Eugene's Lair posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Saint posted:So did you all observe the 8pm round of applause for our amazing NHS staff?
Well no, but that was because I didn't know about it until after it was all over.
How did I miss hearing about it in advance????
As a heads-up-up for anyone who didn't already know:
Another one is planned for tonight at 8pm.
It appears to be intended as a weekly thing,
Even more neighbours were applauding tonight 
A police officer was spat at and a second officer was racially abused when officers broke up a house party.
We need a strong message when dealing with imbeciles like this, a straight 10 years in prison.
Story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...live-reporting-story
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
A police officer was spat at and a second officer was racially abused when officers broke up a house party.
We need a strong message when dealing with imbeciles like this, a straight 10 years in prison.
Story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...live-reporting-story
My daughter works in a small supermarket which often has shoplifters, earlier this week when she confronted one he coughed at her, absolute scumbag
*Breaking News*
The Queen is to broadcast to the nation on Sunday evening at 8pm.
Apparently it will be recorded, not live.
No doubt we'll get more details closer to the event...
Ramp it up. Ramping up...yeah sure. The new catchphrase to convince us black is white. Black is black Johnson, Hancock, Gove et all. And all the six figure salaried clueless experts and advisors.
It's all jam the morra when we want jam today. And should have had it yesterday if anyone running this show had a clue what they're doing.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows this is unforgiveable. And deeply tragic. Feck the economy!
The Peter Principle.
Applies to the whole Cabinet, but none moreso than one Matthew Hancock.
jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
machel posted:Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
A police officer was spat at and a second officer was racially abused when officers broke up a house party.
We need a strong message when dealing with imbeciles like this, a straight 10 years in prison.
Story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...live-reporting-story
My daughter works in a small supermarket which often has shoplifters, earlier this week when she confronted one he coughed at her, absolute scumbag
Dreadful Machel. 
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
They say you can still be contagious two weeks after you appear to recover 
Basically they know nothing about it. That two metre rule was and is just too random. It's getting blown out the water now.
velvet donkey posted:Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
They say you can still be contagious two weeks after you appear to recover
So someone's taking us for mugs eh? I suggest this whole shitshow of a government are.....
velvet donkey posted:Basically they know nothing about it. That two metre rule was and is just too random. It's getting blown out the water now.
They have no earthly clue and are making it up as they go along
velvet donkey posted:Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
They say you can still be contagious two weeks after you appear to recover
Please watch the video i posted of the Korean doctor talking about this.
He said we should all be wearing masks when we go out too
SK are so much smarter than us.
It's embarrassing. Clueless R Us.
Not a franchise to be proud of.
I’ve got as much reason to fear this virus as everyone else - compromised immune system; husband with underlying heath condition; two sons and a DiL are key workers; and parents in their 80’s with health conditions.
I know we are in a terrifying situation - this is a new and deadly virus and, as yet, there is no definitive, correct way of dealing with it. Even the most eminent scientists in the field of flu and respiratory disease have given conflicting advice - and the advice will change as more things are learned. We are on a huge learning curve with this virus and mistakes will be made but that doesn’t mean that those in charge aren’t doing what they think is best.
I really hope people won’t use this tragic situation for political point scoring and government bashing - even opposition politicians aren’t doing that - as it would be contemptible, IMO.
velvet donkey posted:After months we are still sailing blindfold into this. Act now, even though it's far too late - that horse has bolted. Open borders with people from all over walking through airports unchecked for starters. No thermometers, hand gel or info. Nothing. No info on self-quarantine for Italians or Iranians. Where's the crowd control as in Europe? If you think the NHS is coping with this dream on.
They know how this is heading. Hancock really struggled this morning - you'd think you were about to pull all his teeth. He's a joke like Johnson and the rest of them. This is life v money/economy and this bunch of shysters are going to choose money. It's frightening, completely inept and criminal.
What part of that do you disagree with Yogi? Posted 1st March.
