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quote:
Originally posted by cologne1:
I think it's more to do with some feeling of inferiority. He keeps bringing up Freddie's intelligence as if he thinks Freddie purposely tries to bamboozle him. Last night he got very angry at Freddie using the word 'hypocracy'. He's a stupid little boy, knows it and doesn't like being shown up.



I think that is the crux of it Cologne. Freddie was friendly with Charli's group in the beginning and they felt intimidated by his vocabulary (I'm being very careful here). I can understand that. When there's an argument Freddie, Marcus and Bea come up with words like negativity when Charlie only understands words like bitching etc.
If you look at the two groups it breaks down into those that can and those that can't handle themselves vocally.
Sophie and Rodrigo are outside of this because they are confident in themselves.
Tayto.
Charlie is jealous of Freddie because Freddie is :

Richer;
Better Educated;
Better Mannered;
Lucky to have parents who have brought him up with proper values;
Privileged to live in a stately home;
Real competition for winning the show

The last one is the one Charlie has the biggest problem with of course, but the others listed don't help one little bit Laugh
Twee Surgeon
quote:
Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Charlie is jealous of Freddie because Freddie is :

Richer;
Better Educated;
Better Mannered;
Lucky to have parents who have brought him up with proper values;
Privileged to live in a stately home;
Real competition for winning the show

The last one is the one Charlie has the biggest problem with of course, but the others listed don't help one little bit Laugh



That's a lousy post Twee.
Tayto.
quote:
Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Charlie is jealous of Freddie because Freddie is :

Richer;
Better Educated;
Better Mannered;
Lucky to have parents who have brought him up with proper values;
Privileged to live in a stately home;
Real competition for winning the show

The last one is the one Charlie has the biggest problem with of course, but the others listed don't help one little bit Laugh


oh dreary me people really get carried away don't they

oh well at least charlies teeth aren't grey Laugh
Shizzlex
quote:
Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Charlie is jealous of Freddie because Freddie is :

Richer;
Better Educated;
Better Mannered;
Lucky to have parents who have brought him up with proper values;
Privileged to live in a stately home;
Real competition for winning the show

The last one is the one Charlie has the biggest problem with of course, but the others listed don't help one little bit Laugh

The last point possibly...The others personally I disagree....We don't know how Charly's parents raised him and imo it would be unfair to criticise their parenting skills not knowing them as a family....Manners are open to debate as to be fair Freddy's are lacking in some areas....Education well we can always further our education at any stage in life....Stately home it's not where you live it's how you live that matters.....And as for richer well yes Freddys parents are but apparently he's not having had cause to sign on the dole....I'm not a fan of Charley by any means but being poorer less educated etc does not make him a lesser person imo.
~Lee~
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Originally posted by Videostar:
quote:
Originally posted by Windswept:
charlie is jealous coz he woz not told he could win simple as that.

Charlie will soon pull out his trump card to win BB. Wink

The hororr!

alas the folk that will decide BB this year are the daft teeny moby users.WE all cynical viewers won't vote.We might gurn and rant but in the end BB will be decided by 14 year olds,,,,,,,Take their pocket money off them!
kattymieoww
quote:
Originally posted by ~LEE~:
quote:
Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Charlie is jealous of Freddie because Freddie is :

Richer;
Better Educated;
Better Mannered;
Lucky to have parents who have brought him up with proper values;
Privileged to live in a stately home;
Real competition for winning the show

The last one is the one Charlie has the biggest problem with of course, but the others listed don't help one little bit Laugh

The last point possibly...The others personally I disagree....We don't know how Charly's parents raised him and imo it would be unfair to criticise their parenting skills not knowing them as a family....Manners are open to debate as to be fair Freddy's are lacking in some areas....Education well we can always further our education at any stage in life....Stately home it's not where you live it's how you live that matters.....And as for richer well yes Freddys parents are but apparently he's not having had cause to sign on the dole....I'm not a fan of Charley by any means but being poorer less educated etc does not make him a lesser person imo.


Well said, LEE.

