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Davids got his monks outfit on ready for nominations but Sunshine is now wearing it  the smokers are thinking of having a quick cig before nominations


Nathan is getting the lunch ready *not sure what they are having*


Ben thinks he and Sunshine are not in the cool group, but they do have a war hero, a David beckham lookalike and a monk
Aimee
Aimee over on DS they have a Live Feed techie thread. .think somebody said how to save the feed on there

Great work btw..

I am trying to do Nom Cam. .ie when somebody is nominating the camera tends to hover on the people they are nominating..

I forgot to do Ben's but am pretty sure  Caoimhe voted Dave and Sunshine..


Shabby is now trying to see if she can guess who Caoimhe nomm'd .. she followed her to the BR  ..Caoimhe didn't give anything away. .unless they have a code..


[wonders why i can spell Caoimhe's name fine but have trouble with Racheal's? ]

Corin in now...

BB not keeping them in there very long this year
Mount Olympus *Olly*
We now have Oniongate

Ben got told off for taking some onions from one of the many pots of food put on the table.

apparently they weren't for all.. yet Ben missed out on other stuff that people had already finished before he got to serve himself.. so took from what was left.


He says he hates that he has to eat the set meals all the time when sometimes he may just fancy egg on toast . he really appreciates Nathan's efforts to feed everyone tho

this is always a difficult one. .make sure everybody gets 3 meals a day or let hem graze as and when and take whatever they want so nothing nice is left after the first day..

John, Dave Govan, Josie and Ben are sat on the Sofa's talking about this..

Ben suggests that maybe they all agree on one planned daily meal and then agree to choose and ration their other meals from what supplies they have left that aren't for the main meal..

anyway Dave has pulled Govan up for being disrespectful to him at the table for picking on Dave for also taking Onions when they knew they were for someone else.. 

I never heard or saw the event but Govan is speaking really fast which is what he does when he is backtracking and changing the truth of something to show him in a better light than he actually was meaning when he first spoke..

Govan insists he wasn't disrespecting Dave he just said how come some have Onions as Dave helped himself to some ot knowing it had already been said they weren't for all.  Dave was insulted..Govan is not accepting that he insulted Dave. .but apologises anyway but tells Dave he is making it something it is't on purpose..

Worra stupid argument

SLAPS  Govan  very hard . .shurrup

Ben explains to more people that have come in to watch

 says it all started cos he had helped himself to some onions not knowing they weren't for all (think some of the others didn't like what was in the other bowls so Nathan did onions for them)  Nathan told Ben they were meant for others.. Dave had been talking to someone else in the kitchen and didn't hear Nathan say the Onions were for a few people not all so when he sat down he had some too. .

Govan picked up on this and then said what he said bout how come 'Dave; got onions after Ben was told not to take them.. which then offended  Dave who had no idea he was doing anything wrong and felt Govan was accusing him unfairly..

Govan is annoyed that Dave pulled him up and the fact Govan had made Dave feel bad when like Ben it was an accident not done on purpose..  [gotta watch his image you know he isn't a bully or a bitch or owt ]

oh the joy of BB and the silly spats..  BB says go talk to someone if you ahve a problem with them. .in this house just make sure it ain;t Govan


anyway seems to be calming down as Govan has left the Sofa area.

the remaining boy's agree it had been brewing for a while anyway with Govan and Dave..

they are talking about perhaps people not jumping in if a argument is brewing as it an make it worse..

John says we have to be aware of the food situation etc.. and let people with problems sort it out and no others butt in..

John now sights the Mole day problem with Sunshine and tells Ben to maybe not get involved so much. .if thins get that bad and the two peopel can;t resolve something they should go to BB to talk it out with them. .comfort a bit but sitting by someone all the time can make a situation worse nd divide them all further

Too late John

John will comfort someone if they are upset and on their own but he ont get invovled in an argument if it doesn' t involve him..

Dave  saying he could see Sunshine's side..  and Govan blew up at him for making it worse at the time.. and and and and and..

Now Govan comes in and tells Dave why he was annoyed with him for seeming to understand Govan writing the Mole name then jumping to Sunshine's side later..

Dave says I am just saying I could understand why she was upset..

gawd the Drama 

posting then going back to do typo's   [think Iav got em all]
Mount Olympus *Olly*
Well we are bak to Mollgate.. Oniongate is forgott

Dave and Goran hae i out..

goan tells Dave that Dve made Molegate worse.. . cos he said he could understand where sunshine was coming fromin her thinkingabout it..

