Apparently Birmingham has asked for military help with testing 
And Leeds , Blackpool , Stockport and Wigan now under special restrictions 
So Blackpool's no longer exempt - what a surprise!
NOT!!!!
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:So Blackpool's no longer exempt - what a surprise!
NOT!!!!
No 
You would normally think this is unbelievable, not with this government you don't...Also, why are they advertising it has the NHS Covid -19 app when it is not.
There's no way out of this. Morons in denial and morons running the show.
They are absolutely clueless - all of them. I wonder when the Govt. will admit defeat and it's another lockdown. Don't like the word - it's up there with binary and woke.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-...vaccine-by-christmas
Middle on next year, at best, before we're even close to whatever 'normal' might look like
@Baz posted:What a load of morons at that demonstration in London .....what is it they don’t understand about social distancing
Don’t they realise that it’s silly people like them that are fuelling ....if not causing....all the stricter restrictions !
Well; some of them are just plain CovIdiots. However many of them have adgendas - and many of those are rather worrying... 
Quick quiz:
The photo below was taken at a previous anti-lockdown demo at Trafalgar Square back in August. Whose flag is being displayed here?
@Eugene's Lair posted:Well; some of them are just plain CovIdiots. However many of them have adgendas - and many of those are rather worrying...
Quick quiz:
The photo below was taken at a previous anti-lockdown demo at Trafalgar Square back in August. Whose flag is being displayed here?
Is it the National Front Eugene ? 
They're going to hell........and they're dragging the rest of us with them! 
Protesters dump horse sh*t on Serco’s doorstep
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@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Protesters dump horse sh*t on Serco’s doorstep
@Baz posted:@Eugene's Lair posted:
Quick quiz:
The photo below was taken at a previous anti-lockdown demo at Trafalgar Square back in August. Whose flag is being displayed here?
Is it the National Front Eugene ?
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
they turned up at Dover the week after same guy
Nope: not the National Front, although you're on the *ahem* right lines...
That, folks, is the party flag of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists.
Just let that sink in for a moment: people at a Trafalgar Square protest supposedly against the curtailing of person freedoms were brandishing a flag that Mosley's blackshirts waved while marching down Cable Street 84 years ago...
The former director-general of the charity Age Concern Baroness Greengross has said the elderly prefer death to spending Xmas alone.
'What do we do about elderly people who long to see their family at Christmas and it looks as if they'll not be able to? That's absolutely awful,' she told The Times.
'I think I would make an announcement just before Christmas that relaxed some of the rules, because most older people with families would prioritise seeing them, I think, over staying alive.'
This sort of sensational statement is not helpful - how does she know? Where is here evidence?
I agree Saint. How stupid is that? Christmas is just another day, as such. So she's saying that people would rather be dead and NEVER see their relatives again (and deprive themselves of, potentially. several more years of life), than have to spend an arbitrary day without seeing them!!!!!
I'm not going to pretend it's easy, going for months on end without seeing folks (I'm having to do it myself), but there are ways to lessen the upheaval this is causing us ALL. Does she think it's not affecting the rest of society?
@Eugene's Lair posted:Nope: not the National Front, although you're on the *ahem* right lines...
That, folks, is the party flag of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists.
Just let that sink in for a moment: people at a Trafalgar Square protest supposedly against the curtailing of person freedoms were brandishing a flag that Mosley's blackshirts waved while marching down Cable Street 84 years ago...
Good grief Eugene
@Saint posted:The former director-general of the charity Age Concern Baroness Greengross has said the elderly prefer death to spending Xmas alone.
'What do we do about elderly people who long to see their family at Christmas and it looks as if they'll not be able to? That's absolutely awful,' she told The Times.
'I think I would make an announcement just before Christmas that relaxed some of the rules, because most older people with families would prioritise seeing them, I think, over staying alive.'
This sort of sensational statement is not helpful - how does she know? Where is here evidence?
Exactly Renton .....it certainly doesn’t apply to this old person ! 
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:I agree Saint. How stupid is that? Christmas is just another day, as such. So she's saying that people would rather be dead and NEVER see their relatives again (and deprive themselves of, potentially. several more years of life), than have to spend an arbitrary day without seeing them!!!!!
I'm not going to pretend it's easy, going for months on end without seeing folks (I'm having to do it myself), but there are ways to lessen the upheaval this is causing us ALL. Does she think it's not affecting the rest of society?
Spot on EFFT 
No, it’s not easy , but in the grand scheme of things it’s just one day .....and there are always other ways of feeling involved ....even if it’s only a phone call
@Eugene's Lair posted:Nope: not the National Front, although you're on the *ahem* right lines...
