@Dame_Ann_Average posted:Enngarlannnnnd
Oh hell aye
@Baz posted:One question .....why would she agree to be filmed and included in this programme if she is so traumatised....
I think they ask to film them and then later ask for consent for it to be aired Baz
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:Rosssssssssssssssss, I said hi on da other page
Rope and knife...*I just popped in for a cuppa* 
Evening. Nearly missed this. Busman's holiday for me.
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:bestieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Rosssssssssssssssssss
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:Rope and knife...*I just popped in for a cuppa*
Hi EC
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Hi EC Yes ....
bloody hell, that's a lot of cases with evidence dropped 
I've said it before......the police can catch them. It's when it gets to CPS and the courts 
I was just having a right old whinge at CPS yesterday.
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:bloody hell, that's a lot of cases with evidence dropped
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:bloody hell, that's a lot of cases with evidence dropped
Yes
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I was just having a right old whinge at CPS yesterday.
Did you win ?
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I was just having a right old whinge at CPS yesterday.
Don't blame ya
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I was just having a right old whinge at CPS yesterday.
didn't know you are police
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I was just having a right old whinge at CPS yesterday.
Hope you told them Rumpole
Rape is probably my least favourite (if I can use that word) case to get. If there is no (wet forensics) DNA, then it's one word against the other. We often get mobile devices to examine looking for evidence. The only occasion where we had a smoking gun I can recall is when the suspect started to contact the victim and play down the events to drunkeness and was apologetic for what happened. But they are few and far between.
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:didn't know you are police
What the hell is he doin !!!!!!!!!
You can't ask that
@Baz posted:
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Rape is probably my least favourite (if I can use that word) case to get. If there is no (wet forensics) DNA, then it's one word against the other. We often get mobile devices to examine looking for evidence. The only occasion where we had a smoking gun I can recall is when the suspect started to contact the victim and play down the events to drunkeness and was apologetic for what happened. But they are few and far between.
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Rape is probably my least favourite (if I can use that word) case to get. If there is no (wet forensics) DNA, then it's one word against the other. We often get mobile devices to examine looking for evidence. The only occasion where we had a smoking gun I can recall is when the suspect started to contact the victim and play down the events to drunkeness and was apologetic for what happened. But they are few and far between.
Yes...itâs quite he said /she said , isnât it
OMG....that's awful
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
What the hell is he doin !!!!!!!!!
You can't ask that
They could in 1982 EC ....which is when that was filmed
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:didn't know you are police
I'm not an officer, I'm a police digital forensic analyst. 
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
What the hell is he doin !!!!!!!!!
You can't ask that
They could then.....
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
What the hell is he doin !!!!!!!!!
You can't ask that
being an absolute tosser....christ what an attitude, mind in the 80's you couldn't walk through the offices without being groped at least once a day.
@Baz posted:They could in 1982 EC ....which is when that was filmed
I felt for her then, they were probably more aggressive to her than the suspect.
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:being an absolute tosser....christ what an attitude, mind in the 80's you couldn't walk through the offices without being groped at least once a day.
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:I'm not an officer, I'm a police digital forensic analyst.
ahhhh wow - the cutting edge really
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:I'm not an officer, I'm a police digital forensic analyst.
burns burner phones
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:I felt for her then, they were probably more aggressive to her than the suspect.
Yes , it was often said to be the case EC ......
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:I felt for her then, they were probably more aggressive to her than the suspect.
think that is how it used to be - terrible
spiked
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:spiked
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:burns burner phones
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:being an absolute tosser....christ what an attitude, mind in the 80's you couldn't walk through the offices without being groped at least once a day.
...and probably a whisky bottle in the bottom drawer and a ciggie in his mouth too.
@Baz posted:Yes , it was often said to be the case EC ......
yes - attitudes have only changed very recently
@Baz posted:Date rape drug ?
No thanks, I'll stick with my diet coke.
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:yes - attitudes have only changed very recently
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:No thanks, I'll stick with my diet coke.
@Baz posted:Date rape drug ?
she said she had only had two drinks, but it's gonna be difficult for them to prove that she was drugged or drunk
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:No thanks, I'll stick with my diet coke.
you wouldn't need a date rape drug if you met us beauties in real life
Of course he won't have concerns because he has taken her off premises - job done - he don't care less.
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:you wouldn't need a date rape drug if you met us beauties in real life
dameee true though
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:you wouldn't need a date rape drug if you met us beauties in real life
Yes , Iâm a 73 year old beauty queen
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:you wouldn't need a date rape drug if you met us beauties in real life
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:dameee
I saw a young girl yesterday as I drove past a pedestrian crossing. Her cut off jeans showed almost all of her buttocks. Seriously, almost all. What made me wonder was why her mum/dad let her out like that.
She's right, but given the way some men's brains work these days.....
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I saw a young girl yesterday as I drove past a pedestrian crossing. Her cut off jeans showed almost all of her buttocks. Seriously, almost all. What made me wonder was why her mum/dad let her out like that.