Our borders are still not closed.
velvet donkey posted:velvet donkey posted:After months we are still sailing blindfold into this. Act now, even though it's far too late - that horse has bolted. Open borders with people from all over walking through airports unchecked for starters. No thermometers, hand gel or info. Nothing. No info on self-quarantine for Italians or Iranians. Where's the crowd control as in Europe? If you think the NHS is coping with this dream on.
They know how this is heading. Hancock really struggled this morning - you'd think you were about to pull all his teeth. He's a joke like Johnson and the rest of them. This is life v money/economy and this bunch of shysters are going to choose money. It's frightening, completely inept and criminal.
What part of that do you disagree with Yogi? Posted 1st March.
Our borders are still not closed.
“The WHO criticized countries that implemented blanket travel bans, and Dr. Mike Ryan, director of the WHO's Health Emergencies Program, said during a Friday press conference that they will do "nothing to protect individual states." “
I, personally, would like to see our borders closed but what do you do when WHO says it will do nothing to protect individual states/countries.
The WHO aren't the be all and end all on this. And they're political - they don't want to tread on toes. That guy Ryan could hardly string a sentence together without umming and awing and plenty emms.
Still......
velvet donkey posted:The WHO aren't the be all and end all on this. And they're political - they don't want to tread on toes. That guy Ryan could hardly string a sentence together without umming and awing and plenty emms.
Still......
The trouble is, who do we believe and what advice do we follow?
Professor Jonathan Van-Tam (one of England’s Depute Chief Medical Officers) “is an internationally recognised flu, vaccine and respiratory expert. During his 25-year career, he has advised the World Health Organization, the UK Government and The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control on influenza and other respiratory virus infections.”
I’m listening to him because I believe he probably knows what he is talking about...as much as any other “expert” does atm.
So much is unknown, we really are in the dark.
Yogi19 posted:velvet donkey posted:The WHO aren't the be all and end all on this. And they're political - they don't want to tread on toes. That guy Ryan could hardly string a sentence together without umming and awing and plenty emms.
Still......
The trouble is, who do we believe and what advice do we follow?
Professor Jonathan Van-Tam (one of England’s Depute Chief Medical Officers) “is an internationally recognised flu, vaccine and respiratory expert. During his 25-year career, he has advised the World Health Organization, the UK Government and The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control on influenza and other respiratory virus infections.”I’m listening to him because I believe he probably knows what he is talking about...as much as any other “expert” does atm.
So much is unknown, we really are in the dark.
That is the bottom line Yogi. It is all unknown and who do you believe. Every expert out there is sticking their beak in and there's a lot of conflicting opinion.
Still, we get to see inside people's houses and how they live now everything is video linked. Always do it with a shelve load of books you haven't read behind to impress
That's what I'm doing with Sky at 11.30.
velvet donkey posted:Yogi19 posted:velvet donkey posted:The WHO aren't the be all and end all on this. And they're political - they don't want to tread on toes. That guy Ryan could hardly string a sentence together without umming and awing and plenty emms.
Still......
The trouble is, who do we believe and what advice do we follow?
Professor Jonathan Van-Tam (one of England’s Depute Chief Medical Officers) “is an internationally recognised flu, vaccine and respiratory expert. During his 25-year career, he has advised the World Health Organization, the UK Government and The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control on influenza and other respiratory virus infections.”I’m listening to him because I believe he probably knows what he is talking about...as much as any other “expert” does atm.
So much is unknown, we really are in the dark.That is the bottom line Yogi. It is all unknown and who do you believe. Every expert out there is sticking their beak in and there's a lot of conflicting opinion.
Still, we get to see inside people's houses and how they live now everything is video linked. Always do it with a shelve load of books you haven't read behind to impress
That's what I'm doing with Sky at 11.30.
BIB - Exactly, Velvet.
lol It was mentioned on BBC Breakfast that a lot of people seem to be filming themselves in front of shelves of books - do you think they are trying to convince us they are well read?
lol I’ll be sure to watch Sky at 11.30
velvet donkey posted:Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
They say you can still be contagious two weeks after you appear to recover
And it's quite likely/possible that there are loads of contagious people walking around who are completely asymptomatic! Of course that is part of the reason for social distancing.
Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
Have you not considered he sought medical advice before returning?
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:velvet donkey posted:Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
They say you can still be contagious two weeks after you appear to recover
And it's quite likely/possible that there are loads of contagious people walking around who are completely asymptomatic! Of course that is part of the reason for social distancing.
Exactly.
Yogi19 posted:lol It was mentioned on BBC Breakfast that a lot of people seem to be filming themselves in front of shelves of books - do you think they are trying to convince us they are well read?
They were taking the Mickey out of that a bit on "Have I Got News For You" last night. The virtual host, Steph McGovern, noticed that guest Helen Lewis had a copy of her own book "Difficult Women" displayed prominently on the bookshelf behind her. 
Paul Merton appeared to be trying to ring the changes by appearing in front of a massive DVD collection ("His car boot sale business is currently on hold.", as Steph quipped ), but in a way he was just rather showing off his own sphere of expertise - silent movies (he half-joked about being a world expert on Mary Pickford...)
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:velvet donkey posted:Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
They say you can still be contagious two weeks after you appear to recover
And it's quite likely/possible that there are loads of contagious people walking around who are completely asymptomatic! Of course that is part of the reason for social distancing.
What's a social distance?
$64000 question
velvet donkey posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:velvet donkey posted:Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
They say you can still be contagious two weeks after you appear to recover
And it's quite likely/possible that there are loads of contagious people walking around who are completely asymptomatic! Of course that is part of the reason for social distancing.
What's a social distance?
$64000 question
Apparently it's slightly longer than a long handled broom. 
Yeah. Believe that and you'll believe anything with the unknown...
I'd like to know where the cases and deaths are. Not national or regional - specific. Or is that a hidden secret.
Wisteria Lane, Whatsitshire, a street with 27 residents has had 10 infections and 3 deaths. Meanwhile, round the corner in Maple Drive, a road with 372 residents, 367 infections have been recorded with 300 deaths. (All made up statistics!!!!)
I think even the bunch in charge would be wary of broadcasting statistics THAT specific!
If you want to know what's going on listen to call ins on the radio.
That's the reality TV news can't cover.
velvet donkey posted:If you want to know what's going on listen to call ins on the radio.
That's the reality TV news can't cover.
Eugene's Lair posted:Yogi19 posted:lol It was mentioned on BBC Breakfast that a lot of people seem to be filming themselves in front of shelves of books - do you think they are trying to convince us they are well read?
They were taking the Mickey out of that a bit on "Have I Got News For You" last night. The virtual host, Steph McGovern, noticed that guest Helen Lewis had a copy of her own book "Difficult Women" displayed prominently on the bookshelf behind her.
Paul Merton appeared to be trying to ring the changes by appearing in front of a massive DVD collection ("His car boot sale business is currently on hold.", as Steph quipped
God, that episode was painful watching. Each contrived laughter detracting from the actual humourous impact of the quip. They tried their best under the circumstances and I suppose you have to give them that, but it was more awkward to watch than laugh at.
Roxan posted:Is it possible to buy hand sanitizers and disinfectant over there? Here the hospitals are having trouble getting hold of basic supplies.
Can’t get hand sanitiser gel, unless you want to pay rip off prices online. I managed to get disinfectant okay.
*Breaking News*
Boris Johnson has been admitted to hospital for tests under medical advice.
He's still showing "persistent" symptoms of coronavirus 10 days after testing positive.
Downing Street are stressing it's not an emergency admission and he remains in charge of the government. It's not clear at the moment if he's staying in hospital overnight, though...
Eugene's Lair posted:*Breaking News*
Boris Johnson has been admitted to hospital for tests under medical advice.
He's still showing "persistent" symptoms of coronavirus 10 days after testing positive.
Downing Street are stressing it's not an emergency admission and he remains in charge of the government. It's not clear at the moment if he's staying in hospital overnight, though...
He looked unwell when we saw him recently.
Yogi19 posted:Eugene's Lair posted:*Breaking News*
Boris Johnson has been admitted to hospital for tests under medical advice.
