@slimfern posted:

I'll give that one a miss then shall I El

That's a big difference between 12 & 107   personally I wouldn't put either in front of the other...both are great films.. well maybe 'it's a wonderful life' would inch ahead ...just an iddy widdy bit

One of my sons has a book like the Halliwell one you had but for music...it's not a Halliwell's though, can't think of which one it is atm...

I'd give "Tokyo Story" a miss too

Halliwell's Film Guide includes over 23,000 films so that's effectively the 12th and 107th best film out of 23,000.
I would put "It's a Wonderful Life" ahead of "Singin' in the Rain" as the dance routine with Gene Kelly and Cyd Charisse is good but doesn't really belong to the film. That "Broadway Ballet" routine had been intended to be between Gene Kelly and Donald O'Connor, but O'Connor was unable to do it due to a TV commitment so Cyd Charisse was chosen instead. I assume that the routine would have been very very different and light hearted rather than serious.

By the way "Tokyo Story" is in Halliwell's Top 1000 in 25th place.

@El Loro posted:

I'd give "Tokyo Story" a miss too

Halliwell's Film Guide includes over 23,000 films so that's effectively the 12th and 107th best film out of 23,000.
I would put "It's a Wonderful Life" ahead of "Singin' in the Rain" as the dance routine with Gene Kelly and Cyd Charisse is good but doesn't really belong to the film. That "Broadway Ballet" routine had been intended to be between Gene Kelly and Donald O'Connor, but O'Connor was unable to do it due to a TV commitment so Cyd Charisse was chosen instead. I assume that the routine would have been very very different and light hearted rather than serious.

I quite like a good musical
It would be hard to choose a favourite, but 'Sound of music' has to be up there..Julie Andrews has one heck of a voice..
also like Doris Day in 'Calamity Jane'
Blimey! there are so many to choose from isn't there

@slimfern posted:

I quite like a good musical
It would be hard to choose a favourite, but 'Sound of music' has to be up there..Julie Andrews has one heck of a voice..
also like Doris Day in 'Calamity Jane'
Blimey! there are so many to choose from isn't there

As you say there's a lot of musicals to choose from

@El Loro posted:

As you say there's a lot of musicals to choose from

I'm about to watch 'The Titfield Thunderbolt'.......not a musical
should be good for a laugh though...Ealing comedies usually are

The song "Singin' in the Rain" was in a much earlier film - "The Hollywood Revue of 1929".  It's basically a series of numbers featuring actors and actresses who were contracted to MGM rather than a proper film.
That "Singin' in the Rain" can be seen on Youtube but is very feeble. The only person one might recognise in it is Buster Keaton who doesn't join in the singing and is looking stone-faced (in his comedies one of his trademarks was not smiling).

@slimfern posted:

I'm about to watch 'The Titfield Thunderbolt'.......not a musical
should be good for a laugh though...Ealing comedies usually are

A pleasant enough film

@El Loro posted:

A pleasant enough film

Yes it was..not a side splitter, but fun all the same

I've picked out 'The Magnificent Ambersons' to watch later

@slimfern posted:

Yes it was..not a side splitter, but fun all the same

I've picked out 'The Magnificent Ambersons' to watch later

"The Magnificent Amberson"s is good but an incomplete film. Running time of 96 minutes is not what Orson Welles intended. RKO chopped 50 minutes out of the film and added the ending whilst Welles was out of the country, The removed footage was destroyed by them.
So if there seem to be gaps in the film when you see it, that's why.

@El Loro posted:

"The Magnificent Amberson"s is good but an incomplete film. Running time of 96 minutes is not what Orson Welles intended. RKO chopped 50 minutes out of the film and added the ending whilst Welles was out of the country, The removed footage was destroyed by them.
So if there seem to be gaps in the film when you see it, that's why.

I don't expect Mr Welles was best pleased...
Is it worth watching El?

@slimfern posted:

I don't expect Mr Welles was best pleased...
Is it worth watching El?

I think Welles would have been livid
Film is a period drama of a family riven with rivalries. It's good but isn't the masterpiece that it might have been.

