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Ife joins Shabby and Caoimhe.
Shabby paces as she demands "Why the hell is she here." referring to Sunshine.
They are either doubting, or trying to diminish, her medical qualifications.
Ife attacking Sunshine. Implying because Sunshine wants to be a doctor she thinks she is better then the rest of us.
Ife she she thinks she will be able to get any job she wants after BB.
"Maybe not reading the news, but anything else. Yes."
Caoimhe and Shabby try to bring balance, but Ife continues and says she doesn't live in a dream-world. "Dream world my ar*e" says Ife and leaves.
Shabby continues to expound on how reality tv works. She talks about editing. She says if some people can't cope with it they souldn't come on such a programme. (Lots of F words.)
brisket
Sofas. Ife, Josie (thumb-sucking) JJ, Caoimhe.
Ife sounding very naive, yet over-confident, cocky even.
Now she talks about Sunshine who she thinks feels superior to her.
(Ife introduced a "class" difference when she mocked Ben previously.)
It's clear Sunshine is an attention seeker says Ife.
Ife making some personal viewpoints as if they were fact.
brisket
Keeva, JJ, Josie and Ife continue to discuss SS dramatics.

They discuss what you need to be a doctor - of course you need top academic scores, but SS doesn't have the people skills.  Ife says you need to be super confident.  SS is probably different in her work life.  Keeva reiterates she's an attention seeker

Mario emerges from the DR and informs HMs that BB says when SS comes out they've not to talk to her and let her go to bed ...that includes asking if she's ok.  JJ asks what the issue is - Mario says he can't talk about it but BB will want to talk to him
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Camera goes to SS and corin in bed whispering.  Corin advising SS to be aware of what JJ is like.    Sunshine says he was dragging her and made her plead.  she was telling him to stop and he wouldn't stop.

She is concerned about film being shown of this and affecting her ability to become a doctor

Corin tries to get her to see things in perspective - and it's fine for her to have fun and when sh becomes a doctor then she will be serious.  She says sunshine starts stuff with JJ as well ...she needs to be aware of th impact of her actions.  if she wants to continue to flirt with him she needs to think about what she does.

Sunshine continually saying he did stuff first.
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Mario leaves the DRoom and tells the others that BB has requested they leave Sunshine along and do not question or hassle her.
"And that includes you JJ" says Mario calmly.
JJ goes to DRoom.
Sunshine in bed alongside Corin whispering "I kept saying stop, stop" she says.
Corin points out that JJ can't really take a joke.

Corin offering reassuring words to Sunshine.
Sunshine saying "Why doesn't JJ stop when I say 'stop'?"
It seems that some physical aggression was involved and BB will be having words with JJ.
But, not having seen it I don't know exactly how much physical aggression was involved.
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convo between Corin and Sunshine continues with Corin trying to say to SS that she needs to understand what JJ is like and that her actions do have a part to play in how things go with them.  Sunshine justifying things by saying JJ started it and he did stuff first.

Corin - if you want to continue to do these things with him then be prepared that sometimes it could result in a blow up.

SS says BB said they were going to speak to him but she said no don't

Corin says she just needs to call a halt to the bantering, Everyone in the house knows what he's like.  he asked her to stop throwing the water and she kept doing it - she must've known what to expect.

SS - yes it's my fault, but at the same time I was pleading with him to stop and he didn't stop....
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Hi brisket.  I haven't been around the last few days 'cos I've had a horrible cold, which I'm coming out of tonight a bit I think.

But you're right. No-one has seen the footage that SS thought might be a problem, nor did we see the build-up to it. I suspect it was the sort of rough-and-tumble that she and JJ seem to engage in a lot which may have gone too far and which SS has become very sensitive about now.
Xochi
Bathroom. Josie, Ife, Shabby
"She owes me an apology" says Shabby.

JJ leaves DRoom.
He goes to kitchen and Ife - yes Ife - runs and pounces on him. (not literally.)
How eager is she?
JJ speaks to Ife and gives her a version of events (presumably) but with sound-dip.
Cut to sleepers in bedroom.
Shabby in bed wearing jacket and braces.
Sunshine being thoughtful - can see her blinking - and a bit restless.
brisket
Josie, John James and Ife. Apparently JJ has up-dated them on his version of events.
Ife still sounding off about "her"  (Sunshine.)
Ife has made it quite clear tonight where her sympathies are.
They attempt to drag Mario into it by wondering if he has expressed an opinion.
But they are not able to say that Mario has taken sides in the matter.

