run up to the election - first debate tonight
Cameron and Miliband live
9.00 - 10.30pm Channel 4 
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Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
I'll watch MrsH
If you're watching MrsH, then I will watch you. 
Let's hope Ed trounces the lying Bullingdon coward. In a head to head he would.
Tuning in MrsH
They`re not debating, separate Q&A sessions. They wont even be on camera together. 
After the last disaster, I'm feeling apathetic about the election. We got a government that wasn't actually elected.
Is it live or recorded earlier?
Originally Posted by Cinds:
After the last disaster, I'm feeling apathetic about the election. We got a government that wasn't actually elected.
So this is our chance to change that 
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Is it live or recorded earlier?
It was recorded live earlier.
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Is it live or recorded earlier?
It was recorded live earlier.
FFS! Stop banging on about how many in work!
It's his one cry 
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Is it live or recorded earlier?
It was recorded live earlier.
It says live, but it has the feeling of a pre-recorded event.
Zero hours contracts are a disgrace
Is this just interviews not head to head?
Slip up there....anything constitutes a job
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Is this just interviews not head to head?
Yup, no head to head
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Is this just interviews not head to head?
Seems to be, I thought it was like the last one
Checks weren't good enough obviously
He doesn`t know about HSBC
Pull the other one Dave
Oh dear ... this isn't going well for Dave
Your plan is a load (in my opinion)
Stoppit with the jobs will ya! tell us how many you've put out of work!
Can you tell I hate him (and his ilk) 
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Can you tell I hate him (and his ilk)
It's hard to be fond of any of them though
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Can you tell I hate him (and his ilk)
It's hard to be fond of any of them though
Yes, I'm not saying the others are much better, but I really do detest him
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Paxo is stuffing him.
Difficult decisions that effected the poor.
I wonder if they are keeping Millibland in a soundproof room while Cameron is being interviewed?
I think he knows and isn't telling....is there an election maybe?
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Paxo is stuffing him.
Boom tish
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Difficult decisions that effected the poor.
And mostly the poor, cos he doesn't realise...we're all in this together 
I wonder if Paxman has political leanings?
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
I wonder if they are keeping Millibland in a soundproof room while Cameron is being interviewed?
Good point ... If he can see/hear this he will be wetting himself with fear for his turn
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Libya was a fiasco.
Most of it is
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
I wonder if Paxman has political leanings?
He`s a Tory.
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
I wonder if Paxman has political leanings?
Gives you that impression
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
I wonder if they are keeping Millibland in a soundproof room while Cameron is being interviewed?
Good point ... If he can see/hear this he will be wetting himself with fear for his turn
As long as they're both grilled the same.....
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
I wonder if Paxman has political leanings?
He`s a Tory.
Is he? He does not seem to be pulling punches in the questions. Maybe let's see how he treats Eddie.
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
I wonder if they are keeping Millibland in a soundproof room while Cameron is being interviewed?
Good point ... If he can see/hear this he will be wetting himself with fear for his turn
I would be.
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
I wonder if they are keeping Millibland in a soundproof room while Cameron is being interviewed?
Good point ... If he can see/hear this he will be wetting himself with fear for his turn
I would be.
Me too, I'd be feigning a headache and I would be out of there sharpish!
At least Ed might get a chance to put his point over without the other side screaming at him as in PMQ's
Free TV license until the license fee is scrapped and the BBC have to raise revenue in other ways.
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Free TV license until the license fee is scrapped and the BBC have to raise revenue in other ways.
I wonder what other ways those could be?
I'm bored now ... wheel out Ed
"Sky News App", I did not need to know that or have the evil empire Sky thrust down my throat with their free advertising on a joint TV programme.
He`s getting an easy time of it.
He deffo knows what cuts he's gonna make....
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
"Sky News App", I did not need to know that or have the evil empire Sky thrust down my throat with their free advertising on a joint TV programme.
Yeah, it's on that channel too
Not Kay's finest moment ... shut him up and let people ask him more questions
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
He`s getting an easy time of it.
I'm never invited
Dave, there are other people who work in the police force other than officers. Don't forget also that some forces are taking on many non paid specials.
