that "Eden: Paradise Lost" will start on C4 at 10pm on August the 7th, and will run for 5 nights consecutively.
One of the bizarre outcomes of this is that the Eden post-mortem will cover more broadcast episodes than the original reality show did!
Channel 4 will finally reveal what happened to the contestants of Eden
Tonight sees Only Connect return
This time I shall put it on series link on my relatively new Humax tellybox recording contraption.
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Tonight sees Only Connect return
This time I shall put it on series link on my relatively new Humax tellybox recording contraption.
Just catching up with the first episode - Victoria's on fire tonight!
Firstly, she makes a jokey reference to the controversy about the show being switched to Fridays ("I hope we've moved back to Monday: good luck getting your head round that on a Friday night!")
Then later she looks directly at the audience and says "Breaking the 4th wall: what even is that?".
Eugene's Lair posted:Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Tonight sees Only Connect return
This time I shall put it on series link on my relatively new Humax tellybox recording contraption.
Just catching up with the first episode - Victoria's on fire tonight!
Firstly, she makes a jokey reference to the controversy about the show being switched to Fridays ("I hope we've moved back to Monday: good luck getting your head round that on a Friday night!")
Then later she looks directly at the audience and says "Breaking the 4th wall: what even is that?".
Yes, I really like VC, very funny and clever.
I did however get a question right - the one with Sheffield Wednesday (being an OWL helped) as I know the Trip Advisor clue as well.
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Eugene's Lair posted:Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Tonight sees Only Connect return
This time I shall put it on series link on my relatively new Humax tellybox recording contraption.
Just catching up with the first episode - Victoria's on fire tonight!
Firstly, she makes a jokey reference to the controversy about the show being switched to Fridays ("I hope we've moved back to Monday: good luck getting your head round that on a Friday night!")
Then later she looks directly at the audience and says "Breaking the 4th wall: what even is that?".
Yes, I really like VC, very funny and clever.
I did however get a question right - the one with Sheffield Wednesday (being an OWL helped) as I know the Trip Advisor clue as well.
I did particularly well (by my standards) in the "Missing Vowels", but I though the Connecting Walls were real stinkers.
In the "Sequences" round, I got several of the actual sequences, but failed to get exactly correct answers, if you know what I mean (the "Train station" and "Gershwin" questions, for example).
Oh; and I was kicking myself for not getting this one:
Casualty.... I loved Duffy back in the day and thought I'd love her and Charlie to get together. How come I hate her since she's come back and done just that? When did they become so saccharine sweet and twee? They make me heave.
Baz posted:I'm quite enjoying In the Dark ....although I never saw this weeks shocker coming
I caught up with it earlier tonight, and I never saw that one coming either.