Don't forget, too that, while at Uni, Freddie supplemented his income by working as a rent boy! There's his 'proper values' for you!
Barolo
Freddie shouldn't have confronted him, it was playing into Charlie's hands. Just before an eviction night with Freddie up this is exactly what Charlie wants. Also Freddie's smug comments this week just come across bad. Charlie most likely does have jealousy of Freddie but Freddie also uses the power of the knowledge he has been a favourite to rile people up.
Free Thinking
quote:
Charlie is jealous of Freddie because Freddie is :

Richer;
Better Educated;
Better Mannered;
Lucky to have parents who have brought him up with proper values;
Privileged to live in a stately home;
Real competition for winning the show

The last one is the one Charlie has the biggest problem with of course, but the others listed don't help one little bit

The last point possibly...The others personally I disagree....We don't know how Charly's parents raised him and imo it would be unfair to criticise their parenting skills not knowing them as a family....Manners are open to debate as to be fair Freddy's are lacking in some areas....Education well we can always further our education at any stage in life....Stately home it's not where you live it's how you live that matters.....And as for richer well yes Freddys parents are but apparently he's not having had cause to sign on the dole....I'm not a fan of Charley by any means but being poorer less educated etc does not make him a lesser person imo.


Have I got this wrong, but where is the OP saying that Charlie is a lesser person that Freddie - the post is just an opinion on why Charlie dislike Freddie so much.
R
quote:
Richer;
Better Educated;
Better Mannered;
Lucky to have parents who have brought him up with proper values;
Privileged to live in a stately home;
Real competition for winning the show

The last one is the one Charlie has the biggest problem with of course, but the others listed don't help one little bit

The last point possibly...The others personally I disagree....We don't know how Charly's parents raised him and imo it would be unfair to criticise their parenting skills not knowing them as a family....Manners are open to debate as to be fair Freddy's are lacking in some areas....Education well we can always further our education at any stage in life....Stately home it's not where you live it's how you live that matters.....And as for richer well yes Freddys parents are but apparently he's not having had cause to sign on the dole....I'm not a fan of Charley by any means but being poorer less educated etc does not make him a lesser person imo.


Have I got this wrong, but where is the OP saying that Charlie is a lesser person that Freddie - the post is just an opinion on why Charlie dislike Freddie so much.



Oh and to add one more thing - Some people are saying that Charlie has in inferiority complex - I dont think that is right either - I just think he is bloody inferior.
R
i think charlie, dave and lisa all feel intimidated by freddie, marcus ,to a lesser degree siavash and bea(when she was on the other side.
nearly every row involving them(lisa etc.) includes references to their intelligence or how inadequate they feel because of it.shame really as i think it's had the effect of thrusting lisa's lot into the corner and not seeing more of them, when they may have been far more watchable.
jacksonb
quote:
Originally posted by cologne1:
I think it's more to do with some feeling of inferiority. He keeps bringing up Freddie's intelligence as if he thinks Freddie purposely tries to bamboozle him. Last night he got very angry at Freddie using the word 'hypocracy'. He's a stupid little boy, knows it and doesn't like being shown up.


Charlie doesnt understand most words,
if you watch him when the others are having a conversation that DOESNT include nightclubs, getting pissed, OR girls aloud, he just sits there with his mouth open and a blank expression on his face, a bit like a small child listening to "grown ups talking" Nod
old hippy guy
quote:
Originally posted by Essex Angel:
I've only just watched tonights highlights due to son losing his Oyster card and we had to go get him.

Charlie to Halfwit, we know you are the favourite on the outside to win this (not the exact convo by the way) Charlie must be eaten up with jealousy which is why he keeps chipping away.


Charlie is jealous of anyone who has any of the limelight. He feels threatened by Freddy because he is intelligent and he knows alot of the public love him and support him.
Liverpoollass
Charlie is just a twonk.

He has used the fact Freddie can actually string together a sentence as a negative on more than one occasion. He also has ramped up the dislike since latching himself on to Bea, like one of those little lamprey fish you see on the bellies of sharks.

On behalf of all the people of the North East with an IQ higher than that of a potato I'd just like to say we disown him.
Z
quote:
Originally posted by Zleet:
Charlie is just a twonk.

He has used the fact Freddie can actually string together a sentence as a negative on more than one occasion. He also has ramped up the dislike since latching himself on to Bea, like one of those little lamprey fish you see on the bellies of sharks.

On behalf of all the people of the North East with an IQ higher than that of a potato I'd just like to say we disown him.


Nod
Liverpoollass
quote:
Originally posted by Zleet:
Charlie is just a twonk.

He has used the fact Freddie can actually string together a sentence as a negative on more than one occasion. He also has ramped up the dislike since latching himself on to Bea, like one of those little lamprey fish you see on the bellies of sharks.

On behalf of all the people of the North East with an IQ higher than that of a potato I'd just like to say we disown him.


dont worry, some of us NOT FROM the north east but who LIVE up here ALSO know that Charlie is in NO WAY AT ALL typical of the folks in this neck of the woods, Thumbs Up
old hippy guy

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