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
He`s getting an easy time of it.
I'm never invited
Real world Davey! A high up policeman has just told you it's collapsing!
No comment. Why not?!
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Dave, there are other people who work in the police force other than officers. Don't forget also that some forces are taking on many non paid specials.
Who probably have to be trained a bit more than they are....
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Real world Davey! A high up policeman has just told you it's collapsing!
To add in a little bit of knowledge, there is still a lot of wasted money, I do know this from experience. I wish I could provide examples but I can't on a public forum.
#thebattlefornumber10 is a scream! It's a good job I can't work out how to copy and paste tweets here or else I would have posted one about Kay Burley which would probably have got me banned 
Getting disabled people into work he says. The Tories closed or sold off all Remploy factories.
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Real world Davey! A high up policeman has just told you it's collapsing!
To add in a little bit of knowledge, there is still a lot of wasted money, I do know this from experience. I wish I could provide examples but I can't on a public forum.
I can imagine
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Getting disabled people into work he says. The Tories closed or sold off all Remploy factories.
Hence my comment before about how many he's put out of work
Originally Posted by Rexi:
#thebattlefornumber10 is a scream! It's a good job I can't work out how to copy and paste tweets here or else I would have posted one about Kay Burley which would probably have got me banned
ÂĢ780m contracts to private healthcare companies.
Tell us about that Dave.
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Getting disabled people into work he says. The Tories closed or sold off all Remploy factories.
Hence my comment before about how many he's put out of work
Why do we not have an independent organisation who could verify all of the statistics that politicians give out.
It seems crazy to me that in this day and age we can't provide stats for a whole host of important issues.
Originally Posted by Scotty:
ÂĢ780m contracts to private healthcare companies.
Tell us about that Dave.
I'd like him to
Kay has gone for the spray on dress tonight!
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Getting disabled people into work he says. The Tories closed or sold off all Remploy factories.
Hence my comment before about how many he's put out of work
I used to work for a private training organisation...doing CV's and putting people on training and getting them into work....I'm now redundant...ironic eh?
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Why do we not have an independent organisation who could verify all of the statistics that politicians give out.
It seems crazy to me that in this day and age we can't provide stats for a whole host of important issues.
Yes, that's an idea. I guess he's only got his minister's figures to go on, and we all know figures can be manipulated
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
ÂĢ780m contracts to private healthcare companies.
Tell us about that Dave.
I'd like him to
Me too. He`s not called Dodgy Dave for nothing.
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Getting disabled people into work he says. The Tories closed or sold off all Remploy factories.
Hence my comment before about how many he's put out of work
I used to work for a private training organisation...doing CV's and putting people on training and getting them into work....I'm now redundant...ironic eh?
It makes me sick
Only ever a five year contract but we weren't allowed to rebid
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Getting disabled people into work he says. The Tories closed or sold off all Remploy factories.
Hence my comment before about how many he's put out of work
I used to work for a private training organisation...doing CV's and putting people on training and getting them into work....I'm now redundant...ironic eh?
Terrible. Hope you find something soon Sprouty. 
ÂĢ150k people should be ok to 'get by'
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Why do we not have an independent organisation who could verify all of the statistics that politicians give out.
It seems crazy to me that in this day and age we can't provide stats for a whole host of important issues.
Yes, that's an idea. I guess he's only got his minister's figures to go on, and we all know figures can be manipulated
I may make all politicians less likely to twist figures if they were presented with facts. Tonight we have been presented with lots of them.
When I have more money in my pocket I am paying off my mortgage quicker rather than spend it in other ways, so Ed you better hope that not everyone is like me or the revenue will not come in.
I've always said I wanted us to be in the EU but with more say
Woah!
I do prefer David M to Ed M.
Ed getting a tougher time. Hand picked audience?
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Ed getting a tougher time. Hand picked audience?
It seems so, he's holding his own though...he doesn't seem to be collapsing
What has this got to do with politics? Too personal.
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Ed getting a tougher time. Hand picked audience?
It seems so, he's holding his own though...he doesn't seem to be collapsing
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Ed getting a tougher time. Hand picked audience?