It would appear they regard him as fair-minded.

They go to the bedroom.
Josie and JJ do their, now regular communication across beds.
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Morning peeps


JJ is on the sofas with Dave trying to explain what happened with Sunshine last night as Dave didn't see it, JJ is saying he didn't harm her on purpose, he only dragged her across the floor a little bit, if BB thought he was trying to harm her they would have thrown him out, but she ran straight to the DR and he doesn't know what she said about him in there


Apparantly Sunshine threw water all over his bed, she went to do it again and JJ told her if she did it again he would throw her in the pool, she threw water all over him instead so he he picked her up and threw her in the pool, he says she was laughing before and after, but when everyone crowded around her she milked it for all it was worth


Mario dreamed last night that him and Josie where training to be GPs, josie is worried because she has started talking in her sleep

Ben is talking about Sunshine in the BR to Shabby and Ify about Sunshine wanting the public to know about all the charity work she does, Ify saying you see it's all about the public with her (looks like it's sunshines day for a battering*

JJ still talking to Dave about Sunshine, he says if she did say STOP STOP STOP, then he would have, BB said to him to think about how it would look to the public

Aimee
thanks Hoochie and Brisket..


The Incident

sunshine threw a pillow at JJ last night, he threw one back, she went to throw water over him he said if you do I'll throw you in the pool, she carried on, Jj threw her in the pool. . having taken her from the bedroom first, at one point in the rough and tumble her dress rode up a bit showing her knickers..  and she got a carpet burn ..that is what set her off.. she ran to the DR cos she was worried her bits were on show and it would harm her reputation. .. up to that point she was ok with the rough and tumble that she admits she started..

BB called JJ in and told him off..  unfairly I think, and so does sunshine as she has said so this morning.  and all is ok on that front..

Ife spent the whole night flitting form drama to drama acting exactly the same way as Govan did..  nose in every pot..  running and telling each group what was going on. .

{for Brisket:  Mario said the other day he'd gone off Ben a bit in the fancying way.. .and had withdrawn a bit from the flirting stuff. .I think he's told Ife this and she has taken it as her job to interfere in this matter as well in case Mario breaks his resolve to draw back after a few beers.. ..there is nothing between them other than Ife wanting to be in every pot that is going on in there,  stirring away..   ) 

Shabby was upset Sunshine had the Drama of the night so got up and started her own with Caoimhe  ..    she failed to make her drama the most important of the night..
Mount Olympus *Olly*
BB announces theres new batteries in the hatch, Ben shouts let Sunshine do it (looks like he's siding with Ify today)


Ify is annoyed cause JJ and Dave are sitting near the hatch but haven't bothered to get the new batteries, Steve has had to get them instead


Dave asks JJ if BB told Sunshine they was going to show the inciddent on the show and JJ says yes


Josie is finding JJ draining, she likes him but his head is a mess, he's too concerned about who he can trust

Josie telling JJ it was just a play fight that got out of hand, JJ says he's said sorry but she makes everything sound ten times worse than what it is

Dave in bed with Sunshine, she wonders if her dad has wrote any letters to their local paper about BB, she asks Dave if what happened last night will effect Fridays vote, Dave doesn't think it will
Aimee
BB has given Sunshine dressings for her cut


JJ is asking josie if Shabby is ignoring him, josie says it's blowing it all up into something it's not, he says BB made him feel like a villian, he starts on about Sunshine again, he says she always starts things and then whinges when it gets out of hand, Josie thinks it all started cause Sunshine has a massive crush on JJ and she got jealous cause he was in the BR with Josie, JJ says how was he supposed to know Sunshine fancied him


*JJ is winding himself again* BB told him to think of would the public would think, JJ says he's fed up of thinking about the public, he wants to be himself not try and be what the public want him to be, he would be a fake then, he thinks moving to the UK has gone down the drain now, Josie tells him to lighten up
Aimee
Ben has been caught out talking to the tree, he calls it ghastly  he said it picked the wrong person, he doesn't want to do what it is asking him
He says everything is too politicly correct these days, your not even allowed to tell jokes about ironside  even Anne Robinson got told off for putting Wales in room 101


