@machel posted:

How are children to be collected from school?  At my granddaughters school all parents stand in the playground but there isn’t enough room to social distance, it is a narrow road with no car park ( the staff have to park on the road) it will be a nightmare next Thursday

I got tested yesterday 

It's been almost 2 weeks since I ventured out for the first time in five months to get a haircut

And the very first time i've had any close contact with anyone except my Mum.

Since then i've been scaring myself by reading all the COVID info I could find.

This virus is a lot more variable than i thought . . . 

The typical incubation period from infection to exhibiting symptoms is 5 days

By 11.5 days 97% of infected people will display symptoms

The remainder will display no symptoms but are still infectious

From the time you display symptoms you should isolate for 14 days - this is the typical duration for the virus to remain in your body ... unless you continue to display symptoms.

And those symptoms can vary  - a lot

Typically:

Loss/change in smell/taste

High temp

A new persistent cough   >>>>>   ME 

But there are a whole range of other symptoms that can indicate you may have the virus as it affects people differently.

Fever or chills

Sore throat  >>>>   ME 

Runny nose             ME (occasionally)

Headaches  >>>     ME (occasionally)

Difficulty breathing

Chest pains/heaviness  ME (occasionally)

Aches and pains throughout your body

I was starting to wonder if it was all in my head ... except the sore throat  - that was definitely there and I was continually trying to stifle the desire to have a good cough.

Add to that my Mum developed a new cough so i panicked and booked a test!!!

The web site was shockingly straight forward and basically took my word for it that i was telling the truth and not a crazy hypochondriac (which I was by this stage) 

"We are experiencing high demand etc etc . . . .  please use the site wisely (or somethnig - i skimmed that bit)

Except that they had every 30min slot available on Sunday 30th 8am - noon - I took 11am

Allow 30 mins for your test

Turned up early to a sight straight out of a Hollywood movie set - quite surreal and bizarre - except for the guy sitting on a plastic chair wearing a hi-viz jacket and yawning widely. He lazily pointed me "over there"

Seven tented bays via a one way system and many portacabins staffed by lots of young people pointing me this way and that.

After checking i'm me and not a loon was told, "Bay seven" - Why? All the bays were empty - the whole site was empty.

Just me and them and COVID19

"Do you want to test yourself or we can test you?" "Erm ... well what's the best thing to do?"

"We can do it more accurately" - well why give me the choice ? So they did it.

Cotton bud right to the tonsils and then the SAME bud up me snout (quite far) for 15 seconds.

Done!! Goodbye - results in 24hrs - could be 48 but call that number if it's 72

Results came back by 8.30am this morning (Monday) = NEGATIVE  

I nearly 

@Saint posted:

I got tested yesterday 

 

It's been almost 2 weeks since I ventured out for the first time in five months to get a haircut

And the very first time i've had any close contact with anyone except my Mum.

Since then i've been scaring myself by reading all the COVID info I could find.

 

This virus is a lot more variable than i thought . . . 

 

The typical incubation period from infection to exhibiting symptoms is 5 days

By 11.5 days 97% of infected people will display symptoms

The remainder will display no symptoms but are still infectious

From the time you display symptoms you should isolate for 14 days - this is the typical duration for the virus to remain in your body ... unless you continue to display symptoms.

 

And those symptoms can vary  - a lot

Typically:

Loss/change in smell/taste

High temp

A new persistent cough   >>>>>   ME 

 

But there are a whole range of other symptoms that can indicate you may have the virus as it affects people differently.

Fever or chills

Sore throat  >>>>   ME 

Runny nose             ME (occasionally)

Headaches  >>>     ME (occasionally)

Difficulty breathing

Chest pains/heaviness  ME (occasionally)

Aches and pains throughout your body

 

I was starting to wonder if it was all in my head ... except the sore throat  - that was definitely there and I was continually trying to stifle the desire to have a good cough.

Add to that my Mum developed a new cough so i panicked and booked a test!!!

 

The web site was shockingly straight forward and basically took my word for it that i was telling the truth and not a crazy hypochondriac (which I was by this stage) 

"We are experiencing high demand etc etc . . . .  please use the site wisely (or somethnig - i skimmed that bit)

Except that they had every 30min slot available on Sunday 30th 8am - noon - I took 11am

Allow 30 mins for your test

Turned up early to a sight straight out of a Hollywood movie set - quite surreal and bizarre - except for the guy sitting on a plastic chair wearing a hi-viz jacket and yawning widely. He lazily pointed me "over there"

Seven tented bays via a one way system and many portacabins staffed by lots of young people pointing me this way and that.

After checking i'm me and not a loon was told, "Bay seven" - Why? All the bays were empty - the whole site was empty.

Just me and them and COVID19

"Do you want to test yourself or we can test you?" "Erm ... well what's the best thing to do?"

"We can do it more accurately" - well why give me the choice ? So they did it.

Cotton bud right to the tonsils and then the SAME bud up me snout (quite far) for 15 seconds.