Do you think so? I just think he's coming over bettert
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Ed getting a tougher time. Hand picked audience?
I don't think so. They seem pretty even to me. Although it's starting to feel like a Labour party promo from Ed.
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Ed getting a tougher time. Hand picked audience?
Do you tink so? I just think he's coming over better
I refer you to my previous post
A lot of what I'm hearing from these two are the same old same old. Heard it before and more than likely I will hear it again in coming years.
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Ed getting a tougher time. Hand picked audience?
I don't think so. They seem pretty even to me. Although it's starting to feel like a Labour party promo from Ed.
I did think it was odd that Paxman didn't grill him too, I guess
Cameron got some incredibly soft questions. What sort of question was "what do you think of Ed Miliband?" Then Burley has the brass neck to say, "never mind about the Tories".
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Ed getting a tougher time. Hand picked audience?
I don't think so. They seem pretty even to me. Although it's starting to feel like a Labour party promo from Ed.
I did think it was odd that Paxman didn't grill him too, I guess
Are we not getting that?
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
A lot of what I'm hearing from these two are the same old same old. Heard it before and more than likely I will hear it again in coming years.
It was/is ever thus.....nothing's ever gonna change in that respect
Haha! He was obviously told to bring the sandwich up!
Well metaphorically
A round of applause when he compliments Dave.
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Haha! He was obviously told to bring the sandwich up!
Well metaphorically
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Ed getting a tougher time. Hand picked audience?
I don't think so. They seem pretty even to me. Although it's starting to feel like a Labour party promo from Ed.
I did think it was odd that Paxman didn't grill him too, I guess
I expect Paxman will grill him later
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
A lot of what I'm hearing from these two are the same old same old. Heard it before and more than likely I will hear it again in coming years.
It was/is ever thus.....nothing's ever gonna change in that respect
Yes unfortunately, I suspect whoever gets in we will be having a similar debate 5 years down the line.
Originally Posted by Scotty:
A round of applause when he compliments Dave.
Hand picked?
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
Cameron got some incredibly soft questions. What sort of question was "what do you think of Ed Miliband?" Then Burley has the brass neck to say, "never mind about the Tories".
Bias abounds.
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
A round of applause when he compliments Dave.
Hand picked?
Definitely
Backinamo
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
A round of applause when he compliments Dave.
Hand picked?
Definitely
Oh, I just got that.
I'm still waiting for the colonel kojak slaphead the third interview. That's where my votes going.
Sounding a bit like Velvet there!
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
I'm still waiting for the colonel kojak slaphead the third interview. That's where my votes going.
Sounding a bit like Velvet there!
C'mon Ed answer the question...
Ed's floundering ...
My wages have fallen.
This is making Scotty's post look right about Paxman being a Tory
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
My wages have fallen.
So have mine
Originally Posted by Sprout:
This is making Scotty's post look right about Paxman being a Tory
He does seem a bit harder on Ed.
Let me explain ...
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
My wages have fallen.
So have mine
Sorry Sprout.
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Let me explain ...
Go on then.
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
My wages have fallen.
So have mine
Sorry Sprout.
LOL! Tis ok
From what I have heard from Ed, it would seem that if he is in power then I will still be under a squeeze for the foreseeable future.
Originally Posted by Sprout:
This is making Scotty's post look right about Paxman being a Tory
Noooo, paxman went into Dave like a rotweiller, he was soft on Ed at first ...
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
From what I have heard from Ed, it would seem that if he is in power then I will still be under a squeeze for the foreseeable future.
Oh yes, they've said there's still gonna be cuts.....it comes down to who's will be the fairest
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
This is making Scotty's post look right about Paxman being a Tory
Noooo, paxman went into Dave like a rotweiller, he was soft on Ed at first ...
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
From what I have heard from Ed, it would seem that if he is in power then I will still be under a squeeze for the foreseeable future.
Oh yes, they've said there's still gonna be cuts.....it comes down to who's will be the fairest
Having had 5 years of wage deflation I'm not convinced any of them will be good (or better) for me. I am close to the point of looking for something else where I can get see my income at least keeping up with inflation, although at 0% it currently is
LOL! Scotty!
