It can be difficult to judge how close someone is solely by their voice, and how was she to know the footsteps (I know Oscar was on his stumps) were not the burglars?
the different acoustics in the small tiled bathroom and the open bedroom which is carpeted Yogi would be significantly different 
oh... I went out onto the balcony, I didn't go out onto the balcony!
A) If he went out onto the balcony he couldn't have heard a noise in the bathroom.
B) If he didn't go out onto the balcony he must have heard and seen Reeva get out of bed to go to the bathroom.
*dons body armour and helmet*
A) How do we know he couldn't hear a noise in the bathroom if he stepped onto the balcony?
B) Didn't he say the fans were on when he brought them in? If they are like the ones hubby has, they can be noisy, and if he had his back to Reeva, he wouldn't have seen her get out of bed.
A) because the bathroom window is on the opposite side, he said a noise from inside the bathroom Yogi,
B) Because he'd just spoken to her, I find it totally improbable that he wouldn't have seen, heard or not spoken in anyway when she got out of bed and he was up. It could have happened that way...but like much else I'm finding a lot of it hard to believe Yogi
A) in that case, it would depend how far out onto the balcony he was. if he was only one step onto the balcony, he could still have heard a noise from the bathroom.
B) Fair enough. I do think it is possible that Reeva could have gone to the bathroom (if he had his back to her), without him realising.
It can be difficult to judge how close someone is solely by their voice, and how was she to know the footsteps (I know Oscar was on his stumps) were not the burglars?
the different acoustics in the small tiled bathroom and the open bedroom which is carpeted Yogi would be significantly different
But if Reeva was shut in a bathroom, scared of an intruder, do you think she would be considering the differing acoustics and taking a chance on when it was safe to shout out?
Much as been made of the fact that he was out on the balcony and that he would not have heard Reeva going to the bathroom, I finding it more and more that this is less plausible if he didn't go out Yogi, and in his affidavit he says he did go out.
Whatever happened, I think its more and more likely that he's fitting the facts to fit the case, but does that make him guilty of knowing Reeva was in the bathroom...I don't know 
what is quite obvious is, he has told lies but makes excuses for them
But if Reeva was shut in a bathroom, scared of an intruder, do you think she would be considering the differing acoustics and taking a chance on when it was safe to shout out?
no, but she would bound to know OP was in close proximity to her Yogi.
But if Reeva was shut in a bathroom, scared of an intruder, do you think she would be considering the differing acoustics and taking a chance on when it was safe to shout out?
no, but she would bound to know OP was in close proximity to her Yogi.
Depends where he was when he last called out.
oh... I went out onto the balcony, I didn't go out onto the balcony!
A) If he went out onto the balcony he couldn't have heard a noise in the bathroom.
B) If he didn't go out onto the balcony he must have heard and seen Reeva get out of bed to go to the bathroom.
*dons body armour and helmet*
A) How do we know he couldn't hear a noise in the bathroom if he stepped onto the balcony?
B) Didn't he say the fans were on when he brought them in? If they are like the ones hubby has, they can be noisy, and if he had his back to Reeva, he wouldn't have seen her get out of bed.
Edit: I went out onto the balcony versus I brought in the fans which were sitting half in the bedroom, half on the balcony - nitpicking Nel.
(Which is what he is paid to do).
he did say that yesterday
But if Reeva was shut in a bathroom, scared of an intruder, do you think she would be considering the differing acoustics and taking a chance on when it was safe to shout out?
no, but she would bound to know OP was in close proximity to her Yogi.
Depends where he was when he last called out.
he said he was behind the wall about a few feet from the loo as far as I remember Yogi, he said he continued to shout down the small corridor didn't he?
But if Reeva was shut in a bathroom, scared of an intruder, do you think she would be considering the differing acoustics and taking a chance on when it was safe to shout out?
no, but she would bound to know OP was in close proximity to her Yogi.
Depends where he was when he last called out.
he said he was behind the wall about a few feet from the loo as far as I remember Yogi, he said he continued to shout down the small corridor didn't he?
yep he did in fact say that
oh... I went out onto the balcony, I didn't go out onto the balcony!
A) If he went out onto the balcony he couldn't have heard a noise in the bathroom.