That, folks, is the party flag of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists.
Just let that sink in for a moment: people at a Trafalgar Square protest supposedly against the curtailing of person freedoms were brandishing a flag that Mosley's blackshirts waved while marching down Cable Street 84 years ago...
I know what flag it is Eugene, also in attendance were the NF, EDL and BNP along with flat earthers and climate change deniers at the rally.. I don't see how people didn't see this coming, I have been warning about the rise of fascism for years.
I understand her point - older people may want to "risk it" than be alone at Xmas.
Wonder what she thinks has been happening for the last 6 months?
Loneliness is terrible but i think there are more seniors wishing to survive til it's all over especially in the elderly where the "Make do and mend" attitude is surely higher than in any other age group.
It's the selfish lack of co-operation that annoys me the most.
Revellers, holiday makers and people complaining they've had to cancel their weddings
Erm ... 40,000 good people have died - people who should still be here.
Two people in our street have entertained visitors today - how dare they not co-operate
Panorama tonight, BBC. All about test, track, and trace.
Channel 4 News. showing how the election in the USA result was probably wrong. He targeted black people so their vote wouldn't be counted.
So when Blair deregulated licencing hours one of the reasons they argued was that it would stop people piling out of pubs at 10 pm, having crammed in their boozing before the final bell. Streaming out of pubs, steaming drunk and wanting to carry on their revelries, and kicking off in fast-food restaurants and taxi queues. It's even worse now as the nightclubs are all shut.
If there's a stupid thing to do, this government will do it.
Capitalist Tories caught between health or wealth make the decision to deny family members meeting in their gardens but leaves beer gardens open where you can mingle at will 
The incoherence is getting truly scary now. They, themselves, don't know what they're doing.
Yes, this lot are scary the way they are carrying on
@velvet donkey posted:The incoherence is getting truly scary now. They, themselves, don't know what they're doing.
Yes, this lot are scary the way they are carrying on
Very true Velvet ....
More buffoonery from Boris, 'I misspoke'....... Just underlines their lack of credibility!!!!!!!
A post from someone on Twitter......something to make us all think about eh?
The UK is checking off the items on this list pretty efficiently
@Carnelian posted:So when Blair deregulated licencing hours one of the reasons they argued was that it would stop people piling out of pubs at 10 pm, having crammed in their boozing before the final bell. Streaming out of pubs, steaming drunk and wanting to carry on their revelries, and kicking off in fast-food restaurants and taxi queues. It's even worse now as the nightclubs are all shut.
If there's a stupid thing to do, this government will do it.
Seriously, you could not make this up. Of all the people to get spotted!
These people never learn.
PM's father Stanley Johnson pictured in shop without face covering
The prime minister's father, Stanley Johnson, has been pictured shopping without a face covering, breaking current Covid-19 restrictions.
Mr Johnson - a former Tory MEP - has apologised, claiming he may not be "100% up to speed" with current rules after returning from abroad.
Fines for not wearing a covering in a shop were raised by the government last week to £200 for first time offenders.
Former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has also apologised for breaking the rules.
He was pictured at a dinner party which appeared to have nine guests, going against the government's "rule of six".
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Seriously, you could not make this up. Of all the people to get spotted!
These people never learn.
PM's father Stanley Johnson pictured in shop without face covering
The prime minister's father, Stanley Johnson, has been pictured shopping without a face covering, breaking current Covid-19 restrictions.
Mr Johnson - a former Tory MEP - has apologised, claiming he may not be "100% up to speed" with current rules after returning from abroad.
Fines for not wearing a covering in a shop were raised by the government last week to £200 for first time offenders.
Former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has also apologised for breaking the rules.
He was pictured at a dinner party which appeared to have nine guests, going against the government's "rule of six".
I saw that too EC ....like you say , both are unbelievable ! ....you couldn’t make this s...t up !
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Seriously, you could not make this up. Of all the people to get spotted!
These people never learn.
PM's father Stanley Johnson pictured in shop without face covering
Corbyn apologised immediately and said he should have left when more than six turned up. He's paid a fine and rightly so. What kind of person invites more than six and takes a picture and sends it to the scum newspaper. No excuses though, he broke the law and was fined👍
Stanley Johnson isn't keen on precautions, I wish he was and used had them wisely in 1963 👊
Looking at how the EU are scolding Britain over Brexit - it makes me wonder how much bungling has occurred behind the scenes with Covid.