Oh no, they are laughing at him
Personal yet again!
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
From what I have heard from Ed, it would seem that if he is in power then I will still be under a squeeze for the foreseeable future.
Oh yes, they've said there's still gonna be cuts.....it comes down to who's will be the fairest
Having had 5 years of wage deflation I'm not convinced any of them will be good (or better) for me. I am close to the point of looking for something else where I can get see my income at least keeping up with inflation, although at 0% it currently is
It's the same for me. I said in another thread that I'm not gonna vote for the so called 'big parties'
There is one certainty in politics, it makes you go prematurely grey.
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Personal yet again!
Personal Paxy, even though you did say it like that
North London geek!
This is outrageous.
We are getting into Alan Partridge territory here.
I have to say, Ed was glaring at Paxman.
And then he justifies it by saying that!!
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
I have to say, Ed was glaring at Paxman.
I wish we could have heard the exchange as they went to the adverts.
'Are you okay Ed?'
I think that was supposed to be off mike
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
I have to say, Ed was glaring at Paxman.
I wish we could have heard the exchange as they went to the adverts.
Paxy asked Ed if he was alright
Originally Posted by Rexi:
'Are you okay Ed?'
I think that was supposed to be off mike
Yeah well, it just shows...you should be careful what you say and what you do in life
Question time's gonna be interesting tonight......if it's live too
Winner on that one anyone?
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Winner on that one anyone?
dunno ... it's just left me a bit flat
Paxo being slated on twitter for getting personal.
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Paxo being slated on twitter for getting personal.
Good!
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Question time's gonna be interesting tonight......if it's live too
Watching
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Question time's gonna be interesting tonight......if it's live too
Watching
Me too
Creepy Jim on QT. Help ma boab!
LOL Scotty! There ya go with your Oor Wullie again
Originally Posted by Sprout:
LOL Scotty! There ya go with your Oor Wullie again
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Creepy Jim on QT. Help ma boab!
He's sittin on two Barrs crates.
Well said JSP!
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Creepy Jim on QT. Help ma boab!
He's sittin on two Barrs crates.
Well said that woman!
Labour always said there would be cuts under them....it's down to fairness
Nicky Morgan (Conservative Education Secretary)
Jim Murphy (Leader Of Scottish Labour)
Leanne Wood (Leader Of Plaid Cymru)
Steven Woolfe (UKIP Immigration Spokesman)
Janet Street-Porter (Broadcaster & Guardian Columnist)
Good point Jim
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Good point Jim
He`s a hypocrite. He voted for ÂĢ30b austerity cuts in January.
The PM doesn't care!
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Good point Jim
He`s a hypocrite. He voted for ÂĢ30b austerity cuts in January.
Like I said...there's gonna be cuts any which way you look at it. It's down to who can make it fair
#bbcqt Murphy the food bank man eh, you voted for austerity cuts. Hypocrite me thinks
I guess I agree with Woolfe there...that's not to say I agree with all their thinking
Ed came over stronger and got the most hostility. He handled it well and was humble and honest in his answers.
Well said that man!
When Cameron says "he makes the tough decisions" it's funny how those so-called tough decisions hit the poorest hardest and hardly touch voter groups who generally vote Tory.
Nicky! a lot of people who leave school are unemployable...they can't read or write
I know through my job I had 
Employment agencies....don't get me started! 
It's totally acceptable to sack him.....he punched someone (allegedly) it's a sacking offence in the real world!
Character and Charisma?
Is it a loss? The BBC won't be paying him mega bucks any more
Kaye Burley delivered the goods for her paymaster, Uncle Rupert. Someone as biased to the agenda of big money as that should never have been allowed to referee the debate.
Read the comments on the Daily Mail (of all places) and many think Miliband came over better as a more honest and decent candidate for PM.
I am interested in watching all of these political shows this year because tbh I don't usually vote as they all come across as bad as each other. I want somebody to inspire me to get off my arse and want to vote for them. I want them to tell me what THEY will do for the country, (and for me), not what the other parties are doing wrong.