He's still showing "persistent" symptoms of coronavirus 10 days after testing positive.
Downing Street are stressing it's not an emergency admission and he remains in charge of the government. It's not clear at the moment if he's staying in hospital overnight, though...
He looked unwell when we saw him recently.
Yes: he popped outside the door of No. 10 to join in the applause for the NHS on Thursday, but he looked really rough. 
Eugene's Lair posted:*Breaking News*
Boris Johnson has been admitted to hospital for tests under medical advice.
He's still showing "persistent" symptoms of coronavirus 10 days after testing positive.
Downing Street are stressing it's not an emergency admission and he remains in charge of the government. It's not clear at the moment if he's staying in hospital overnight, though...
Update on the BBC from Laura Kuenssberg:
Johnson will stay in the hospital overnight. He's still leading the government, however Dominic Raab will chair the government coronavirus meeting tomorrow morning.
Eugene's Lair posted:Yogi19 posted:Eugene's Lair posted:*Breaking News*
Boris Johnson has been admitted to hospital for tests under medical advice.
He's still showing "persistent" symptoms of coronavirus 10 days after testing positive.
Downing Street are stressing it's not an emergency admission and he remains in charge of the government. It's not clear at the moment if he's staying in hospital overnight, though...
He looked unwell when we saw him recently.
Yes: he popped outside the door of No. 10 to join in the applause for the NHS on Thursday, but he looked really rough.
He did. I hope he recovers soon.
Yogi I am angry with the government for their handling of this crisis. I'm not political point scoring I'm comparing their strategy with that of South Korea who are the most successful country at dealing with this.They are through it now and for a population of 50 plus million to have a total death toll of 179 is clearly amazing and brilliant.My son is out there and is terrified for the UK as he has seen how slow to react we were, how poor the response has been regarding testing and protecting our frontline staff etc etc I don't want to go into it any more as it's too depressing. They have made a lot of disaterous mistakes.
I hope you and your family stay safe. I am upset and angry because I care
Amythist, my post was a plea - not an accusation - re political point scoring because, sadly, you don’t need to look too hard to find evidence of it.
As we have seen with Sweden, not every country is following the same strategy to deal with Corona virus but, I’m sure they are all doing what they think and hope is right for their country.
I know you care - as do I and I’m having sleepless nights with the worry of it alI.
I hope you and your family stay safe too.
*Breaking News*
Boris Johnson has been moved into intensive care.
He is not on a ventilator, and the line from Downing Street is that it's a precautionary measure in case he has to go onto ventilation. He is still conscious, but his condition has definitely worsened.
Johnson has asked Dominic Raab to deputise "where necessary".
Eugene's Lair posted:*Breaking News*
Boris Johnson has been moved into intensive care.
He is not on a ventilator, and the line from Downing Street is that it's a precautionary measure in case he has to go onto ventilation. He is still conscious, but his condition has definitely worsened.
Johnson has asked Dominic Raab to deputise "where necessary".
Eugene's Lair posted:*Breaking News*
Boris Johnson has been moved into intensive care.
He is not on a ventilator, and the line from Downing Street is that it's a precautionary measure in case he has to go onto ventilation. He is still conscious, but his condition has definitely worsened.
Johnson has asked Dominic Raab to deputise "where necessary".
Eugene's Lair posted:*Breaking News*
Boris Johnson has been moved into intensive care.
He is not on a ventilator, and the line from Downing Street is that it's a precautionary measure in case he has to go onto ventilation. He is still conscious, but his condition has definitely worsened.
Johnson has asked Dominic Raab to deputise "where necessary".
.😟
With a total of 5373 and climbing hindsight might not be 20:20 vision.
Hope you and yours are sticking in machel
You know what. I don't like him, nor his party, nor his principles/politics but I wouldn't wish this on ANYONE!
Trump's doing a presser on CNN just now.
Forget social distancing on that platform.
When my Mum was in Critical Care i asked what was the difference between Critical Care and Intensive Care.
