It's never been worse and politically it's an open goal. Even the satirists are dire. Bar Hislop.
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They don't want to alienate their reach these days. Too safe.
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Frankie Boyle's funny and so is his sister, Susan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BmwjpVxHjSI
i like this guy
tuco posted:It's never been worse and politically it's an open goal. Even the satirists are dire. Bar Hislop.
Every time I see Paul Merton I think "Is it a dolphin in a bathtub?"
Over here we are spoiled for choice when it comes to political satire.
Steven Colbert
John Oliver
Bill Maher
I could go on but there are so many, and it is a golden age here with The Donald as fodder!
Chic Murray was funny..
Roxan posted:Over here we are spoiled for choice when it comes to political satire.
Steven Colbert
John Oliver
Bill Maher
I could go on but there are so many, and it is a golden age here with The Donald as fodder!
David Frost always said that a Strong "Right wing" political leadership (although of course he was specifically meaning Conservative) is a driving force for political satire, and he would cite TW3 and Spitting Image as classic examples.
I think part of the problem is that Brexit has created a very big political divide in the UK, but it's not along party political lines: it often feels more of a cultural divide, and comedians have found it very difficult to deal with it while maintaining a wide audience. Marcus Brigstocke (a satirist, but more political with a small "p") admitted that he'd lost half his audience due to Brexit, and it was unlikely he'd ever get them back. Stuart Lee tackled both Trump and Brexit in his recent tour and at least appeared to be able to gain a diverse audience, but he tends to take an "I hate you all" approach, and he makes it very clear that he's adopting a greatly exaggerated persona for comic effect. The audience members who take the most offence from his current act appear to be "Game of Thrones" fans... 
Interestingly, the Proclaimers were recently talking to the BBC about the current lack of political writing in the mainstream music scene, and they were - in broad terms - describing similar problems: concerns about harming commercial interests, and the internet encouraging an "echo chamber" effect where artists are only preaching to the converted.
I respect all you say Eugene.
Still failure to commit or I'd like to see Ayesha Hazarika sometime.
Eugene's Lair posted:Roxan posted:Over here we are spoiled for choice when it comes to political satire.
Steven Colbert
John Oliver
Bill Maher
I could go on but there are so many, and it is a golden age here with The Donald as fodder!
David Frost always said that a Strong "Right wing" political leadership (although of course he was specifically meaning Conservative) is a driving force for political satire, and he would cite TW3 and Spitting Image as classic examples.
I think part of the problem is that Brexit has created a very big political divide in the UK, but it's not along party political lines: it often feels more of a cultural divide, and comedians have found it very difficult to deal with it while maintaining a wide audience. Marcus Brigstocke (a satirist, but more political with a small "p") admitted that he'd lost half his audience due to Brexit, and it was unlikely he'd ever get them back. Stuart Lee tackled both Trump and Brexit in his recent tour and at least appeared to be able to gain a diverse audience, but he tends to take an "I hate you all" approach, and he makes it very clear that he's adopting a greatly exaggerated persona for comic effect. The audience members who take the most offence from his current act appear to be "Game of Thrones" fans...
Interestingly, the Proclaimers were recently talking to the BBC about the current lack of political writing in the mainstream music scene, and they were - in broad terms - describing similar problems: concerns about harming commercial interests, and the internet encouraging an "echo chamber" effect where artists are only preaching to the converted.
I have heard that Brexit has been polarizing but nobody has given me this perspective. 
The echo chamber effect is very worrying. Obama and Bush have both talked about this recently and both agree. There is a tendency here for the right wing media to change the conversation every time an alternative view is given by saying "but what about...." E.g. Yes current import taxes are affecting the economy, but what about *insert unrelated extreme crime here*. You wouldn't believe how common this is here.
Moonie posted:People tell me I am a comedian though not in a funny way
Reminds me of the famous Bob Monkhouse joke:
"When I said I was going to become a comedian, they all laughed. Well, they're not laughing now, are they?"