Worryingly Boris really does seem like he's out of his depth
It makes you want to cry, it really does, when you hear of yet more politicians, or public figures, contravening the rules/breaking the law.
Looks like it'll be the back garden only, for the next 6 months or more!
@Baz posted:Just when you think it can’t get any worse , along comes an snp mp going home on a train after a positive result
It would have been bad enough if she had been driving back (to test her eyesight of course ), but to take public transport?....words fail me!
@Baz posted:Just when you think it can’t get any worse , along comes an snp mp going home on a train after a positive result
Yep - she tested positive - used public transport
It's the selfishness of so many people and now we have the Mayor of Middlesboro saying people in the area should defy Gov recommendation.
Disgraceful
@Saint posted:Yep - she tested positive - used public transport
It's the selfishness of so many people and now we have the Mayor of Middlesboro saying people in the area should defy Gov recommendation.
Disgraceful
Yes, although he’s backed down a bit now and said people shouldn’t break the law....but even so .......
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Looks like it'll be the back garden only, for the next 6 months or more!
Same here EFFT
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@Dame_Ann_Average posted:heads up
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Thanks Dame
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:heads up
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And what have you been up to?
@Saint posted:And what have you been up to?
I didn't know I had to pay taxes on immoral earnings did I I have no idea why I put this in here I copied and pasted it from elsewhere, it happened to someone else.
Lazy selfish Britain that's the problem we have
It's not about the recommendations - it's about our co-operation
Oh God that is so close to the mark of what actually was said! I've got tears running down my face from laughing.
And I know first hand as I was actually watching it live, today,
@velvet donkey posted:
Velvet
I love Janey Godley, I've followed her for a couple of years on FB and now twitter
Stolen, but it made me laugh......when will the Trumps know when they have lost their sense of taste
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:Stolen, but it made me laugh......when will the Trumps know when they have lost their sense of taste
It's late, and it took me a moment to get that, but .
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:Stolen, but it made me laugh......when will the Trumps know when they have lost their sense of taste
Nice one
I have no opinions on Trump at this stage.
New day new dollar. All you can do is watch - as with everything.
It's nearing crazy though.
According to the Whithouse Trump's doctors and medical team have been 'misspeaking' about his Covid situation. Does anyone believe that?
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:According to the Whithouse Trump's doctors and medical team have been 'misspeaking' about his Covid situation. Does anyone believe that?
Who knows Fluffers.....last I heard on news was that he has been given 'a cocktail of experimental drugs'
It's weird. I wouldn't want to see anyone die.
Fecked up is DS. They all want to be there.
@Kaytee posted:Who knows Fluffers.....last I heard on news was that he has been given 'a cocktail of experimental drugs'
Ooooh! I hadn't heard that.
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Ooooh! I hadn't heard that.
@Kaytee posted:@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:According to the Whithouse Trump's doctors and medical team have been 'misspeaking' about his Covid situation. Does anyone believe that?
Who knows Fluffers.....last I heard on news was that he has been given 'a cocktail of experimental drugs'
They were talking about the "experimental" treatment last night: the general opinion from the start was that it wasn't a good sign...
The whole "misspeaking" issue seems to come down to the hospital staff implying that Trump's been ill for a day longer than the White House claim, and the WH are trying to clamp down on that. I initially assumed the WH were covering their backs for legal reasons (the longer period could mean Trump was already symptomatic when he attended a fundraiser midweek), but it's now looking as if his state of health was more worrying than has so far been implied...
Fake news from the Trump camp
Where do we go from here?
@Saint posted:Fake news from the Trump camp
Hardly a surprise though, is it?
One of those who appears to have got infected at the now-notorious Rose Garden "super-spreader" event last weekend is Kellyanne Conway - Trump's former campaign manager and the originator of the term "alternative facts".
It has been claimed that Kellyanne only went public over testing positive after her daughter Claudia tweeted that her Mum had lied to her about the test result...
@Eugene's Lair posted:They were talking about the "experimental" treatment last night: the general opinion from the start was that it wasn't a good sign...
The whole "misspeaking" issue seems to come down to the hospital staff implying that Trump's been ill for a day longer than the White House claim, and the WH are trying to clamp down on that. I initially assumed the WH were covering their backs for legal reasons (the longer period could mean Trump was already symptomatic when he attended a fundraiser midweek), but it's now looking as if his state of health was more worrying than has so far been implied...
They are all nailing that now
I follow it but am I interested? Not when you say care home.
Detached.