Done!! Goodbye - results in 24hrs - could be 48 but call that number if it's 72

 

Results came back by 8.30am this morning (Monday) = NEGATIVE  

 

I nearly 

 

I have stopped googling symptoms, I became panicky with every cough, sneeze, runny nose, aches, fatigue, headache, nausea and having to eat something to check if I have lost sense of taste .........(okay so the last one wasn’t strictly necessary!)

Holidaymakers will face "chaos and hardship" if coronavirus quarantine measures are reintroduced for those arriving to the UK from Portugal, a travel industry leader has warned.

Portugal has recorded 21.1 virus cases per 100,000 people in the past week.

The UK considers imposing 14 days of isolation on travellers when a country's infection rate exceeds 20 cases per 100,000, over seven days.

The boss of British Airways' parent firm said the numbers were "arbitrary".

It was only on 22 August that Portugal was added to the list of countries that are exempt from UK rules requiring travellers to self-isolate for two weeks, prompting a rise in searches for flights by British holidaymakers.

Writing in the Times, IAG chief executive Willie Walsh said the "ever-changing" quarantine requirements meant "the UK has officially hung up the 'closed' sign".

"Another U-turn by the government, adding Portugal to the quarantine list, will cause further chaos and hardship for travellers," he said.

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So effectively he's saying that our infection policy should be based on NOT upsetting the holiday maker and travel industry and that the nation;s health can come a poor second to that!

I mean, what's another few hundred/thousand deaths against cousin Joe and family having an enjoyable un-interrupted FOREIGN holiday?

Awwww Renton I am glad you got a negative test , and I totally understand your fear . I had a friend pop round at the weekend ....and even though we socially distanced ...and sat in the back garden , I was still worried.  But then it dawned on me that for the first 4 weeks after I came out of hospital .....at the height of the pandemic .....I had people coming in to look after me at least once a day ! And while caution is a good thing ....I’m starting to think the fear of the darn disease is almost as crippling 

@machel posted:

I have stopped googling symptoms, I became panicky with every cough, sneeze, runny nose, aches, fatigue, headache, nausea and having to eat something to check if I have lost sense of taste .........(okay so the last one wasn’t strictly necessary!)

Ditto Machel .....and I think I’m going to stop reading the news about it again too .....it scares me too much 

@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Holidaymakers will face "chaos and hardship" if coronavirus quarantine measures are reintroduced for those arriving to the UK from Portugal, a travel industry leader has warned.

Portugal has recorded 21.1 virus cases per 100,000 people in the past week.

The UK considers imposing 14 days of isolation on travellers when a country's infection rate exceeds 20 cases per 100,000, over seven days.

The boss of British Airways' parent firm said the numbers were "arbitrary".

It was only on 22 August that Portugal was added to the list of countries that are exempt from UK rules requiring travellers to self-isolate for two weeks, prompting a rise in searches for flights by British holidaymakers.

Writing in the Times, IAG chief executive Willie Walsh said the "ever-changing" quarantine requirements meant "the UK has officially hung up the 'closed' sign".

"Another U-turn by the government, adding Portugal to the quarantine list, will cause further chaos and hardship for travellers," he said.

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So effectively he's saying that our infection policy should be based on NOT upsetting the holiday maker and travel industry and that the nation;s health can come a poor second to that!

 

I mean, what's another few hundred/thousand deaths against cousin Joe and family having an enjoyable un-interrupted FOREIGN holiday?

Exactly EFFT ......I can’t believe that people can’t go without a foreign holiday for one year ! As I saw in a news headline ....Covidiots! 

Nice layout there!

@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Nice layout there!

Yes , but they still look quite close together 

@Baz posted:

Yes , but they still look quite close together 

They do, but the idea behind it has merit.

Parts of Scotland back in *no visiting * lockdown 

There was a 300+ guest party at some pile in Midlothian.

Rules/suggestions/laws - what are they?

Non existant. Carry on Covid starring Syd James and Hattie Jacques.

I mean Piers Corbyn is a complete and utter eejit. But can you prosecute him fairly after the BLM protests?

Maybe you can but everything is on the hoof.

'Jumped the gun'

Speaking on the BBC's Today programme, Mr Shapps said: "On Wednesday the Scots - without using the joint bio-security centre data for this particular decision - decided that people from Greece would be excluded, and jumped the gun on that.

"It is their right to do it but it doesn't make the overall message any clearer."

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If it is Scotland's (or any other country's) RIGHT to do something, how can they have 'jumped the gun'?

And how is it not clear?

All the fuss about secondary schools being unable to social distance and the wearing of masks or not.....today the lower end of the age range having been released in a graduated way.......left the school gates behind and banded together in large crowds with not a mask in sight.....was always going to happen 

Lanarkshire (my area) heading for lockdown, apparently.

@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Lanarkshire (my area) heading for lockdown, apparently.

Oh heck , not your area too 

@Former Member posted:

Cliff notes version:

Felt crap. Got tested. Negative.

