I think I am fairly much alone in my opinion that Putin, however much one dislikes him, has a point.

I do not entirely understand our stance and finger wagging,although I heard Clare Short voice a similar opinion as mine on Sunday.

After being interested in politics for many years I eventually reached a point of losing interest, so who am I to talk about political situations whether in the uk or abroad. But I'm airing a view here anyway, in the Referendum the people have made their choice so what business is it of leaders of other countries to poke their nose in, they don't live there and have probably never visited there, if it's what the majority have voted for then that should be abided by, it's their lives and choices. 

I'm not very au fait with politics (to my shame) and I thought my view was too simplistic... I can't understand why the people are celebrating on the streets and America and Britain are refusing to recognise the vote.    Anyone want to enlighten me?

Global politics take such a long time to evolve and this dates back to the breakup of the a Soviet Union. In a nutshell, most of the resources and markets were state owned and during the breakup some smart entrepreneurs developed a system of liberating the wealth and scurrying away with it as fast as their little legs could carry them. Some of these "businessmen" (sic) are currently buying London.
Ukraine is corrupt and unstable, whereas I think Putin is trying to return Russia to some sort of stability.(after the horse has bolted) Given the choice I would vote to be part of Russia too!
The west would obviously prefer the Ukraine to be in their arse pocket rather than Russia's for obvious geopolitical and trade reasons.
I wish Yeatman n Sellars were still here to tell us whether this was a good thing.

Yeatman and Sellar rather!
1066 and all that!

Well given the results I reckon it's a done deal But can't abide Putin ....dangerous guy I reckon ...

Very dangerous, I agree Baz.

 

 

 

Well my point was not so much whether the West should interfere rather can Putin be stopped from doing what he wants. If not, that can't be right because I agree that he his dangerous. You might take the man out of the KGB etc, etc.

 

By the by, an earlier opinion poll had the yesses at about 40%, not 95%.

Some Western Governments like to have a bogey man to boo and hiss at.  Usually the bogey man will be someone who doesn't do as he's told by said governments and who refuses to abide by their 'do as we say, not as we do', rules

 

It's Putin's turn as bogey man but he doesn't seem to care that much.

Never say never. However given Russia's veto at the UN, and Europe's reliance on Russian gas, I think the answer to that question is "It's extremely unlikely"...

Putin has recognised Crimea as part of Russia. What a crock. We will rue the day of complacancy.

It's true Col, Putin can does as he wants.

 

The west is powerless to stop him,I expect to see a re-building of the Russian Federation  over the next few years.

America had  wealth and force as they did what they wanted where they wanted ,Putin has gas and oil,still, the Chinese will be along soon.....

'The Eagle and The Bear will unite against The Dragon'

 

- Nostradamus (I think)

I don't know much about the sayings of Nostradamus but it does strike a bell with me as coming from the bible, Revelations 13:2.

 

And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority.

Nostradamus is usually proved right after the event, rather than before. His predictions usually turn out to be poor.

At services to commemorate the end of the school year, (Lord dismiss us with thy blessing) Our old Headmaster would read from the book of Revelations and strike terror through his pupils. To this day people only have to mention it and I get shivers up and down my spine.

Thanks, Squiggle. Is that the same beast that, it is said, bears the mark of the Anti-Christ?

 

 

I don't know how dangerous Putin may or may not be but, offered a choice of having Putin in the Kremlin or Dubya in the White House, I know which I would choose

Revelations can be very difficult to interpret, but the reference to the bear and the eagle definitely seem to relate to Russia and the USA.

That's what I thought.  Some people have interpreted it as meaning the Third World War with Russia and the USA uniting against the Dragon

 

 

 

Worrying thought and I think whoever said that after the Third World War the Fourth would be fought with sticks and stones (HG Wells?) was spot on, as they say.

 

Just checked:  It was Einstein

 

"I do not know what the third world war will be fought with, but the fourth world war will be fought with sticks and stones"

 

They're both equally dangerous. One because he's intelligent and the other because he's not.

That's my thinking too Cologne

 it's a strange time. Almost the reverse of the early '90s when we all felt so positive about peace in our time. I reckon if Gorbachov was president now, we'd not come to this crossroad.

I agree Cologne ...it's like we are going backwards  

Putin still going on his merry way and Western rhetoric being just that.

Yes... you wonder what's next.