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Baz posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Baz posted:

Fascism , communism,  two sides of the same coin 

Communism is dead in Russia...the rise of fascism in Europe is far more worrying. We see nazi salutes on out streets now...I'm like wtf

Iā€™d like to think it was dead .....but any sort of fanaticism scares the hell out of me ....whatever the colour ...

Far right and far left....both very dangerous to those they decide to target....and then there's pure racism as in Serbia over Kosovo...all extremes are worrying

Kaytee
Kaytee posted:
Baz posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Baz posted:

Fascism , communism,  two sides of the same coin 

Communism is dead in Russia...the rise of fascism in Europe is far more worrying. We see nazi salutes on out streets now...I'm like wtf

Iā€™d like to think it was dead .....but any sort of fanaticism scares the hell out of me ....whatever the colour ...

Far right and far left....both very dangerous to those they decide to target....and then there's pure racism as in Serbia over Kosovo...all extremes are worrying

I agree Kaytee  It only needs one charismatic leader to plug into the discontent and itā€™s a recipe for disaster 

Baz
Kaytee posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Kaytee posted:

It was spine chilling, just the thought of being locked away for years

I bet it was 

More a tourist thing these days, loads of people tramping around, loses the atmosphere when there's a hundred Japanese tourists with cameras snapping away and chattering loudly 

I can imagine 

Sprout
Kaytee posted:

More a tourist thing these days, loads of people tramping around, loses the atmosphere when there's a hundred Japanese tourists with cameras snapping away and chattering loudly 

yes, it's a shame...you can't be alone with your thoughts and imagine how it was for them with loads of tourists yapping in every direction 

Dame_Ann_Average
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Kaytee posted:

More a tourist thing these days, loads of people tramping around, loses the atmosphere when there's a hundred Japanese tourists with cameras snapping away and chattering loudly 

yes, it's a shame...you can't be alone with your thoughts and imagine how it was for them with loads of tourists yapping in every direction 

Not been for yonks, but we were staying on the same canal and walked past the house several times last spring, even out of season it was crowded

Kaytee
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Kaytee posted:

Not been for yonks, but we were staying on the same canal and walked past the house several times last spring, even out of season it was crowded

I can well imagine, the more people have been educated about the Frank family the more the tourists want to visit 

Trouble is....they allow too many in at a time

Kaytee
Kaytee posted:

I don't think I could have betrayed them, but on the other hand I don't know what I would have done if my family was broke and needed to buy food

 

I know difficult situations may make you do something you would never dream of doing, I would like to think I wouldn't have done it Kaytee ...I don't think I could have lived with myself 

Dame_Ann_Average
Kaytee posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:

one bloody traitor ruined their lives when they were nearly free 

I don't think I could have betrayed them, but on the other hand I don't know what I would have done if my family was broke and needed to buy food

No.....Iā€™d like to think I would have been above it , but you never know how you will react until you are it that position 

Baz
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Kaytee posted:

I don't think I could have betrayed them, but on the other hand I don't know what I would have done if my family was broke and needed to buy food

 

I know difficult situations may make you do something you would never dream of doing, I would like to think I wouldn't have done it Kaytee ...I don't think I could have lived with myself 

That's the dilemma...your children or someone else's , nobody knows what they'd do if push came to shove

Kaytee
Baz posted:
Kaytee posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:

one bloody traitor ruined their lives when they were nearly free 

I don't think I could have betrayed them, but on the other hand I don't know what I would have done if my family was broke and needed to buy food

No.....Iā€™d like to think I would have been above it , but you never know how you will react until you are it that position 

Exactly

Kaytee
Kaytee posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Kaytee posted:

I don't think I could have betrayed them, but on the other hand I don't know what I would have done if my family was broke and needed to buy food

 

I know difficult situations may make you do something you would never dream of doing, I would like to think I wouldn't have done it Kaytee ...I don't think I could have lived with myself 

That's the dilemma...your children or someone else's , nobody knows what they'd do if push came to shove

Baz

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