As Roger suggests that's the way it goes, and if you visited your local deaf club (just off westgate rd.) you would find that Deaf people communicate in that manner.

Oh give over

No, I agree with other peeps/other peeps agree with me. You're out of order 

I'm allowed to give an opinion and its not out of order just cos others disagree

Perhaps you should visit said Deaf Club and tell them that you have zero tolerance for their over emphasis and put them right in general.

I don't have zero tolerance or I wouldn't work with people with disabilities.

So Joe - you are being offensive

If you find deaf people signing aesthetically displeasing... that's not nice 

 

You put my blood pressure up!!!  I'm off! Give yourself a slap !

 

Not displeasing - your using words I never said

Au contraire! I don't refer to TC or BSL as "gurning"
The only time I was in trouble was when I visited a different Deaf Club and won the Bingo.

But you've just dissed people who use sign language?   

 

If you look/read, Joe's not being offensive. He means put yourself in those people's shoes before you condemn 

 

I'm not condemning

I should point out to St Renton, in case he forgot, I have dealings with Deaf people every day!

I do too - my Dad is deaf

Well you brought the point up and said it was daft....that's as good as.   Really, you dumbfound me 

I'm paraphrasing. Now I know why you're called Saint... you'd need the patience of one, with you sometimes! Ye fecking eejit 

 

Now just shush ya trap! 

 

*I'm off again*

All the more reason for you to have some empathy 

Well surely you know, assuming he is Deaf with a big "D" as opposed to hearing loss, how Deaf Culture works.



(Unless this latter part of the thread is some sort of wind-up)

I have plenty

Well, by what you've said here.....an on other occasions about people with disabilities, I'm not sure you do 

"and on other occasions" ??

Mobility cars/scooters?   Think back to what you posted a  while ago   If you can't...check back on your posts/threads 

I said the carts were dreadful

Not the people who use them - go re-read

But if that is the only thing between independence for someone, then you shouldn't poo poo it 

I will poo poo anything that makes people look silly

And those carts are awful - I was saying surely they don't have to look so bad.

And I posted some slick looking alternatives

I suppose your view is your view, but hey ho.....I wouldn't care what it looked like if it got me around in the same situation

So you agree - I wasn't dissing disabled people then??

Anyway, that concludes today's entertainment for me like. (even if it is Friday)

I'll take 50/50 on that one 

 

Sprout you sausage

I know Joe, I need to go too, otherwise I'll be no use to man nor beast tomorrow....like I am anyway LOL! 

 Night peeps

Moin! XX sorry if you thought we were all ganging up on you St. Renton.

Sometimes people need it.

 

I couldn't believe everyone was surprised tbh  - it's par for the course.

 

My modern day annoyance is internet WUMs

No - there's nothing wrong with passionately held views.

So long as we can all hold them without fear of being silenced

Your remarks verged very close to discrimination Saint, and there is something wrong with that. If someone deaf, or with a deaf child, read your comments they might well feel hurt, embarassed or belittled. They face enough stigma from society as it is.

 

Nifty trick turning yourself into the victim 

 

It's Deaf with a "D" like.

I believe the exaggerated facial expressions used by signers is meant to aid comprehension - mine artists do the same thing. Perhaps it might be a good idea to introduce basic sign language in schools, which would not only encourage more contact between hearing people and Deaf people, but might also stir some empathy and understanding.

Sorry, I haven't replied sooner I've been off, doing real life.

 

So you think it's about breaking down barriers. Can I be honest I think the beauty of disabled people is that they just get on with it, they don't care what they look like. The only time their appearance is a problem is when idiots either let it bother them, or idiots point out that it's bothering them. 

 

Renton, have you ever worked with the Deaf, or even better, expanded your knowledge to learn sign language?

Where's the 'fun' in "Fun sized" anything?

 

All they are is smaller