They probably didnât
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I saw a young girl yesterday as I drove past a pedestrian crossing. Her cut off jeans showed almost all of her buttocks. Seriously, almost all. What made me wonder was why her mum/dad let her out like that.
That's what I would think too, but some parents don't care these days
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
blimey tied her to the bed -plonker
I'll be honest, I have seen some things which were consensual and were pretty extreme. I have also seen a couple attempting bondage, but can't tie knots, so all the ropes keep falling off. The funniest "bedroom scene" I seen in a long time.
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:blimey tied her to the bed -plonker
while he was thinking about hanging himself
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I'll be honest, I have seen some things which were consensual and were pretty extreme. I have also seen a couple attempting bondage, but can't tie knots, so all the ropes keep falling off. The funniest "bedroom scene" I seen in a long time.
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I'll be honest, I have seen some things which were consensual and were pretty extreme. I have also seen a couple attempting bondage, but can't tie knots, so all the ropes keep falling off. The funniest "bedroom scene" I seen in a long time.
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:while he was thinking about hanging himself
Iâd have done a Bobbitt on him 
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I'll be honest, I have seen some things which were consensual and were pretty extreme. I have also seen a couple attempting bondage, but can't tie knots, so all the ropes keep falling off. The funniest "bedroom scene" I seen in a long time.
if anyone had ever contemplated trying to tie me to a bed, he'd be wearing his b**** for earrings, the fear of having no control would terrify me.
@Baz posted:Iâd have done a Bobbitt on him
I would with someone else's hand...wish the copper hadn't found him
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:while he was thinking about hanging himself
pathetic
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:pathetic
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
if anyone had ever contemplated trying to tie me to a bed, he'd be wearing his b**** for earrings, the fear of having no control would terrify me.
I think that is how some people get their jollies!
I'm surprised that more don't go guilty quicker as they almost always get credit.
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:I think that is how some people get their jollies!
not this wuss
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I'm surprised that more don't go guilty quicker as they almost always get credit.
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
No words and having to face this day in day out they deserve a medal
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:I think that is how some people get their jollies!
There was an SVU episode like that. With the detective herself being the victim. It took a while but they eventually got him. He'd shot himself.
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I'm surprised that more don't go guilty quicker as they almost always get credit.
I guess they are so arrogant that they think they will get away with it
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:No words and having to face this day in day out they deserve a medal
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:No words and having to face this day in day out they deserve a medal
totally
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:No words and having to face this day in day out they deserve a medal
Brave woman
@Sprout posted:Brave woman
yes she is
What annoys me is that if he had gone guilty upon arrest, there would not have been all of the police work, the defence work, the jury assembly, the judge and the court time. This is all expensive. They should be made to pay all that back in either cash or time spent in prison.
Also the complainant has to worry all the way up to the court date.
she's absolutely right
she is spot on
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
What annoys me is that if he had gone guilty upon arrest, there would not have been all of the police work, the defence work, the jury assembly, the judge and the court time. This is all expensive. They should be made to pay all that back in either cash or time spent in prison.
Also the complainant has to worry all the way up to the court date.
100% agree EC
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
What annoys me is that if he had gone guilty upon arrest, there would not have been all of the police work, the defence work, the jury assembly, the judge and the court time. This is all expensive. They should be made to pay all that back in either cash or time spent in prison.
Also the complainant has to worry all the way up to the court date.
Spot on EC
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
What annoys me is that if he had gone guilty upon arrest, there would not have been all of the police work, the defence work, the jury assembly, the judge and the court time. This is all expensive. They should be made to pay all that back in either cash or time spent in prison.
Also the complainant has to worry all the way up to the court date.
And sentences should be what they're handed down
@Baz posted:
The number of times I have had colleagues turn up to court only to be "stood down" when the suspect sees that the police and prosecution have turned up and the case will be heard. they then hit the sideroom with their brief and go guilty, especially when it's a paedophile, they don't really want to face a jury.
@Baz posted:I think itâs a good job that he pleaded guilty .....cos I donât think she comes across as a very sympathetic victim
no, but how someone looks shouldn't have anything to do with his sentence or the evidence, and we know sometimes it does
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:no, but how someone looks shouldn't have anything to do with his sentence or the evidence, and we know sometimes it does
I didnât particularly mean her looks .....I just mean she is quite belligerent .....not that I donât believe her ....I was just thinking how she would come across to the jury
CPS!
Statistics. Managed perception.
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
What annoys me is that if he had gone guilty upon arrest, there would not have been all of the police work, the defence work, the jury assembly, the judge and the court time. This is all expensive. They should be made to pay all that back in either cash or time spent in prison.
Also the complainant has to worry all the way up to the court date.
absolutely spot on EC
@Baz posted:I didnât particularly mean her looks .....I just mean she is quite belligerent .....not that I donât believe her ....I was just thinking how she would come across to the jury
I knew what you meant Baz