I was told Critical Care patients are expected to make a recovery.
Intensive Care patients are not always expected to make a recovery.
Scary that Boris has gone straight into Intensive Care
Sprout posted:You know what. I don't like him, nor his party, nor his principles/politics but I wouldn't wish this on ANYONE!
Exactly, Sprout.
velvet donkey posted:Trump's doing a presser on CNN just now.
Forget social distancing on that platform.
Although I think his attitude towards the virus has genuinely changed, he still isn't following his own medical advice. 
I can understand Trump not wanting to wear a facemask, but come on: our own government's briefings show that social distancing isn't difficult...
Saint posted:When my Mum was in Critical Care i asked what was the difference between Critical Care and Intensive Care.
I was told Critical Care patients are expected to make a recovery.
Intensive Care patients are not always expected to make a recovery.
Scary that Boris has gone straight into Intensive Care
I think the key is if he is actually put on a ventilator.
The brutal maths of this illness is that the longer you're on one of those, the less likely you are to recover...
machel posted:Listening to Jeremy Vine on tv this morning, he was explaining the measures South Korea had taken when someone was identified as being infectious, I don’t think this would have been possible in the uk nor would people accept them
I didn't hear Jeremy Vine Machel but I'm aware of the information app and what it does. I think it must be enormously comforting to know where infected people have been and when the areas have been disinfected. Obviously the widespread and open armed testing facilities are integral to this. The objections were privacy related as people having affairs were outed and anyone being deceptive about their movements could be identified. I think the majority of people would accept that . I certainly would. No one was named but they were given a number
Eugene's Lair posted:Saint posted:When my Mum was in Critical Care i asked what was the difference between Critical Care and Intensive Care.
I was told Critical Care patients are expected to make a recovery.
Intensive Care patients are not always expected to make a recovery.
Scary that Boris has gone straight into Intensive Care
I think the key is if he is actually put on a ventilator.
The brutal maths of this illness is that the longer you're on one of those, the less likely you are to recover...
velvet donkey posted:With a total of 5373 and climbing hindsight might not be 20:20 vision.
Hope you and yours are sticking in machel
I had an essential visit to the doctors three weeks ago, not been out otherwise, a touch of cabin fever yesterday. Hope you are keeping well ❤️
Saint posted:Did you all "Clap for Boris" ?
I would have done, if I’d known about it.
Saint posted:Did you all "Clap for Boris" ?
For once, it was me who only found out about it after the event.
Can't say I noticed much going on outside in the rest of the street, though...
Saint posted:Did you all "Clap for Boris" ?
no ... don't even get me started. I wish him a speedy recovery and wouldn't wish this on anyone, but that doesn't make me think he deserves any praise for his handling of this. I can think of thousands that deserve a clap in these awful times, he's far less deserving of any applause than my neighbour, postman, or my daughter who goes to work everyday with the wrong masks and spends her day testing suspected cases. Like Amy I am bloody well raging and all this British spirit sh*t goes whoosh over my head...Don't politicalise it, but clap for out hero Boris....no, I bloody well won't.
Mad innit. Over 55,000 confirmed cases, who knows how many un....over 8000 dead in hospital.......how many at home.? How many misleading death certificates.
And applaud the architect?
Same would go for any other party who acted like this. Including Monster Raving Loony. And I think that's what we have.
velvet donkey posted:Mad innit. Over 55,000 confirmed cases, who knows how many un....over 8000 dead in hospital.......how many at home.? How many misleading death certificates.
And applaud the architect?
Same would go for any other party who acted like this. Including Monster Raving Loony. And I think that's what we have.
It’s all very sad Velvet , but I hardly think you can call Boris the architect . I don’t think it’s any worse here than say Italy , or many other countries . This is a totally unprecedented event and all governments are doing what they think is right . Whether they are or not is another question ....but if you really want the architect then I suggest you need to look to the unsavoury , and unsanitary practices in Wuhan markets .
And we're to shop for essentials.
I'd like to see the checkout receipts for those in charge telling us how to live.
Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Mad innit. Over 55,000 confirmed cases, who knows how many un....over 8000 dead in hospital.......how many at home.? How many misleading death certificates.
And applaud the architect?
Same would go for any other party who acted like this. Including Monster Raving Loony. And I think that's what we have.
It’s all very sad Velvet , but I hardly think you can call Boris the architect . I don’t think it’s any worse here than say Italy , or many other countries . This is a totally unprecedented event and all governments are doing what they think is right . Whether they are or not is another question ....but if you really want the architect then I suggest you need to look to the unsavoury , and unsanitary practices in Wuhan markets .
We're an island Baz and we've still got open open borders. They knew what was happening in China, had no pre-emptive contingincies, took no precautions, wasted weeks if not months and looks like they thought this virus was gonna take a left hand turn when it hit the North Sea/English Channel.
Sorry, that's my thoughts
velvet donkey posted:Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Mad innit. Over 55,000 confirmed cases, who knows how many un....over 8000 dead in hospital.......how many at home.? How many misleading death certificates.
And applaud the architect?
Same would go for any other party who acted like this. Including Monster Raving Loony. And I think that's what we have.
It’s all very sad Velvet , but I hardly think you can call Boris the architect . I don’t think it’s any worse here than say Italy , or many other countries . This is a totally unprecedented event and all governments are doing what they think is right . Whether they are or not is another question ....but if you really want the architect then I suggest you need to look to the unsavoury , and unsanitary practices in Wuhan markets .
We're an island Baz and we've still got open open borders. They knew what was happening in China, had no pre-emptive contingincies, took no precautions, wasted weeks if not months and looks like they thought this virus was gonna take a left hand turn when it hit the North Sea/English Channel.
Sorry, that's my thoughts
I was under the impression that the clap for Boris was a form of, “Get Well Soon” and nothing to do with endorsing his policies or politics.
Maybe I misunderstood.
velvet donkey posted:Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Mad innit. Over 55,000 confirmed cases, who knows how many un....over 8000 dead in hospital.......how many at home.? How many misleading death certificates.
And applaud the architect?
Same would go for any other party who acted like this. Including Monster Raving Loony. And I think that's what we have.
It’s all very sad Velvet , but I hardly think you can call Boris the architect . I don’t think it’s any worse here than say Italy , or many other countries . This is a totally unprecedented event and all governments are doing what they think is right . Whether they are or not is another question ....but if you really want the architect then I suggest you need to look to the unsavoury , and unsanitary practices in Wuhan markets .
We're an island Baz and we've still got open open borders. They knew what was happening in China, had no pre-emptive contingincies, took no precautions, wasted weeks if not months and looks like they thought this virus was gonna take a left hand turn when it hit the North Sea/English Channel.
Sorry, that's my thoughts
And you’re entitled to them Velvet .....they just aren’t mine
Sprout posted:velvet donkey posted:Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Mad innit. Over 55,000 confirmed cases, who knows how many un....over 8000 dead in hospital.......how many at home.? How many misleading death certificates.
And applaud the architect?
Same would go for any other party who acted like this. Including Monster Raving Loony. And I think that's what we have.
It’s all very sad Velvet , but I hardly think you can call Boris the architect . I don’t think it’s any worse here than say Italy , or many other countries . This is a totally unprecedented event and all governments are doing what they think is right . Whether they are or not is another question ....but if you really want the architect then I suggest you need to look to the unsavoury , and unsanitary practices in Wuhan markets .
We're an island Baz and we've still got open open borders. They knew what was happening in China, had no pre-emptive contingincies, took no precautions, wasted weeks if not months and looks like they thought this virus was gonna take a left hand turn when it hit the North Sea/English Channel.
Sorry, that's my thoughts
Welcome back
Baz posted:Yogi19 posted:I was under the impression that the clap for Boris was a form of, “Get Well Soon” and nothing to do with endorsing his policies or politics.
Maybe I misunderstood.I don’t think you did Yogi ....I’m sure it was a get well clap ....nothing more
Why single him out then? Is he on a pedestal above other/us mere mortals?