{Dave mate wise up Govan means it made it worse forhim not Sunshine ]

Govan says  why can you not understnd but others can! !and how canyou tell me you know what I was thinking..

Shot of the girls n the bathroom

they hope Govan is coming and walking away but he isn't he is going off even more.

He shouts at Dave that the reasons Dave gave for understanding why she was upset at  Govan , basically that he believed Govan actually wanted Sunshine out. .[which we all know is why he really did it anyway}  Govan is incensed that Dave may have also put this theory to sunshine therby making the problems between Govan and sushine worse..

woooooooooohooooooo  Noms over tis 'gets the fights started and say what has has been bugging you for days' DAY..

Dave is upset because he felt he wa trying to comforting so0emone ho was upset..

John says there is a difference between comforting and getting involved

Dave says I didn't think that is what I was doing but if you think that I did that then I apologise but my intentions were to truly comfort as that is my nature.. 

Meanwhile in the bathroom the girls re discussing what the HL show will do for the nomination reactions..

They agree the current argument is about stuff that had been brewing and nowt to do with Onions..
Mount Olympus *Olly*
There`s a ding dong going on. I`ll try my best to explain it...
They were having a meal and there were some onions laid l aside for tonight`s curry. Ben thought they were part of today`s meal and took some. Govan piped up that they were for tonight. Meanwhile, Dave`s chatting to Corin in the kitchen and didn`t hear the onion saga. He then took some onions.  Govan jumped at him and accused him of taking the onions  knowing they were for tonight. Dave defended himself, saying he didn`t know and that Govan should apologise. (No chance of that) So the argument has carried on into the livingroom with Govan not allowing anyone to speak. He`s babbling on at a rate of noughts  defending what he said and not listening to Dave or Ben, who`s trying to be the peacemaker. Nathan comes into the picture but doesn`t get a chance to speak either. Govan then says he`s going out for a ciggie but parted with..if it wasn`t for you Dave..the situation with Sunshine wouldn`t have escalated. (nothing to do with the original argument)
When he left Ben said..well the onions  are the catalyst for what he really wants to say...the Sunshine thing. In comes JJ who says that the argument is between two people so everyone should stay out of it. Ben says he`s wasn`t involving himself he was trying to explain what happened..he felt it was right to defend Dave. JJ`s not having it. (for someone who doesn`t want to get involved he`s going on and on) Back comes Govan..and he`s OFF! Sunshine Sunshine Sunshine...blaming Dave and the argument goes on. 
Some of the girls are in the bathroom saying this is not about onions  Govan has other issues with Dave and he`s venting them. 
Back to the livingroom and Govan is still babbling...
Now JJ is saying to Dave he shouldn`t have got involved in the Sunshine debacle. (contradicting himself again about not getting involved...he`s in the thick of it.) 

Govan`s now starting to raise his voice.  Dave doesn`t know what he`s being blamed for. Govan`s not having it. The mole argument continues without a mention of onions.
Scotty
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Reference: Gel
good luck with the 'mole' discussion/debate that's now going on! I can't keep up with motor mouth govan
it's pretty bonkers isn't it?

govan in a patronising manner is say to Dave. .you made it worse by telling her what I had explained to everyone..

Dave I only repeated what you already said to her  which was you thought she was the Mole and voted her out.

Govan says forget that bit that is between me and Sunshine..  I'm  talking about you making it worse by interfering

Dave again says how can I make it worse.  you  told her you thought she was the Mole and voted for her.. end of..

Basically Dave s being told off for comforting somebody who was upset and in Govan's eyes making it worse.

(for him tho and his image.. not for Sunshine  -opinion-)

Dave says how can I have made it worse I was just comforting somebody that was upset.. he is looking very perplexed..

Govan says you made me feel a right sh...

he says you said I had got myself into trouble and was tying to get myself out of it when I was not [you sooooooooooo were you iccle liar] 

around this Ben and JJ try to interject some sense but give up..

Basically Govan is upset at Dave for what he feels is him badmouthing him [by repeating only what Govan himself had said, ]  and making others think badly of him [me me me me me ]

GovanGate

again posting and then going back to edit typo's done I think
Mount Olympus *Olly*
waves to Gel and Scotty

Phew it is utter madness..