Glad you are ok Renton :mask:

Hope all is ok over there Roxan 

3 Schools in Glasgow and 1 in Paisley now showing Covid-19 infections. We're all going downhill because people no longer have any measure of self-control! People talk disparagingly of 'The Nanny State', but it's becoming more and more obvious that that is what is required because, left to our own devices, the population (in general) have no understanding or ability to behave properly!

@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

3 Schools in Glasgow and 1 in Paisley now showing Covid-19 infections. We're all going downhill because people no longer have any measure of self-control! People talk disparagingly of 'The Nanny State', but it's becoming more and more obvious that that is what is required because, left to our own devices, the population (in general) have no understanding or ability to behave properly!

I totally agree EFFT . Bolton has also imposed stricter measures now ....no socialising/ visiting  inside or outside , except in your own bubble .. ..People are so stupid ......or at least some are .....and at this rate the whole country will be in a national lockdown ....and then watch people moan 

@Baz posted:

I totally agree EFFT . Bolton has also imposed stricter measures now ....no socialising/ visiting  inside or outside , except in your own bubble .. ..People are so stupid ......or at least some are .....and at this rate the whole country will be in a national lockdown ....and then watch people moan 

Hope you've got your ear-plugs at the ready!

Tell me when we're in lockdown Fluffs   

I don't wanna hear it on STV.

STV. You could put an industrial drill through that.

@velvet donkey posted:

Tell me when we're in lockdown Fluffs   

 

I don't wanna hear it on STV.

Still just 'very close' at the moment! 

Stay safe

Today's virus cases are horrendous and I can't see lockdown being staved off for much longer!

I'm starting to wonder of "Eat out to help out" is code for "Herd immunity initiative" 

@Saint posted:

I'm starting to wonder of "Eat out to help out" is code for "Herd immunity initiative" 

That’s a good point Sainty 

@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Hope you've got your ear-plugs at the ready!

Yes 

@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Today's virus cases are horrendous and I can't see lockdown being staved off for much longer!

I know ....they seem to be rising all over 

@Former Member posted:

Probably better I don’t answer that. Didn’t think things could get more insane. Keep lowering my expectations but lower HE sinks. Totally sick of the response here.

Trying to be thankful for little things and have the sneaking suspicion I am driving myself insane...  

Hope you are ok. How is the foot? 

Awwwww I think we all feel the same Roxan ....I think I’m going totally round the twist ! Ankle is still painful ....especially in the evening....but hopefully it’s going in the right direction 

Figures are really climbing again now 

215 UK Schools now CV19+and nearly 6000 new cases in 24 hours.....I have no words

What is partly to blame, on both sides of the border, is this insistence of only going for a test if you're showing symptoms. A-symptomatic people are known about, but nothing much seems to be getting done about the potential spread from them.

@Saint posted:

I'm starting to wonder of "Eat out to help out" is code for "Herd immunity initiative" 

Hmmm...

TBH, though; I still subscribe to the "cock-up before conspiracy" school of thought.

I suspect they just assumed that the infection rates in August would be much lower than they were in reality.

Also: the original plan was for cinemas and other entertainment venues to be open by then, with "Tenet" committed to a July release date despite initial delays. "Eat out to help out" would therefore have attracted customers to multiple markets: enjoy a cheap meal and a movie afterwards. In the end though, it seems the film distributers were (correctly) more cautious, and they delayed Tenet for a further month...

I see a new National lockdown across the whole of the UK in the next month 

@Baz posted:

I see a new National lockdown across the whole of the UK in the next month 

Followed by panic buying in the supermarkets 😢

@machel posted:

Followed by panic buying in the supermarkets 😢

Yes.....tbh I’m stocking up already Machel .....not stockpiling , just making sure I’ve got things like loo rolls 

@Baz posted:

Yes.....tbh I’m stocking up already Machel .....not stockpiling , just making sure I’ve got things like loo rolls 

There'll be a futures market on them when Brexit hits home. Impending doom but let's not talk about that    

Easy Jet's turn to moan today:-

*Sob sob* All this constant change in quarantine lists is causing confusion and frustration for passengers AND US! Not as many people as expected are booking flights with us, *Sob sob*

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I'm sorry to say, but this is because (IMO) a large proportion of people need these things rammed home, before the penny drops. When the PTB said these travel rules/quarantine lists could change at any moment - THEY MEANT IT!!!!

It's taken a while , but it looks like (some) people are finally realizing that foreign travel may not be worth it - in the present circumstances.

I agree with you all the way Fluffs. If you want a holiday sit out in the back garden and feed the birds. The level of stupidity is off the scale. All for a sun tan and whack job postcards    

And do I care about airlines? Tough cheddar.

@velvet donkey posted:

And do I care about airlines? Tough cheddar.

@velvet donkey posted:

I agree with you all the way Fluffs. If you want a holiday sit out in the back garden and feed the birds. The level of stupidity is off the scale. All for a sun tan and whack job postcards    

I couldn’t agree more EFFT and Velvet .....totally selfish imo ....and a mirror of the society we now live in !