How many are in intensive care or ICU's? How many are dead or dying?
Who's applauding for them? Or cheering them on?
I don't do token gestures.
velvet donkey posted:Why single him out then? Is he on a pedastal above other/us mere mortals?
How many are intensive care or ICU's? How many are dead or dying?
Who's applauding for them?
I don't do token gestures.
Nor do I .....but each to their own .....if this situation is teaching me anything it’s that sweating the small stuff is a total waste of time and energy . Instead of getting our knickers in a twist about things that are outside our control , maybe we should be enjoying life , while we can?
Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Why single him out then? Is he on a pedastal above other/us mere mortals?
How many are intensive care or ICU's? How many are dead or dying?
Who's applauding for them?
I don't do token gestures.
Nor do I .....but each to their own .....if this situation is teaching me anything it’s that sweating the small stuff is a total waste of time and energy . Instead of getting our knickers in a twist about things that are outside our control , maybe we should be enjoying life , while we can?
Baz I am with you 150%..(and before anybody corrects me I was never any good with Maths).........xxx
Syd posted:Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Why single him out then? Is he on a pedastal above other/us mere mortals?
How many are intensive care or ICU's? How many are dead or dying?
Who's applauding for them?
I don't do token gestures.
Nor do I .....but each to their own .....if this situation is teaching me anything it’s that sweating the small stuff is a total waste of time and energy . Instead of getting our knickers in a twist about things that are outside our control , maybe we should be enjoying life , while we can?
Baz I am with you 150%..(and before anybody corrects me I was never any good with Maths).........xxx
Sorry but that tickled me
velvet donkey posted:Why single him out then? Is he on a pedestal above other/us mere mortals?
How many are in intensive care or ICU's? How many are dead or dying?
Who's applauding for them? Or cheering them on?
I don't do token gestures.
My oh said exactly the same!
Syd posted:Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Why single him out then? Is he on a pedastal above other/us mere mortals?
How many are intensive care or ICU's? How many are dead or dying?
Who's applauding for them?
I don't do token gestures.
Nor do I .....but each to their own .....if this situation is teaching me anything it’s that sweating the small stuff is a total waste of time and energy . Instead of getting our knickers in a twist about things that are outside our control , maybe we should be enjoying life , while we can?
Baz I am with you 150%..(and before anybody corrects me I was never any good with Maths).........xxx
I’m all for a bit of 150% Syd
Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Why single him out then? Is he on a pedastal above other/us mere mortals?
How many are intensive care or ICU's? How many are dead or dying?
Who's applauding for them?
I don't do token gestures.
Nor do I .....but each to their own .....if this situation is teaching me anything it’s that sweating the small stuff is a total waste of time and energy . Instead of getting our knickers in a twist about things that are outside our control , maybe we should be enjoying life , while we can?
Totally agree Baz....this thing is above politicking and ire should be directed at the morons not obeying the rules and so prolonging the agony of lockdown for longer
Baz posted:velvet donkey posted:Why single him out then? Is he on a pedastal above other/us mere mortals?
How many are intensive care or ICU's? How many are dead or dying?
Who's applauding for them?
I don't do token gestures.
Nor do I .....but each to their own .....if this situation is teaching me anything it’s that sweating the small stuff is a total waste of time and energy . Instead of getting our knickers in a twist about things that are outside our control , maybe we should be enjoying life , while we can?
You're correct. My knickers were in a twist.
This is small stuff
Me...I'm still like WTF clap for Boris and I'm not getting my knickers in a twist over it, I am getting my knickers in a twist of how it was handled and to me that isn't small stuff. A nurse my daughter works with was confirmed today....thanks for all the masks, gowns, visors and ventilators you had weeks in advance to order and didn't bother doing. It's that kinda of stuff that pisses me off and I'm not going to clap the person in charge...like I said, I wish him a speedy recovery.
I'm not politicising it, I am stating fact........
*Breaking News*
It's just been announced on C4 News that Boris Johnson has been moved out of Intensive Care, and is now in a ward in St. Thomas' Hospital.