Robert Peston
There will be another big leap in the daily tally of covid19 infections tonight, because the government's data people have found yet another stash of positive tests since 24 September that hadn't been included in official figures. What is unclear is whether..
Replying to
the new data fundamentally changes the perception of how fast infected numbers have been rising and prevalence of the virus in the community. And presumably we will learn why so many of these positive tests vanished temporarily and weren't included in published data.
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Robert Peston
There will be another big leap in the daily tally of covid19 infections tonight, because the government's data people have found yet another stash of positive tests since 24 September that hadn't been included in official figures. What is unclear is whether..Replying tothe new data fundamentally changes the perception of how fast infected numbers have been rising and prevalence of the virus in the community. And presumably we will learn why so many of these positive tests vanished temporarily and weren't included in published data.
With over 700 in Northumbria Uni alone......gawd knows how many there are all round
@velvet donkey posted:You're strong Dame. Feck the idiots
i'm fine Velvet, just so angry at the incompetence
@Kaytee posted:With over 700 in Northumbria Uni alone......gawd knows how many there are all round
The figures are still not out yet, well at least not on the BBC yet Kaytee
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:Stolen, but it made me laugh......when will the Trumps know when they have lost their sense of taste
@Dame_Ann_Average Did Donald Fart take his hairstyle from the lion per chance ???
22961 new cases past 24hrs (average=9716)
68010 new cases last 7 days 2428 Patients in hospital (NOT UPDATED IN 3 DAYS
) 368 Patients in ventilator beds 49 Deaths past 24hr R =1.5-1.7 approx What the hell is happening?
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
22961 new cases past 24hrs (average=9716)
68010 new cases last 7 days 2428 Patients in hospital (NOT UPDATED IN 3 DAYS
) 368 Patients in ventilator beds 49 Deaths past 24hr R =1.5-1.7 approx What the hell is happening?
That’s what happens when moronic people can’t be bothered to follow the rules
@velvet donkey posted:We're fecked.
Ain’t that the truth Velvet
Right now I'd take Ascension or St Helena machel.
Keep on top of the supplies
@machel posted:Why no lockdown in the south? Didn’t London have the highest r rate?
Stopped watching the news, cannot believe most of it, just keeping safe x
London is the baby.
I've often seen people who have nuclear bunkers or hide outs stocked with food and essentials in preparation for survival after a catastrophe . . . and scoffed at them.
Not now
@Saint posted:I've often seen people who have nuclear bunkers or hide outs stocked with food and essentials in preparation for survival after a catastrophe . . . and scoffed at them.
Not now
You should see the garage my friend.
Keep on top of it
@Saint posted:I've often seen people who have nuclear bunkers or hide outs stocked with food and essentials in preparation for survival after a catastrophe . . . and scoffed at them.
Not now
I know what you mean Renton ......and the book of Revelations is starting to look less OTT by the minute !
@velvet donkey posted:You should see the garage my friend.
Keep on top of it
Mine is stashed in the study Velvet
@machel posted:Why no lockdown in the south? Didn’t London have the highest r rate?
Stopped watching the news, cannot believe most of it, just keeping safe x
I think my area ....the North West ....is now the worst in the country Machel Mind you , like EFFT , the furthest I’m going is the back garden ! I hope you are staying safe too
12 billion for this bright idea
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
130 new cases in Lanarkshire.
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:130 new cases in Lanarkshire.
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:130 new cases in Lanarkshire.
You just need to look out the window Fluffs.
I don't think clusterfeck covers it Dame
We are watching in slow motion. Every day.
@velvet donkey posted:I don't think clusterfeck covers it Dame
We are watching in slow motion. Every day.
the incompetence is utterly depressing Velvet stay safe
Went to GP to get prescription i've now discovered i didn't need 
Afterwards felt terrible - gurgling tummy, headache, sudden sore throat - Mum started feeling the same.
Panicked - went for COVID test after 3 days .
Test centre was quite busy with about 15 cars there (Sunday at 11am)
Test results back within 12hours - negative (thank God)
So sick of this ruddy virus - living in fear all the time
@Saint posted:Went to GP to get prescription i've now discovered i didn't need
Afterwards felt terrible - gurgling tummy, headache, sudden sore throat - Mum started feeling the same.
Panicked - went for COVID test after 3 days .
Test centre was quite busy with about 15 cars there (Sunday at 11am)
Test results back within 12hours - negative (thank God)
So sick of this ruddy virus - living in fear all the time
Oh heck Renton .....I can totally understand your fear , but glad it turned out to be a false alarm It’s one hell of a scary time we are living through