Post Nom Rows always a good bit of TV..

oh gawd they have moved to the garden


.. part II


Dave says I asked who you were voting out and you drew a  sun on the board.

inside Govan spluttered at that when it was said,  to deny it... but now says when it is mentioned again that yeah ok maybe he did do that

Shabby comes out and ask if they could perhaps sort this out later.. . .

I think they are on the home straight now and no doubt they will be bonding and hugging soon..

they are going thru the 'at the beginning  I thought you were' part now and the 'then I wondered why you were off etc.. '

Dave says I thought you were playing the game and weren't being a nasty person and I can also see why she was upset and over and over and over again..

Govan says but yeah can you understand how insulted i felt when you accused me of that [wanting sunshine out] when it wasn't what I was doing ..

[how can he lie so much... he wanted the mole out and didn't want to get the boot himself.. .he thought Sunshine was the Mole. .simples.]

misunderstanding all around.
Mount Olympus *Olly*
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hahaha

Govan tells Dave the difference between them is he seem to be focusing on the outside and Govan is focusing on the here and now ie BB..


hahahah he is so image conscious it is unbelievable.. he's scared silly he'll be seen as a baddy inside and out : - opinion -

they seem to agree to disagree about some things.. Well when Dave can get a word in over Govan interrupting every minute ..

inside they are talking about the row. .John says he feels people should not interfere and Dave should have waited to comfort Sunshine  until Sunshine and Govans argument had finished..
Mount Olympus *Olly*
Ben double checks with John and say so you mean don't go up to comfort anybody having a row even if it looks too one sided..

John says yes. . it makes it look like you are taking sides.. even if you aren't

if I am having a row I'll say come back later mate and I'll explain. .everybody should be  allowed to fight their own battles..


Ben says but if it looks one is really overpowering the other till not offer some comfort?..

John says the most I'd suggest to do is maybe say to both to stop or take break or something if it was getting too out of hand

Meanwhile in the Garden

Govan is annoyed that Dave seemed to imply that Govan was telling people to vote for sunshine to get her out .and he soooooo wasn't and and and and.. round and round they go


this will go  forever and I will stop now as my wireless keyboard is going haywire and it is taking me forever to get a post done

I can hear shouting in the back ground from outside the studio.

anyway laters guys
Mount Olympus *Olly*
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thanks hoochie

Ben and John are talking about Be not being able to get to grips or to know Nathan

outside they are going over and over the same old rubbish..

Govan trying to say over and over he wasn't trying to influence anybody by drawing the sunshine on the board. ...

Dave saying yeah all I am saying is from the outside it may look like you did..

Govan says the only thing he is guilty of is maybe over analysing the situation at the time..

Dave says you say about me slandering you and saying your motives are xyz you are doing the same to me by saying I made it worse ..

merry go round...

my head hurts
Mount Olympus *Olly*
Thanks olly, persuaded my hubby to let me use his lappy, he hates me using it, I've already destroyed 2    but means I can watch the footie too, whilst still listening to golumGate ......... but yes, as you say, still going on in the garden, between the raving rev and the golum...... on & on & on... sorry folks just can't keep up with it 
Gel
Govan then goes on to say you and I know that saying sorry doesn't change anything..

Dave well maybe to you it doesn't but to me if I say sorry it means sorry. .all I want to do pre eviction night is to  move on and enjoy the time if that is all I have..

meant to say in earlier posts that Govan kept saying to Dave you can ask my friends in here if they knew my Motives, re him saying he was trying to get  shot of Sunshine were not what he was trying to do,..

he then tells Dave he is focusing on trying to be too nice ..

and now am off... for real this time.. 
Mount Olympus *Olly*
just a quickie about the onions...

govan is insisting that he wasn't talking about Dave when he said why are others getting onions ..

Dave says well as I was the only one that had taken them after it was said, when I was out pf earshot, not to have them they weren't for all.. your statement implicated me even if you didn't name me

Govan runs backwards so fast he'll meet last years BB Hm;s coming in..

he tells DAve not to apologise tho he understands Dave means apologies when he says them..

they are now going over Mole day . .yet again..

this is the silliest row ever. .. Well since the last silliest row ever


am defo defo offski now
Mount Olympus *Olly*
Cheers Guys

final bit even tho I am gorn.

