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Should parents with children and prams be legally bound to vacate the space given to wheelchair users on a bus?

 

"The law requires bus companies to make reasonable adjustments for wheelchair users. But is it reasonable to give people in wheelchairs priority over people pushing buggies?"

 

"The supreme court is to reconsider the case of a disabled man refused room on a bus set aside by law for wheelchair users."

 

This was considered in 2015 - don't know the outcome - will keep looking to see what the decision was ... BUT what do you think??

 

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Sprout it seems buses are not duty bound to provide secure storage of either prams or wheelchairs.

It also appears the bus companies are not duty bound to provide spaces for prams.

If the bus was full with standing room only then it seems people would be expected to get off the bus to let the wheelchair user on.

 

I believe space should  be made available but should be available to all as we are either equal or we are not.

Prioritising one need over another is divisive.

Saint
Sprout posted:
Saint posted:

They review the need for spaces and the timetable

That doesn't help the here and now 

Sadly life can be like that

Things can take time to sort out

 

The issue here is that space should be given over equally to those in need. And need should not be judged or else we begin to judge individual worthiness.

 

Saint
Saint posted:
Sprout posted:
Saint posted:

They review the need for spaces and the timetable

That doesn't help the here and now 

Sadly life can be like that

Things can take time to sort out

 

The issue here is that space should be given over equally to those in need. And need should not be judged or else we begin to judge individual worthiness.

 

What I'm saying is...a parent can move about (at a push)   a wheelchair user hasn't got that amount of mobility 

FM
Sprout posted:
Saint posted:
Sprout posted:
Saint posted:

They review the need for spaces and the timetable

That doesn't help the here and now 

Sadly life can be like that

Things can take time to sort out

 

The issue here is that space should be given over equally to those in need. And need should not be judged or else we begin to judge individual worthiness.

 

What I'm saying is...a parent can move about (at a push)   a wheelchair user hasn't got that amount of mobility 

A young man in a wheelchair vs a single mum, crying child, bag of shopping and a pram

Hmmmm

Saint
Saint posted:
Sprout posted:

What I'm saying is...a parent can move about (at a push)   a wheelchair user hasn't got that amount of mobility 

A young man in a wheelchair vs a single mum, crying child, bag of shopping and a pram

Hmmmm

That parent (with help) can still move to another spot on the bus. A wheelchair user can't. The aisles aren't wide enough  

FM
Saint posted:
Sprout posted:
Saint posted:
Sprout posted:
Saint posted:

They review the need for spaces and the timetable

That doesn't help the here and now 

Sadly life can be like that

Things can take time to sort out

 

The issue here is that space should be given over equally to those in need. And need should not be judged or else we begin to judge individual worthiness.

 

What I'm saying is...a parent can move about (at a push)   a wheelchair user hasn't got that amount of mobility 

A young man in a wheelchair vs a single mum, crying child, bag of shopping and a pram

Hmmmm

parents are spoiled.

I'm youngest of five.. my mum had a pram and her feet.

Kaffs
Kaffs posted

parents are spoiled.

I'm youngest of five.. my mum had a pram and her feet.

Yeah, what happened to that. I can remember walking all over the place with my cousin in the pram in the summer holidays with my auntie who looked after me while my mam went to work 

FM
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Kaffs posted:
velvet donkey posted:

So you think a wheelchair user and a (young) mum/dad are equal?

 

I don't get it.

me either - and don't start me on parent and kid parking spaces at the front door of a shop.    They can walk.

I read somewhere that if parents were fit enough to have kids they were fit enough to walk across the car park with them, lol

 

However I just don't think its fair to expect a mum with child to get off a bus to allow a wheelchair on.

Why should someone in a wheelchair be given priority?

Saint
Saint posted:
Kaffs posted:
velvet donkey posted:

So you think a wheelchair user and a (young) mum/dad are equal?

 

I don't get it.

me either - and don't start me on parent and kid parking spaces at the front door of a shop.    They can walk.

I read somewhere that if parents were fit enough to have kids they were fit enough to walk across the car park with them, lol

 

However I just don't think its fair to expect a mum with child to get off a bus to allow a wheelchair on.

Why should someone in a wheelchair be given priority?

She doesn't have to get off - just out of the wheelchair space.

Like before there WERE wheelchair spaces.    Think logically - on your average bus journey how many wheelchair users are there likely to be versus pushchair pushers.   Just put on a mummy bus why don't you?     Young parents have far too big a sense of entitlement.

Kaffs
Saint posted:
Kaffs posted:
velvet donkey posted:

So you think a wheelchair user and a (young) mum/dad are equal?

 

I don't get it.

me either - and don't start me on parent and kid parking spaces at the front door of a shop.    They can walk.

I read somewhere that if parents were fit enough to have kids they were fit enough to walk across the car park with them, lol

 

However I just don't think its fair to expect a mum with child to get off a bus to allow a wheelchair on.

Why should someone in a wheelchair be given priority?

They don't have to get off.  Just move to another spot on the bus 

FM

I tend not to use public transport

As of 2014 there was an on-going debate explained in my opening statement as to whether wheelchair users should have priority or not.

As of 2014 the space was for wheelchair users - not sure what the law requires now.

However I was wondering what people thought about it - as not all prams n Mams can move due to storage facilities for prams not being a legal requirement on buses.

Saint
Saint posted:
Sprout posted:

So, you don't use public transport (you're priviledged (sp) enough to be able to drive )

 

I do use public transport (Metro and buses) I'm coming at this with maybe a different angle to you? 

Perhaps as I sometimes used buses when I was pushing a wheelchair at work

So then you'd know the problems that wheelchair users face? 

FM

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