B) If he didn't go out onto the balcony he must have heard and seen Reeva get out of bed to go to the bathroom.
*dons body armour and helmet*
A) How do we know he couldn't hear a noise in the bathroom if he stepped onto the balcony?
B) Didn't he say the fans were on when he brought them in? If they are like the ones hubby has, they can be noisy, and if he had his back to Reeva, he wouldn't have seen her get out of bed.
Edit: I went out onto the balcony versus I brought in the fans which were sitting half in the bedroom, half on the balcony - nitpicking Nel. (Which is what he is paid to do).
he did say that yesterday
I know he did, but I pit it to yoo that he could have meant the same thing.
seems everyone has made mistakes according to OP
But if Reeva was shut in a bathroom, scared of an intruder, do you think she would be considering the differing acoustics and taking a chance on when it was safe to shout out?
no, but she would bound to know OP was in close proximity to her Yogi.
Depends where he was when he last called out.
he said he was behind the wall about a few feet from the loo as far as I remember Yogi, he said he continued to shout down the small corridor didn't he?
yep he did in fact say that
But did he shout once he entered the actual bathroom?
I know he did, but I pit it to yoo that he could have meant the same thing.
*I pit it tu yu, he is now blaming Roux* 
anyone and everyone
oh... I went out onto the balcony, I didn't go out onto the balcony!
A) If he went out onto the balcony he couldn't have heard a noise in the bathroom.
B) If he didn't go out onto the balcony he must have heard and seen Reeva get out of bed to go to the bathroom.
*dons body armour and helmet*
A) How do we know he couldn't hear a noise in the bathroom if he stepped onto the balcony?
B) Didn't he say the fans were on when he brought them in? If they are like the ones hubby has, they can be noisy, and if he had his back to Reeva, he wouldn't have seen her get out of bed.
Edit: I went out onto the balcony versus I brought in the fans which were sitting half in the bedroom, half on the balcony - nitpicking Nel. (Which is what he is paid to do).
he did say that yesterday
I know he did, but I pit it to yoo that he could have meant the same thing.
stop making so much sense - he's guilty M'lady take the prisoner down 
seems everyone has made mistakes according to OP
Nel has just asked if the error was made by Roux and Oscar said yes.
I know he did, but I pit it to yoo that he could have meant the same thing.
*I pit it tu yu, he is now blaming Roux* anyone and everyone
obfuscation in legal terms
oh... I went out onto the balcony, I didn't go out onto the balcony!
A) If he went out onto the balcony he couldn't have heard a noise in the bathroom.
B) If he didn't go out onto the balcony he must have heard and seen Reeva get out of bed to go to the bathroom.
*dons body armour and helmet*
A) How do we know he couldn't hear a noise in the bathroom if he stepped onto the balcony?
B) Didn't he say the fans were on when he brought them in? If they are like the ones hubby has, they can be noisy, and if he had his back to Reeva, he wouldn't have seen her get out of bed.
Edit: I went out onto the balcony versus I brought in the fans which were sitting half in the bedroom, half on the balcony - nitpicking Nel. (Which is what he is paid to do).
he did say that yesterday
I know he did, but I pit it to yoo that he could have meant the same thing.
stop making so much sense - he's guilty M'lady take the prisoner down
I'm sure he is going down for culpable homicide.
But did he shout once he entered the actual bathroom?
he said he continued to shout down the small corridor which looks to be about 7/8 foot guessing and stops about a metre from the toilet door.. he said he shouted the whole time, but this could change
seems everyone has made mistakes according to OP
Nel has just asked if the error was made by Roux and Oscar said yes.
if this wasn't so serious it would be farcical
I know he did, but I pit it to yoo that he could have meant the same thing.
*I pit it tu yu, he is now blaming Roux* anyone and everyone
I did notice.
But did he shout once he entered the actual bathroom?
he said he continued to shout down the small corridor which looks to be about 7/8 foot guessing and stops about a metre from the toilet door.. he said he shouted the whole time, but this could change
not likely given that OP as a good Christian boy would never tell lies
seems everyone has made mistakes according to OP
Nel has just asked if the error was made by Roux and Oscar said yes.
if this wasn't so serious it would be farcical
yes...
its now tampering, Roux and Dr Stipps fault
seems everyone has made mistakes according to OP
Nel has just asked if the error was made by Roux and Oscar said yes.
if this wasn't so serious it would be farcical
I know.