Steve goes into the DR to inform them they've worked out that Ben has got a scret mission, BB tells him to go and have his lunch (when will they learn not to say they've worked out someones mission)
Aimee
Corin and Steve talking about bens TOT task, Ben has told Steve he's missed 2 appointments with the tree  Steve says yesterday all the toothpaste went missing and this morning it turned up in Sunshines drawer  Steve says we won't get a treat now we've sussed him out


Ify and Corin are trying to work out what ben had to do, Ify calls BB evil


The shutters have been down most of the morning, Ify is hoping theres an assualt course being built
Aimee
Hms are told off for looking through the mirrors, Shabby shouts shut the bloody curtains them, we are bored

Dave trying to get Shabby to tell him about her TOT task, she says no
HMS are laughing at Ben cause he's been told off for not making his appointments with the tree, he says he was either too tired or he was sitting in the sun  he says they were asking him to do things he knew he never would have got away with, Corin is in stitches, she says so you just didn't bother to go to your appointments them
Aimee
Mario says Ben made it so obviously, by leaning on the drawers and talking none stop  (sorry for all the gremlins)
All the HMS are talking about the TOT on the sofas
Josie says it's only going to get worse in there, they starve them and then give them food, it's all up and down, Sunshine wonders if they will take their beds next
Shopping task being read to the group, it's called laugh along with the world, to celebrate joke week
Shabby, Sunshine and Keever are an Irish, Scottish and English man
Josie is a dumb blonde
Ben is the stand up comedian
Corin is a nun
2 chickens are Dave and JJ
Mario is the mother in law
Ify is a waiter
nathan is a scouser
Aimee

Mario asking Ben if he can actually tell jokes
Dave making Corin look uncomftable, by saying she can't half put food away, she says i haven't eating all day and it's just a jacket potato (Dave has just had spag bol, IMO his always first there when theres food going)

JJ still going on about Sunshine, JJ thinks she made him look stupid, Josie thinks she wants to make friends with her but JJ's not interested, She made last night all about her, she loved it and got everyones attention, even though she was saying she was going to leave she was laughing when she said, JJ thinks she was wrong to laugh cause he could have been evicted. Sunshine has told Josie she didn't mean for JJ to get into trouble


JJ thinks Sunshine shouldn't have gone into the DR, it made matters worse, they've signed a million contracts before going in, saying they let BB show anything they do on TV, JJ thinks Sunshine has got double standards as she tried to pull his towel off when he got out the shower the other day


Ben explaining to Sunshine and Dave what his mission was, he had to take all Sunshines glitter and lipstick and he just couldn't do it, everytime ben stands up Dave is on to him

Aimee
Sunshine wearing green lipstick and matching eyeshadow
Steve Josie and JJ cleaning the kitchen, the rest are lounging about, BB calls mario to the DR in a very stern voice
Josie telling Steve a bad joke in the kitchen
Bens telling Corin that another part of his task was to take Shabbys hats, he thought she was too close to the edge as it was
Aimee
thanks Aimee for your hard work today

tis great and you get the stuff down too so don't be knocking yourself :smackbottomsmiley:

and tis a shame we don't have as many people as we did on  C4 to give peeps a break or LUT alongside so the LUT is always covered one way or another.. .  but alas the numbers are much lower here so tis impossible to do. .  gone are the days of putting a call out for help in the LUT and peopel coming running... .but at least we have some which is better than none   .. .. 

thanks Scotty ..am feeling a bit less hot today but have had a Doc appt which means I had to do the 'going out' thing which has taken all my strength from me for the day..

am PMSL @ Caoimhe in a fat leprechaun outfit complete with ginger beard and Ben with an 'I am a Joke' sandwich board.. 

I see Ben managed to do his TOT task and get the Stand Up job
Mount Olympus *Olly*
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Thanks Olly


All Hms are now in costume waiting for the shutters to go up, apparantly there are real chickens in the garden and everytime one crosses the road, dave has to tell a joke


Josie has got a long blonde wig and big plastic boobs, Corin is gutted she had to pay 4 grand for hers
mario is dressed as a woman, he's asking Steve about his mother in law, so he can think of some jokes

steve is dressed as a doctor, Ben has a sign round his neck saying *i am a joke* part of the task is to break a world record
Dave and JJ enter the chicken coop in the garden, they've got to try and stop the chickens crossing the road, Corin and Ben don't like chickens
Aimee
Your welcome


nathan's been up a while, cleaning the kitchen and having a run round the garden


All HMS are awake, Shabby and Ben chatting in the BR, Shabby on about being evicted tonight, she's going to pretend the crowd isn't booing, she's got alot on the outside so she's not bothered about going, now talking about things that could have been written in the press about her