Key Welles films as director would be:
Citizen Kane
Lady from Shanghai (film noir with the hall of mirrors scene)
and Touch of Evil.
Touch of Evil (1958) (Charlton Heston & Orson Welles). The released version ran 95 minutes but had been tampered with by the studio. An attempt was made to restore it in 1975 - that ran 108 minutes. An official restoration by the studio in 1998 runs 111 minutes. Good but an unpleasant film with Welles as an utterly corrupt policeman.

@El Loro posted:

I think Welles would have been livid
Film is a period drama of a family riven with rivalries. It's good but isn't the masterpiece that it might have been.

Key Welles films as director would be:
Citizen Kane
Lady from Shanghai (film noir with the hall of mirrors scene)
and Touch of Evil.
Touch of Evil (1958) (Charlton Heston & Orson Welles). The released version ran 95 minutes but had been tampered with by the studio. An attempt was made to restore it in 1975 - that ran 108 minutes. An official restoration by the studio in 1998 runs 111 minutes. Good but an unpleasant film with Welles as an utterly corrupt policeman.

I sat and watched it with my daughter....we both agreed that George was an obnoxious arrogant so and so
I can see it could have been better if left as was written by Welles...was good nonetheless

Maybe 'Citizen Kane' next, it's a film title I've heard talked about over the years

@slimfern posted:

I sat and watched it with my daughter....we both agreed that George was an obnoxious arrogant so and so
I can see it could have been better if left as was written by Welles...was good nonetheless

Maybe 'Citizen Kane' next, it's a film title I've heard talked about over the years

"Citizen Kane" is one of those films which film critics over the years have regarded it as one of the all time greats. It's an astonishing film debut (as director and actor) but it's a film to admire rather than to enjoy.

It's worth watching though.

night EL slim velvet yogi moonsiee

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Morning Guv     

@velvet donkey posted:

Morning Guv     

Morning Velvet

Orson Welles made some amateur films before he made Citizen Kane.
A 11 minute version of "Twelfth Night" in 1933. What purports to be this on Youtube isn't his as he made it in colour and had him providing a voice over.
"The Hearts of Age" in 1934. That is on Youtube and is about 8 minutes. It's unwatchable, meaningless, gibberish, atrocious and has characters who have blacked up so is offensive.

"Too Much Johnson" in 1938 a silent film over a bit over an hour long. Never released but has been restored with a piano sound track and is on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dkC8vG4x54
By 1938 Welles had formed the Mercury Theatre and some of the actors in that appear in this film, most notably Joseph Cotten. Welles appears as a Keystone cop.

He also filmed an adaption of a play called "The Green Goddess" in 1939. There's no sign that the film was released or that it is in existence. He did made a radio adaptation around the same time which is on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoNQ74tVAwo
Of minor interest is that Madeleine Carroll is in it, she was in Hitchcock's "The 39 Steps".

Been a bit preoccupied El...will take a look and listen tomorrow ...Thanks

@slimfern posted:

Been a bit preoccupied El...will take a look and listen tomorrow ...Thanks

A film starring Walter Huston and directed by William Wyler called Dodsworth (1936) may be of interest to you. Not on Youtube but if you have Amazon Prime doesn't cost anything.

Serious film about a failing marriage. Very well acted, literate and believable. Saw it many many years ago on television. Don't think it's been shown for along time.

night EL slim  yogi moonsiee

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BBC article on a photographer who has been taking photos of foxes and hedgehogs in her garden at night. Also a couple taken in her local woods of a badger and a deer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-58327374

@El Loro posted:

BBC article on a photographer who has been taking photos of foxes and hedgehogs in her garden at night. Also a couple taken in her local woods of a badger and a deer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-58327374

Some lovely shots taken there
We used to have a hedgehog visit our garden.....frightened the life out of me late one night, when I heard what sounded like someone rustling something outside our dining room window at the back of the house by the back gate. Took a lot of courage for me to investigate....floodlit the garden and found our wee visiting hedgehog shuffling along the path with his nose in a cheeses & onion crisp packet

@slimfern posted:

Some lovely shots taken there
We used to have a hedgehog visit our garden.....frightened the life out of me late one night, when I heard what sounded like someone rustling something outside our dining room window at the back of the house by the back gate. Took a lot of courage for me to investigate....floodlit the garden and found our wee visiting hedgehog shuffling along the path with his nose in a cheeses & onion crisp packet

Used to have hedgehogs here too and sometimes foxes but the building of a bypass and more houses in the area over the years seems to make them go elsewhere.