Govan asked Dave to not accuse him if he doesn't know for definite it is'n fact

then he promises not to say Dave is a game player to his friends anymore and he only ever talked about Dave to his mates cos it was to do with him being down

they are going inside finally.. .

oh noooo  Govan has gone in to chat to Sunshine.

good luck LUTting that guys

he starts off admitting he thinks he went about things the wrong way possibly on Mole day..

Caoimhe got her results a 2.1  they have a party later

and I soooooo need a wee so I better get gorn

ps thanks for the word I lost out of my brain Fluffs
Mount Olympus *Olly*
One hour later the mole convo continues between Dave and Govan....
Dave doesn`t want this to carry on. (neither do we) He wants them to get along. He doesn`t expect them to take windy walks holding hands  but would like to drop this and make a fresh start.
Govan doesn`t appear to have heard what Dave said ( no kidding?) and goes back to Sunshine and the mole.
Dave`s sounding and looking exhausted. 
BB announce something (didn`t catch it properly..it was general though) which gives Dave the opportunity to make his escape. (phew)
Govan now captures Sunshine and starts the whole mole convo again...
He`s over explaining himself. She`s looking a bit non plussed by his babbling.
He then goes on and on about Dave and what happened between them.
Now he`s throwing questions at Sunshine. Would you have done the same as me? Would you have made the same decision? (about him voting for Sunshine as the mole) Sunshine`s saying that what got to her was that he thought she was the mole and wanted her evicted. Govan`s backtracking big time ( and getting nowhere)
Scotty
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Bit of a catch up


Govan and Sunshine are sitting talking over molegate and he wants to know if she was bullied at school (sound dip)


Keever (sp) has been told by BB that she got a 2.1 in Spanish i think it was and that they will get a party tonight


Rachel, JJ, Steve, Corin and Dave playing ball with some socks in the lounge, not seen Josie *wonder if she's being punished somewhere*


Ben, Keever and Iffy chatting in the bedroom, iffy asking Ben if he likes boys and girls


Govan still has Sunshine captured in the bedroom
Aimee
0:10

 - Dave, Ben, JJ still chilling on the sofa.
 - Dave's never met someone like Corin.  He says she's had a hard life.
 - He's scratching his balls through his trouser pocket.
 - Smokers come back in, that was quick!
 - Mario joins the others, he sits next to Ben on the sofa.
 - Ben hugs him and kisses him on the cheek.
 - Mario seems happy.
 - Caoimhe, Ife, Shabby in the bedroom.  Caoimhe looks sad.
 - She's worried that she answered a question about who she fancies the most in the house.
 - She's announced that she's just squeezed some zits.
SpiderMonkey
0:15

 - Govan joins Caoimhe, Ife and Shabby.
 - Immediately he is talking at 100mph about nothing.
 - They are moaning that they're running low on cigarettes.
 - Cameras back to the Living Room.
 - Rachael, Steve, Dave chatting.
 - Ben, JJ, Mario involved in a 3-way hug.  Nice...
 - Mario offering to hold some of Ife's cigarettes for an emergency.
 - Ife accepts the offer.
 - Ife self administering the orgasmatron through her hat.
SpiderMonkey
0:20

 - Rachael, Nathan, Govan in the same bed laughing.
 - Sunshine in another bed on her own.
 - JJ joins them in the bedroom, he's also itching his balls through his shorts.
 - They're talking about the difference between pants and trousers, apparently trousers are called pants in Aus.
 - Rachael encouraging JJ to take his vest off to show off his body.
SpiderMonkey
0:25

 - Mario and Ben discussing spin off shows BBLB and so on.
 - Mario's got a weird red mark on his cheek - looks like lipstick.
 - Govan and Nathan go for another smoke.
 - Govan bitching about someone, I think Dave.
 - Nathan doing some macho chat, saying "he'd never dare getting lippy with me".
 - Back in the bedroom - JJ says he received a warning today for kicking a microphone.
 - They're now discussing the microphones hanging above the beds.
 - Corin and Nathan are back in the bedroom now.
SpiderMonkey
0:30

 - Steve, Mario, Ben in the living room talking about nominations lol.
 - Mario says 4 or 5 people will probably be up this week.
 - Steve says don't talk about nominations!!!
 - Ben says we're not mentioning names so it's ok.
 - Dave's there too.  He's arranging the cushions behind his head and nodding.
 - Ben's holding a packet of L&B.  I not sure whose they belong to.
 - Ben now playing the bongos on his leg (sound dip).
 - Dave is describing the formation of diamonds as part of an analogy of life in the BB house.........
 - The conversation has now turned to Sunshine.
 - Dave feels sorry for her.
SpiderMonkey
0:35