I can't help feeling that Reeva is forgotten in all the game playing/point scoring between the state and defence.
not likely given that OP as a good Christian boy would never tell lies
*slaps forehead* of course 
But did he shout once he entered the actual bathroom?
he said he continued to shout down the small corridor which looks to be about 7/8 foot guessing and stops about a metre from the toilet door.. he said he shouted the whole time, but this could change
not likely given that OP as a good Christian boy would never tell lies
Cynics!
I know.
I can't help feeling that Reeva is forgotten in all the game playing/point scoring between the state and defence.
I've said this for a while, Roux took it down this route...the character witness building was always going to make it more about OP than Reeva...it must be dealt with and rightly so.
But if Reeva was shut in a bathroom, scared of an intruder, do you think she would be considering the differing acoustics and taking a chance on when it was safe to shout out?
no, but she would bound to know OP was in close proximity to her Yogi.
Depends where he was when he last called out.
Exactly and this is somethnig we can never know
NOR can we ever know what he said
But did he shout once he entered the actual bathroom?
he said he continued to shout down the small corridor which looks to be about 7/8 foot guessing and stops about a metre from the toilet door.. he said he shouted the whole time, but this could change
not likely given that OP as a good Christian boy would never tell lies
Cynics!
it was Pengy 
OP jumping ahead of his prep
its now tampering, Roux and Dr Stipps fault
yes those pesky police officers he noticed while being in a state about just killing his girlfriend, weren't wearing any protective clothing and therefore contaminated the scene - looks like Roux is throwing all and anything at this case - scatterplan shows he can't defend OP - it's CH at the very least and more a question of how much time he will serve at this stage in my eyes OP is damning himself
OP jumping ahead of his prep
yep he's spoiling the plan but doesn't realise with every sentence he is damning himself
its now tampering, Roux and Dr Stipps fault
yes those pesky police officers he noticed while being in a state about just killing his girlfriend, weren't wearing any protective clothing and therefore contaminated the scene - looks like Roux is throwing all and anything at this case - scatterplan shows he can't defend OP - it's CH at the very least and more a question of how much time he will serve at this stage in my eyes OP is damning himself
yes... Roux going every which way he can!
OP jumping ahead of his prep
yep he's spoiling the plan but doesn't realise with every sentence he is damning himself
yes...its as if he is ticking boxes on a list, but getting the numbers mixed up
OP jumping ahead of his prep
yep he's spoiling the plan but doesn't realise with every sentence he is damning himself
yes...its as if he is ticking boxes on a list, but getting the numbers mixed up
let's admit it - we've got him in that prison cell already regardless of what other 'evidence' Roux gives us
I know.
I can't help feeling that Reeva is forgotten in all the game playing/point scoring between the state and defence.
I've said this for a while, Roux took it down this route...the character witness building was always going to make it more about OP than Reeva...it must be dealt with and rightly so.
Nel needs to be careful with his style of questioning. Even judge has pulled him up for it.
OP jumping ahead of his prep
yep he's spoiling the plan but doesn't realise with every sentence he is damning himself
yes...its as if he is ticking boxes on a list, but getting the numbers mixed up
let's admit it - we've got him in that prison cell already regardless of what other 'evidence' Roux gives us
That I can agree on...he should be punished for killing an innocent person
But did he shout once he entered the actual bathroom?
he said he continued to shout down the small corridor which looks to be about 7/8 foot guessing and stops about a metre from the toilet door.. he said he shouted the whole time, but this could change
not likely given that OP as a good Christian boy would never tell lies
Cynics!
it was Pengy
I know.
I can't help feeling that Reeva is forgotten in all the game playing/point scoring between the state and defence.
I've said this for a while, Roux took it down this route...the character witness building was always going to make it more about OP than Reeva...it must be dealt with and rightly so.
Nel needs to be careful with his style of questioning. Even judge has pulled him up for it.
but Roux brought it in, so it must be answered Yogi.
I want to slap Nel.