I watched (most) of the show last night, although I did nod off for a short period when Cameron bored me 
What I did see, I thought Miliband came across better and I am surprised to hear on morning TV that the polls show Cameron as winning the night.
Paxman was a knob, Burley was a knob - they were far too personal with Miliband, surely there are more things to worry about with the current state of affairs than his family relationships
Let's hope the future debates, in particular the head-to-head debates are more inspiring.
Kay Burley 'bias' against Ed Miliband prompts 130 complaints to Ofcom
http://www.independent.co.uk/a...-ofcom-10138774.html
Bumps just in case anyone wants to comment
Bog off Cameron! You haven't been working with the British people!
I wouldn't respect him whatever he does. I loathe him and his policies
that's not to say I like anyone else's any more better though.
Again, harking back to the past
Originally Posted by Baz:
We are all in the MC thread Sprout
I know, I wanted to watch this
Soz, I should've let someone/the thread know
to Bazzybumps 
Yes, it's deteriorating again 
Ed Miliband never actually said he'd scrap the evil bedroom tax.
Originally Posted by moonie:
Well I have women's live footie on the telly and rock music on the radio. I know my priorities
You'd need rock music playing to make the woman's football watchable.
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Ed Miliband never actually said he'd scrap the evil bedroom tax.
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Baz:
We are all in the MC thread Sprout
I know, I wanted to watch this
Soz, I should've let someone/the thread know
No. You shouldn't It's not compulsory
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Well I have women's live footie on the telly and rock music on the radio. I know my priorities
You'd need rock music playing to make the woman's football watchable.
Some of it's actually better than the men's They're on a par
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Well I have women's live footie on the telly and rock music on the radio. I know my priorities
You'd need rock music playing to make the woman's football watchable.
Some of it's actually better than the men's
Your listening to Vixen then?...oh you mean the football. 
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Ed Miliband never actually said he'd scrap the evil bedroom tax.
They never "actually say" they will do anything Vids, that's the trouble
That's why I don't trust em. The main 3 party's are a bunch of crooks.
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Well I have women's live footie on the telly and rock music on the radio. I know my priorities
You'd need rock music playing to make the woman's football watchable.
Some of it's actually better than the men's
Your listening to Vixen then?...oh you mean the football.
Har de har
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Well I have women's live footie on the telly and rock music on the radio. I know my priorities
You'd need rock music playing to make the woman's football watchable.
Some of it's actually better than the men's
Your listening to Vixen then?...oh you mean the football.
*passes Vids body armour*
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Ed Miliband never actually said he'd scrap the evil bedroom tax.
They never "actually say" they will do anything Vids, that's the trouble
That's why I don't trust em. The main 3 party's are a bunch of crooks.
Yes, but that doesn't stop you voting for one of the others. Do you vote?
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Ed Miliband never actually said he'd scrap the evil bedroom tax.
They never "actually say" they will do anything Vids, that's the trouble
That's why I don't trust em. The main 3 party's are a bunch of crooks.
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Ed Miliband never actually said he'd scrap the evil bedroom tax.
They never "actually say" they will do anything Vids, that's the trouble
That's why I don't trust em. The main 3 party's are a bunch of crooks.
Yes, but that doesn't stop you voting for one of the others. Do you vote?
Yep, I vote...for my sins.
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Ed Miliband never actually said he'd scrap the evil bedroom tax.
They never "actually say" they will do anything Vids, that's the trouble
That's why I don't trust em. The main 3 party's are a bunch of crooks.
Yes, but that doesn't stop you voting for one of the others. Do you vote?
Yep, I vote...for my sins.
Ah right, at least you use it
Natalie Bennett talking crap as usual.
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI.
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Ed Miliband never actually said he'd scrap the evil bedroom tax.
They never "actually say" they will do anything Vids, that's the trouble
That's why I don't trust em. The main 3 party's are a bunch of crooks.
Yes, but that doesn't stop you voting for one of the others. Do you vote?
Yep, I vote...for my sins.
Ah right, at least you use it
But at what cost to my dignity...that's what I keep asking myself.
It's like voting to be conned every 5 years.