 - Mario talking about the Audition process again.
 - 200,000 hopefuls applied.
 - Mario says he's applied the past few years but got rejected.
 - Dave says "maybe it's because your dog died" lol.
 - Ife and Caoihme join them in the living room I think they are on their way for another smoke.
 - In the background Nathan's in a wheelchair messing around.
 - He's just fallen out of the wheelchair.
SpiderMonkey
0:40

 - Mario says he had to work harder than anyone else to get into the BB audition.
 - He says most of the others here didn't even have to audition.
 - He says the producers didn't like him last year.
 - Dave asks what you have to do when you audition.
 - Mario says you have to tell people interesting facts about yourself.
 - You get a stamp on your hand if you are moving onto the next phase.
SpiderMonkey
0:45

 - JJ, Govan, Nathan in the bedroom massaging their own faces with damp-wipes.
 - Govan thinks he'll be up this week, but he's hoping 5 or 6 are up with him.
 - JJ asks Nathan what time he gets up in the morning.
 - Nathan says when BB first call the alarm.
 - Nathan can't complete a sentence without using the F word.
 - Nathan says he once went ice skating, fell over, and bled onto the ice.
 - Cut to the living room.
 - Dave lying down on the sofa.
 - Ben sat on Dave's stomach, chatting to him.  Can't be comfortable...
SpiderMonkey
0:50

 - Dave says he went on BB to bring the love of God to the nation.
 - Steve sat outside with the smokers.
 - They are talking about probably not being able to sleep tonight.
 - Steve laughs...
 - Cut to the nest - Shabby's in there trying to sleep.
 - Ife goes in to see if she's ok.
 - Shabby mubbling incoherantly.
 - Caoimhe joins the nest.
 - Hard to hear a word they're saying.
 - I think Shabby's crying or pretending to cry.
 - Shabby storms out of the nest after repeatedly being asked if she's ok.
SpiderMonkey
0:55

 - cut to the living room.
 - Ben, Mario, Dave sat in close circle chatting.
 - Rachael in the background chatting to someone.
 - Ben listing popular music he likes.
 - Cut to the bathroom.
 - Caoimhe in the bath.  Ife next to her.  Rachael brushing teeth.
 - Caoimhe looks up at a camera blatenty focused on her and smiles.
 - Shabby chatting with Steve in the smoking area.
SpiderMonkey
1:00

 - Shabby and Steve chatting about the mole task still.
 - They thought Mario was too sweet to be the mole.
 - Shabby says she is an excellent actress but she couldn't have been as impressive as Mario.
 - Shabby wearing a hat under a hood.
 - They're going back inside now.
 - Cut to the bedroom.
 - JJ telling Govan he thinks he's a very nice person.
 - Govan says he's feeling paranoid.
 - Govan is saying "do you know what I mean?" a hell of a lot...
 - Corin offers to tweezer Govan's 3 beard hairs.
SpiderMonkey
1:05

 - Steve's in the bedroom.
 - Anyone wanting to get sleep better go now before the snoring begins!
 - Corin demonstrating her strength, giving Govan a piggy back.
 - She's taking him from the bedroom to the living room.
 - Into the garden, she puts him down.
 - Smoke time for Corin, Govan, Josie.
 - Nathan joins them.
 - Very little bitching from Govan tonight - but he keeps saying he's feeling paranoid about evictions.
SpiderMonkey
1:10

 - JJ joins them in the smoking area.
 - Cut to the bedroom.
 - Ben and Rachael chatting.
 - Rachael applying something to her face.
 - Rachael saying she's trying to get to know the housemates she's not talked to much so far.
 - Ben nodding in approval.
 - Rachael says the group tasks are helping them bond.
 - Ben says he's feeling guilty about his nominations.
 - Rachael says don't worry about it, you had to nominate.
SpiderMonkey
Ben with Rachael  -
Comparing notes about feeling bad/guilty about their nominations.
Ben, in particular says he nominated someone he shouldn't have done (or wishes he had not.)
Ben has red toe nails (painted by Josie.)

Bathroom
Shabby with a hat AND a hood  (because she is quirky you see).
Ife and Caoimhe in bath, Shabby dangling her legs in it.
Shabby wants to speak to her best friend "Now. Not later - Now!"