Corin wiping off yesterdays make up and getting ready to apply todays  she's hoping they win the Β£500 shopping budget


Mario reminds Ben he has to do the washing up today, Ben thinks the sign round his neck may get in the way and he may need Marios help


Dave complaing that BB have took the chickens away


Sunshine showing Shabby her war injuries from the battle she had with JJ, she's told BB she needs savlon and some bandages


Shabby's being quite pleasant to everyone this morning
Aimee
Sunshine wearing a pink fascinator with matching pink lipstick
JJ telling Josie off for telling someone they had one ear higher than the other one, Josie telling him he is the only one in there that is so touchy about the way he looks, he said he was teased about his looks all the way through high school


Shabby asking keever if she stays does she think she will be able to do another week, Shabby saying at least she has heard things over the wall, Keever hasn't so she doesn't know what the public thing


Shabby saying she will be mortified if she has been portrayed as a rascist or homophobic or anything like that, she moves on to Govan saying he probably left because he was a gossip going from one group to another


Keever tells Corin she is nervous about tonight but excited, Corins painting her nails for her
Aimee
Josie is going to put make up on JJ for eviction night and he's going to wear Josies bristol t shirt that BB gave her
JJ says he's finding it hard in the BB house as he finds it hard to trust people, he's got 2 or 3 really close friends that understand him
Sunshine asks Ben when he is doing his part of the task, he says it's not even been written yet  (the poor bloke doesn't know whats coming)
Josie tells JJ he would make a good gay man, he says he'd be proud to be gay, Josie thought when she first met him that he was gay and thats why he was so angry all the time cause he was struggling to come out


Josie thought she was gay when she was about 14, shabby thinks she would make a lovely gay
Shabby starts shouting over the wall to people passing by
HMS have been called to the sofas, they think it may be Bens turn to do his task
Aimee
The chickens passed their part of the task, as did Sunshine, Shabby and Keever, the rest failed, if Ben passes his they will win, if he fails their on basic budget, BB calls Ben to the DR
Shabby is wondering if the blonde girl in her photo will turn up tonight
Sunshine has got a big plaster on her knee  (anyone would think JJ tried to chop her leg off)
Ben returns from the DR, ben tells them he's got to go outside and do a 90 sec routine to the crowd during the eviction, he thinks the boo's will be so loud they won't know if he's funny or not
Shabby doesn't like this as he will be able to see everyones banners  she says she REALLY doesn't like it, JJ thinks it will be a fake crowd
Shabbys got a right scowl on her face now  JJ and Shabby seem to be the only 2 that aren't happy about this
Aimee
Ben thinks the crowd are all 16 yr olds and won't think he's funny
Nathan thinks the crowd will be shouting abuse at him for the 90 secs
Shabby still scowling in the background
Bens worried that when he sees the world outside he might want to stay out  Shabby still ranting on, she thinks it's unfair that Ben will know which way the wind is blowing and she doesn't want him to know
she doesn't believe that they will let someone outside, he will get to hear what they are shouting, she thinks it will influence his nominations, she says she isn't pleased


Josie says she isn't bothered, Shabby says well your not up for eviction, I AM
She thinks this is a terrible idea and she'll be looking at his face for clues about where she stands
Aimee
The other HMS are trying to help Ben with his jokes
Corins impressed that Bens suit for tonights show is from Marks
JJ thinks the perfect person has been picked for this task
Shabby telling Ben now she's not happy, talk goes back to Govan, she could hear the chants of *get Govan out* before he went and it was hideous, she doesn't like the fact Ben will know if she's going before she does  she keeps bringing up the fact he was saved last week


Ben was told he had to choose the role of the stand up, Shabby says it's good we didn't say no to you then (she's not taking this well)
Ben doesn't like his suit, he says it's very cheap material
Shabby thinks theres a reason why they want Ben to see the crowd
Nathan thinks JJ is a very negative person
Dave wants 2 legs of lamb on the shopping list, nathan doesn't like lamb so thats not going to happen
Aimee