@El Loro posted:

A film starring Walter Huston and directed by William Wyler called Dodsworth (1936) may be of interest to you. Not on Youtube but if you have Amazon Prime doesn't cost anything.

Serious film about a failing marriage. Very well acted, literate and believable. Saw it many many years ago on television. Don't think it's been shown for along time.

I was really pleased that Sam returned to Edith at the end...he deserved to be happy
I found myself disliking Fran more and more throughout...selfish woman!
Although, her not wanting to age is something a lot of women could relate to

Talking of growing old ..was David Niven born an older man I wonder....he always looks the same age

@slimfern posted:

I was really pleased that Sam returned to Edith at the end...he deserved to be happy
I found myself disliking Fran more and more throughout...selfish woman!
Although, her not wanting to age is something a lot of women could relate to

Talking of growing old ..was David Niven born an older man I wonder....he always looks the same age

David Niven did seem to age well. He was in films for about 50 years

@slimfern posted:

I was really pleased that Sam returned to Edith at the end...he deserved to be happy
I found myself disliking Fran more and more throughout...selfish woman!
Although, her not wanting to age is something a lot of women could relate to

Talking of growing old ..was David Niven born an older man I wonder....he always looks the same age

Mary Astor was also in John Ford's film "The Hurricane" (1937).
Disaster film on an island in the South Seas. The hurricane scenes are quite something. It's been on television a few times and is on Youtube,

@El Loro posted:

Mary Astor was also in John Ford's film "The Hurricane" (1937).
Disaster film on an island in the South Seas. The hurricane scenes are quite something. It's been on television a few times and is on Youtube,

What a beautiful place to live (before the hurricane of course). Would have looked even lovelier had it been in colour.
Yes it was well filmed
Sad that so many died and amazing that a baby was born in the throws of it all. Yikes!

Happy to see Delaage show humanity at the very end.

A nice film ...thanks El

@slimfern posted:

What a beautiful place to live (before the hurricane of course). Would have looked even lovelier had it been in colour.
Yes it was well filmed
Sad that so many died and amazing that a baby was born in the throws of it all. Yikes!

Happy to see Delaage show humanity at the very end.

A nice film ...thanks El

Thanks I thought it was a good film I preferred it to another disaster film made in the 1930s - that was San Francisco (1936) about the earthquake there in 1906 even if that had Clark Gable and Spencer Tracy in

@El Loro posted:

Thanks I thought it was a good film I preferred it to another disaster film made in the 1930s - that was San Francisco (1936) about the earthquake there in 1906 even if that had Clark Gable and Spencer Tracy in

Think I might have seen that one El ...Spencer Tracy was another of those that my Mum liked to watch
Worth taking a look though just in case ...has to be better than some of the rubbish on tv this evening

@slimfern posted:

Think I might have seen that one El ...Spencer Tracy was another of those that my Mum liked to watch
Worth taking a look though just in case ...has to be better than some of the rubbish on tv this evening

I haven't seen it for many years but I rated another Spencer Tracy film he made in 1936 as superior to "San Francisco" and that's "Fury". That was directed by Fritz Lang. Powerful film.

The strangest film of his I've seen was "Dante's Inferno" (1935). Tracy takes over a carnival attraction which shows scenes from Dante's Inferno. Most of the film is set at then then present day. It does contain a 8 minute dream sequence showing Dante's Inferno. (the Youtube clip claiming to be the dream sequence isn't as shown in the film). That sequence is a bit mind boggling. None of the main cast are in that scene.
Of note is that one of the two dancers in the credits is listed as Rita Cansino. She later changed her stage name to Rita Hayworth.

@El Loro posted:

BBC article on a photographer who has been taking photos of foxes and hedgehogs in her garden at night. Also a couple taken in her local woods of a badger and a deer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-58327374

love those photos EL thank you

night EL slim moonsieeeee -nice to see you back  yogi

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A BBC collection of photos by 4 Northern Ireland landscape photographers:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...ern-ireland-58447962