Ben doing something at hand basin.
brisket
Reference:
YESSS we got the real deal now, pervy camera men are out this year and straight to birds in bathroom.
*as reported by your NOTW correspondent* Take it to the discussion thread Meaty! This is for serious journalism!  

Is anyone taking over for a while? Suffice to say, Govan is bitching with JJ in the nest. Inquisition by Govan about who JJ thinks is a player... etc blah blah 'what I do/think/how I behave is'... JJ having trouble getting a word in.
Xochi
JJ and Govan go into The Nest.
Govan: "You're like me. You're very astute."
* sorry I choked*
JJ considers, Mario, Ben ...to be another group (as opposed to not his group.)
JJ thinks Dave is playing a game, (which immediately spurs Govan into rapid talk-over excitement.

They both like Mario and Ben.

JJ would like to thank Nathan more for cooking but doesn't want to be a creep.

JJ thinks if Ben makes a suggestion for the kitchen, he should be prepared to step up and do it himself. At the same time admitting that he (JJ himself) cannot cook.

But Govan is now away - unbelievably - yet again - on the Dave/Sunshine/Mole saga.
* is this the millionth time*
brisket
Bathroom. Shabby, Ben, Caoimhe, Ife
Ben thinks the worst reason if he got evicted would be if people didn't really know him.
Shabby (mysteriousaly and dramatically) says she now gets a good idea of the way nominations have gone.
Shabby (a la Dietrich / Bette Davis) "I get it all; I get it all."
Shabby being overly theatrical and mardy.
Josie arrives.
SDip

Bedroom. Nathan  (using many, many F words) settling down while chatting to Corin and Rachael.

Bathroom.
Ben giving a synopsis of 'The Killing of Sister George' to Shabby.
As an 'aside'  he says to Shabby "I'll educate you about films."
Ben says all his favourite films upset him. "I am a sensitive soul."
Conversation continues in same vein.
brisket
Living area.
Ben has now moved here.
Mario on his back. Dave lounging. Ben joins them.
Dave hugs Ben, reaching across Mario. Mario joins in and it becomes a 3-way hug.
Ben and Mario do a 2-way hug and kiss.  (very sweet - opinion).
Ben is slightly teased by Mario and looks very self-aware with a little smile.


Dave thinks it will be 3 people up for eviction including himself.
Ben says Dave makes him laugh.


Dave begins to talk about his argument with Govan.
Ben says he likes Govan but Govan was aggressive towards Dave.
Ben and Mario say neither of them would have reacted with the aggression Govan showed.
Ben and Mario go to the bedroom together (with Ben saying "Isn't he wonderful?" - referring to Dave.)
brisket
Shabby, Caoimhe and Ife do goodnight hugs with Mario, then go to bed (I think.)
Mario takes 2 glasses of water to bedroom for himself and Ben.
Bedroom. Lights out. Quiet.


The Nest.
Govan still babbling. JJ, and they have now been joined by Josie (who has already said she is not tired.)
Josie sucks her thumb.
**now these 3 make me think it could be a long night**
It would seem Govan has divulged something about his past life, but we were not there to hear it.
They mention wrap party.
SDip
brisket
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As I mention earlier, it appears that JJ and Govan feel they are in the same group.
They seem very at ease together.


Bedroom. Remains all quiet.


The Nest.
Josie no longer there.
Goven (as he does) says "no, no, no, no, no, no,no," rather than "no".
JJ now on his feet.
They move out of The Nest (clambering over the seats to get to the  rather stupid entrance.)
They join Josie at the smoking area.
They all agree they like Ife. (Although JJ does note that she takes ages to explain something.)
JJ says I F****** hate her" - referring to Rachael.
He thinks Rachael may cause him to snap.
JJ: "All my life I've hated girls like that."
Govan says "I could tell."  
(Of course he could because Govan understands human behaviour - sarcasm)

JJ repeats "I f*****hate girls like that." He thinks Rachael is arrogant because of what she looks like.


brisket
They move to kitchen.
JJ, Govan and Josie being very buddy-buddyish.
I think they have gelled.
JJ keeps repeating (with many F words) that he hates that sort of thing - referring to Rachael.
JJ still has his hood up.

Ife leaves her hammock and goes to DRoom.
JJ says Ben likes Rachael and she gives him nothing.
Whereas I f******hate her and she wants to give me everything. He is very animated about Rachael.