Shabbys got a bad feeling about all of this
She has no idea why they are doing this but it is fishy, she thinks they might send him to a different house
Ben says they said outside to the crowd, he wonders if he might be going to a working mans club
Shabby says the main rule of BB is not to have any contact with the outside world
Ben asks Mario why he thinks they are doing this, Mario thinks it will be a fake crowd
Shabby thinks everyone is thought of has a hate figure except for Steve, they've all done bad things in there
Ben wonders if he will be bundled abroad  he says he hasn't got his passport with him
Shabby thinks BB want Ben to hear things, just like when the ball was thrown into the garden




Aimee
Shabby talking to JJ ...saying what if keeva gets evicted ..SD

Shabby feeling fine

Josie consulting Nathan on the rules of game - (it's chequers)

Shabby announces she's finally happy with the way she looks

They start talking about massages

Nathan asks Mario for a massage

Ife talking about giving Steve massages some chat

Shabby and Keeva in the bathroom

the last place keeva wants to be is sitting here

Shabby finds people irritating when they are safe from eviction

she says Keeva might be seeing her boyfriend in a couple of hours

back to the game and nathan Josie and dave debating rules of the game

 ...
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Ben and Dave chatting

Ben saying Mario is being a real Bstrd  to him

Dave says he doesn't know what he's up to - does Ben want him to have a word

Corin going on about her spots - keeva advises her to squeeze them

JJ ranting about "devil juice"  What's the point in only having 3 sips of beer - he can't even be bothered to use his thumb to open the can

Ben asking JJ what Mario said about his punishment

*enter Ife*  Ben starts explaining what happened   ....they had been speculating that as part of the task Ben might get to choose new HMs.  Mario had said if he did to get a cute gay guy for him - Ben had said no as it would ruin his chances of a career in America.  If he was perceived as gay he'd get no work in America - mario was offended.  Ben continues on on the subject of Mario

Shabby says if she's nominated next week she's going to seriously kick off
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Josie, keeva and sitting at the table drinking - keeva complains that no one listens to her.  Josie says it's because she never says anything ... then adds she only says stuff when she's with Shabby.  Shabby's eyes widen with elight.  Keeva says it happens in RL as well - nobody listens to her .... Josie says she never sees her talking one to one with anyone
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
JJ is lying in bed discussing sunshine and how she acted and would be perceived

Ife in the bathroom with Mario telling him what Ben told her earlier  and asking if Ben was correct in his assumptions.

Mario says up to a point but this year's BB was not about celebrity and Bing!  up pops someone wo has presented on telly.  Ife appears to be attempting to appear to deliver another counselling session

Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Shabby has just stomped off in a huff because Josie and keeva weren't paying full attention when she was explaining about some group roles/types I think ... she was saying Keeva was an "aloof" type because keeva says she likes to observe
...Josie and Keeva giggle as she goes

They continue to chat - Josie says she's not used to even being bought a drink attention from 2 men throws her.  Keeva sees JJ as asexual ..she's never seen him flirt.  Josie says he flirts with her

Steve comes along - Keeva says he saw her vagina tits and bum tonight (I have no idea if she's joking)  Steve says they were lovely
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Mario and Ife still in the bathroom discussing Ben

The first time Ben made the comment mario thought he was joking second time was like a knife in the back

Ife then says I have to ask ... after Dave made the comment about being immoral how could Mario remain friends with him?  Mario says he accepts people for what they are.  Ife says she just can't understand how he can (in my opinion she's stirring) she continues to push the point

Ife then goes onto complain about those who've drunk the wine - she doesn't like lager and there's no wine left

In the garden Keeva seems to be showing the effects of the drink
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Back to Mario in the bathroom ....mario saying he likes to find the good things in people ..the essential goodness

Ife - none of this is any of my busines but - she continues to go on about Dave and the immoral thing and saying others have told her stuff and she's asked Dave.  She thought Dave's response was fair enough ... but when she thought about it the next day and spoke about it with Josie she started to think what he'd said was a lie

Mario says Dave's core is good ....even if there's a lot of loony tunes going on!

Ife continues - you shouldn't be friends with someone who thinks you and your partner don't have the right to get married.