Eugene's Lair posted:*Breaking News*
It's just been announced on C4 News that Boris Johnson has been moved out of Intensive Care, and is now in a ward in St. Thomas' Hospital.
Pleased to hear it.....as I would be pleased for anyone in that situation
Eugene's Lair posted:*Breaking News*
It's just been announced on C4 News that Boris Johnson has been moved out of Intensive Care, and is now in a ward in St. Thomas' Hospital.
That’s really good news. His family must be so relieved.
But look at all that clapping! no social distancing there - and most of it outside hospitals and by NHS staff!!!!!!!!!! 
Robert Jenrick.
I'm not buying that excuse of delivering medication.
velvet donkey posted:Robert Jenrick.
I'm not buying that excuse of delivering medication.
He had to drive 40 miles? No other way to get the stuff to his parents?
Most communities and local pharmacies have set up a help system for such things as getting food and medicine to people who can't leave their homes.
TESCO now charging £3 - £7 for delivery when previously it was just £1
Yesterday our neighbour entertained her daughter with lunch in the garden
Today our other neighbour have a group of visitors around and are chatting in their garden
Both are in their 80's with significant health problems and are deliberately flouting the guidance
While i've not left the house in nearly a month
So much want to report them
Saint posted:
Yesterday our neighbour entertained her daughter with lunch in the garden
Today our other neighbour have a group of visitors around and are chatting in their garden
Both are in their 80's with significant health problems and are deliberately flouting the guidance
While i've not left the house in nearly a month
So much want to report them
That’s disgraceful Sainty
Saint posted:TESCO now charging £3 - £7 for delivery when previously it was just £1
our Tesco have always been charging between £2.50 and £6.50. I had thought this was a nationwide thing!
Remember when they mocked Diane Abbott when she was ill for days...I give you Priti evil Babbage .....
Three hundred thousand, thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand tests carried out across UK. Your home secretary Priti Patel
Every day is groundhog day with these briefings Dame. She failed to address the more extreme behaviour of certain forces down South for one. And that behaviour is a worry.
Hancock is just rinse repeat. Staggering we're all watching this very real epic disaster unfold in what seems like slow motion. Clueless. Telling medics how to use their PPE - those that have it. That took the biscuit and is the wrong advice if cross contamination is of any concern. It looks like in Matthew's eyes it's not. And he's got "leading experts" on either side of him when he says it. We are in deep shit.
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Saint posted:TESCO now charging £3 - £7 for delivery when previously it was just £1
our Tesco have always been charging between £2.50 and £6.50. I had thought this was a nationwide thing!
Definitely didn't pay that with our first delivery - i'm sure it was £1
You got me doubting myself now LOL
Saint posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Saint posted:TESCO now charging £3 - £7 for delivery when previously it was just £1
our Tesco have always been charging between £2.50 and £6.50. I had thought this was a nationwide thing!
Definitely didn't pay that with our first delivery - i'm sure it was £1
You got me doubting myself now LOL
It depends on which day and at what time, it also makes a difference if you opt for a one hour slot rather than a four hour slot, charges can be from £1 to £6.50 from my local Tesco
velvet donkey posted:Every day is groundhog day with these briefings Dame. She failed to address the more extreme behaviour of certain forces down South for one. And that behaviour is a worry.
Hancock is just rinse repeat. Staggering we're all watching this very real epic disaster unfold in what seems like slow motion. Clueless. Telling medics how to use their PPE - those that have it. That took the biscuit and is the wrong advice if cross contamination is of any concern. It looks like in Matthew's eyes it's not. And he's got "leading experts" on either side of him when he says it. We are in deep shit.
Velvet, it's totally beyond belief...I really have to be careful what I say because I am so so angry.
Every time they open their mouths it's easily proven lies, just one after the other. I'm sure they think we are all idiots and don't look up these facts, every lie that comes out of their mouth I despise them a little bit more...Never mind, I'll just sing Land of Hope and Glory and all will be fine.... stay safe everyone, that's the best we can do for now.