Govan talks endlessly but the others talk over him because ....well....just because....perhaps he talks too much.

Govan thinks it will kick off between JJ and Rachael.

This is now mostly repetition so I'll pick up again when conversation moves on.
brisket
It would appear that Jj, Govan and Josie have become a unit. There seems to be a mood of enjoying being together.
*but this is BB and who knows what is genuine.*
Various shots of bedroom. A little snoring but not too much. Shabby sleeps with a sub-antartctic hat on.
Steve still asleep, but snoring intermittent.
Cameras spending a long time in bedroom.


**wonders if the shots of sleeping housemates are more exciting than events in the kitchen betwen JJ, Josie and Govan - perhaps they are**
brisket
Ah!   Activity   - a shot of the DRoom door.
Snoring level in bedroom increases.
Ife emerges from DRoom.

Back to kitchen - it is as if we never left.
JJ still swearing about Rachael and the sort of girl she represents.
JJ thinks Rachael looks down on people and has an attitude.
Josie is mopping the floor.
Most of the conversation is the same as an hour ago.
Govan is brushing his teeth in the kitchen.
Now in bathroom.

(opinion - you know how BB housemates brush their teeth for about an hour, simply to convince other housemates that they are this hygienic all the time.)

JJ leaves them.
Govan and Josie go to smoking area.
Josie is "amazed" by much of what JJ has said. She seems to have a very stereotypical view of such things.

Govan now telling Josie it is obvious Rachael is conceited (influenced by JJ?  - opinion)
Giggling about ...??   not sure....
They return to house. Giggling.
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Josie does a rather juvenile teeth cleaning session.
JJ appears in living area and along with Josie and Govan go to the D Room.

**The only new question tonight leaves me with is who exactly does JJ regard as his allies? And what people ragard JJ as their ally?"

This long night has only offered more of Govan talking rapidly mostly about other people, Josie being giddy, and where does JJ see himself.

Bedroom. Snoring level increases.  (Bird song increases outside my home.)
brisket
Goven minces floats across the floor to Josie.
It appears that Govan has had private words from BB.
About something said in The Nest to JJ.
Now he is doing the paranoia again.
"Have I looked really bad today?"
Oh no no no no no .
Back to Govan and the Sunshine thing!!!!!
Josie tells Govan that he has a lot of influence over everyone in the house.

 I repeat - Josie tells Govan that he has a lot of influence over everyone in the house.

Josie: "You're being real."
Govan having feelings of regret and anxiety. What if??and so on...

Oh no I don't believe this. He wants another cigaratte before bed.
Govan anxious about being evicted.
Josie:"You won't go. Everybody loves you so much."
Josie does not want another cigarette. Govan does.
This is repeat, repeat, repeat.
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Confession to Josie at the smoking area.
In the audition process I said I was bi.

He says he is not and that he may now get serious abuse from his friends, even though he has gay friends.
He says he entered BB as an act of defiance.
"I have always known I wasn't normal" says Govan.
Josie says the same.

** opinion   - high, highly suspect**
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This is not clear to me what Govan is saying.
It seems he is saying he lied when he said he was bi.

He is now anxious about the consequences of that.

They go to bedroom whisper loudly, giggle, and go to bed.
Josie sucks her thumb. Govan gets out of bed again.
He goes to sit on bathroom floor. Head in hands.
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Govan appears to be upset.
*How do they get through the psychological test to enter BB*
Wipes tears away.
Josie gets up to hug and comfort him.
"I can't talk now" says Govan.
Josie returnsa to bed. Govan goes to smoking area.

It appears to be an issue of his own making.

He rolls a cigarette.

** I must remind myself to stick to the facts i.e. what I can see and hear, and post my opinions elsewhere.**
brisket
Josie has joined him in The Nest.
"You are a soldier" she says.
A lot of Sound Dips (BBprobably saving these for future programmes)
"I'm over it; it was a long time ago" says Govan.
Somebody at some time has tried to "ruin it" for Govan???
(He checks the camera.)
Oh no back to Sunshine. "She's not really bad". She's perhaps not as bad as he thought she was. (he says)
brisket
Now back to the problems in the house (today's argument with Dave).
Gosh if a light entertainment / reality programme can  reduce a person to such a state.....
There is a limit to the amount of time a person can devote to self-pity.


** It seems this is a youngster with many self-doubts who is now becoming much more boring than entertaining.**
And it goes on and on and on..... and on....
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