She's repeating herself again... mario says it's fine it doesn't bother him.  and with him and Ben it will be fine tomorrow he hurt him today but it will be okay

BB announces there are snacks for the HMs
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
JJ talking abut eating stuff out of the bin.  At first he thought there's no way he could eat stuff out of the bin - then he thought there was no way he couldn't eat the stuff out of the bin.  ife says that was her lowest moment

Josie sys this is the first day JJ hasn't had a row with anyone.  Hasn't it been a good day - such a nice atmosphere as he hasn't rowed with anyone
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Josie and JJ chatting BB teaches you not to judge a book by it's cover

Josie thinks that BB would have expected her and Shabby to kick off

JJ says that he would have thought he and Nathan would have kicked off but he  has a lot of respect for him.  Josie says that's 'cause he's feeding them.  JJ says fair play to him - he couldn't do all that cooking
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Ife's hurt her hand punching the fire escape - she's waiting to go and apologise to BB

In the bedroom steve is calling to Nathan "what on earth is wrong with them wtf are they wanting to break fire escapes for"

mario is telling JJ he is trying to suppress his anger ... so close to loosing it again

the discussion is continuing about what went on about breaking the fire escapes Nathan and steve seem quite p'd off.  Think it may have been Shabby, Ife and Keeva but not sure.  Some concern that they may lose their shopping budget
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Shabby shouting to Keeva - if you want to go you'll go. but they should be glad they had one night when they were kept together... somebody looking after them

keeva is sick of having to struggle for food coffee cigs - she cant do it anymore - it's ruining her personality

Shabby says - that's how bad she felt when she had to give up her hat

keeva says she can't see how she can do this - she's a caffeine addict her head is banging without coffee

Shabby says it will be better tomorrow when they get the shopping

Shabby asks what do you think happened with Mario not getting something from sunshine tonight

BB calls them to collect their cases

Shabby is moaning about the stuff she hasn't got

keeva is pissed off - she can't deal with this anymore...she can't do it anymore  sick to death of it!!!  doesn't want to seem like an ungrateful b*tch but that's how it is!
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
The snoring has begun, Shabby seems quite restless and josie is giggling

Nathan has gotten out of bed and gone to the toilet

Josie and JJ whispering to each other ...he says every time I have a joke with you I get into trouble in the morning.  He looks over at her and smiles (he looks very young and open without his usual scowl)  and says "love you Jose"
she says "what" and he repeats it and when she says "what" again he refuses to repeat himself.  They whisper and laugh a bit then Josie says "John I cant wait to talk to you in the morning" He says why She replies "'cause you're such a lovely guy"  more giggling

Shabby calls out "Are these guys high - shut the f*** up! Morons!"  (think she is referring to cameramen)
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Great work Hoochie 

is it my imagination but was part of Mario's huff with Ben cos he thinks Ben is really gay and pretending not to be in case it harms his career,, in specific if he got work in the States?  Am sure I heard him tell Ife he felt Ben was annoyed as Mario had or was trying to out him.. but it could be he meant out as in he's a fraud/fake not as in he's gay..

Mario seems to be suffering from huge sour grapes cos Ben is not for turning..
Mount Olympus *Olly*
Ben's been called to the DR

Shabby in the shower saying she thinks the power cut was a little too convenient

Ben emerges from the DR saying BB tried to dump a load of breakfast on him - but he jumped out of the way

Corin asked what it was - couldn't he have brought it out for them

he is telling the story in the garden ...he sat down and they said he'd done well yesterday and they'd like to give him a full english.  he said he didn't feel like one could he give it to his friend Dave <--opinion ....they said nothing and dumped the breakfast on him but he jumped out of the way

BB said to him they thought Ben would do anything to protect his hair

Ben said no - I'll do anything to protect my dignity
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Morning Olly nice to see you

you may be right Olly ...it went round in circles when each of them were talking about it, and I don't catch everything.  I heard Ben say Mario was annoyed with him because he wants him to be gay and he isn't Ben was annoyed because regardless of what Mario wanted he had no right to try and portray him as such.  They talk so quickly and the camera switches between the HMs so often I do find it hard to keep up
Starfleet Admiral hoochie
Heya Hoochie

Just heard Mario clarify what he perceived Ben was saying in the convo about picking a nice new gay  HM when Ben said gawd that would affect any potential career in the states..

Mario felt he was saying that he didn't want to be associated with anything or anyone Homosexual. .so took it as a personal affront..  am not sure myself how Ben meant it. . .sarcasm at the Americans narrow mindedness  or just a stupid throw away jokey comment..  *shrugs*

Good job Mario didn;t hear Ben bitching about him and his talks about his Old Married Men who buy him gifts [for favours?]. .and the fact Mario is outing them on TV by talking about them [tho he isn't cos the sound goes down and tis not shown ]
Mount Olympus *Olly*

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