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Originally posted by queenshaks:
Out of an awful thing Lightfoot came something really good, am happy for you.

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

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Originally posted by queenshaks:
Out of an awful thing Lightfoot came something really good, am happy for you.

Took me a long time to admit what had happened..
I went to a rape crisis centre about 10 years ago..I never told my parents..

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Originally posted by charmer:

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Originally posted by lightfoot:
I was an unwilling teenage Mum.. way back in the 60's. I was raped by 3 men..one of those men
is the father to my son...BNP why not tell men to keep it in their pants??

blimey luv,
thats awful
it really is
dont know what else to say

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Originally posted by queenshaks:

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

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Originally posted by queenshaks:
Out of an awful thing Lightfoot came something really good, am happy for you.

Took me a long time to admit what had happened..
I went to a rape crisis centre about 10 years ago..I never told my parents..

Did it help you going there? Was it like a weight lifted for you?

It's hard to tell the ones we love.

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

Helped me come to terms.. was hard like reliving it all again.. remember back in the '60s if you cried rape no one believed you..If it hadn't been for a work mate I wouldn't have gone to the doctors.Thing was I was a skinny kid and until it was confirmed at about 6 months I was still skinny.. once the doc, my parents knew I blew out like a balloon..

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Originally posted by queenshaks:

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

Helped me come to terms.. was hard like reliving it all again.. remember back in the '60s if you cried rape no one believed you..If it hadn't been for a work mate I wouldn't have gone to the doctors.Thing was I was a skinny kid and until it was confirmed at about 6 months I was still skinny.. once the doc, my parents knew I blew out like a balloon..

I started showing at 6 and half months too with both my kids.

Amso glad you're mentally in a better place. Bless you

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

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Originally posted by queenshaks:

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

Helped me come to terms.. was hard like reliving it all again.. remember back in the '60s if you cried rape no one believed you..If it hadn't been for a work mate I wouldn't have gone to the doctors.Thing was I was a skinny kid and until it was confirmed at about 6 months I was still skinny.. once the doc, my parents knew I blew out like a balloon..

I started showing at 6 and half months too with both my kids.

Amso glad you're mentally in a better place. Bless you

Thankyou..

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

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Originally posted by queenshaks:

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

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Originally posted by queenshaks:
Out of an awful thing Lightfoot came something really good, am happy for you.

Took me a long time to admit what had happened..
I went to a rape crisis centre about 10 years ago..I never told my parents..

Did it help you going there? Was it like a weight lifted for you?

It's hard to tell the ones we love.

Helped me come to terms.. was hard like reliving it all again.. remember back in the '60s if you cried rape no one believed you..If it hadn't been for a work mate I wouldn't have gone to the doctors.Thing was I was a skinny kid and until it was confirmed at about 6 months I was still skinny.. once the doc, my parents knew I blew out like a balloon..

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Originally posted by Sir HP:

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Originally posted by Darthhoob:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
The housing list allocations policy for each area is usually available from the local authority webpages. My local one adds lots of points for being pregnant or having kids. You also get points for the length of time, upto a year, that you've been on the list. I'm told that you have to say that you've had an irreconcilable breakdown with your family if you're staying with parents to get a leg up after you've had a leg over and are bearing the fruits of it.

have to say, i was offered a 3 bedroom house within 9 months time of applying. course it was in a shitty area, and i was grateful! but i did NOT need a 3 bedroom house. there was only me and and 1 baby.

not like there aren't flats or even smaller houses available. i've seen families of 5 be offered a 2 bed house when i was given a 3 bed...that makes no sense

course i took it, but my council stick you back on the list again if you refuse an offering..but i actually would have prefered somewhere smaller cos i didn't have money/time to decorate

Each council has their own allocations policy (which has to be within certain legal parameters). Anyone in a high demand area who got pregnant to get a council house or HA property would be very foolish indeed as most of them have already moved away from this and others are moving fast. There was also a ruling recently (house of Lords) whereby needs are non cumulative which gives councils even more latitude and means if you are overcrowded and have say a medical need they don't have to give you any higher priority.

Hoobs you'll have got a 3 bedroom 'cos it was in a hard to let area and they'd rather put someone in there than leave it empty.

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Originally posted by karmasab****:

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

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Originally posted by queenshaks:

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

Helped me come to terms.. was hard like reliving it all again.. remember back in the '60s if you cried rape no one believed you..If it hadn't been for a work mate I wouldn't have gone to the doctors.Thing was I was a skinny kid and until it was confirmed at about 6 months I was still skinny.. once the doc, my parents knew I blew out like a balloon..

I started showing at 6 and half months too with both my kids.

Amso glad you're mentally in a better place. Bless you

Thankyou..

God how awful. I'm glad that something so good came from something so bad.

Sometimes it's easier to talk to people that aren't so close to you, no pre judgement or too much emotion.

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Originally posted by karmasab****:
I have known girls that have had babies just to get a council flat and freedom from their parents. i should also add that this doesn't always apply to under 21's. There are actually people who can't wait to get pregnant for the benefits and freedom from having to work. THIS IS TRUE.

Apart from all the nonsense about short skirts and curfews, i don't see quite whats so wrong with the idea. It's not perfect but is the current system??

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

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Originally posted by karmasab****:

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

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Originally posted by queenshaks:

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

Helped me come to terms.. was hard like reliving it all again.. remember back in the '60s if you cried rape no one believed you..If it hadn't been for a work mate I wouldn't have gone to the doctors.Thing was I was a skinny kid and until it was confirmed at about 6 months I was still skinny.. once the doc, my parents knew I blew out like a balloon..

I started showing at 6 and half months too with both my kids.

Amso glad you're mentally in a better place. Bless you

Thankyou..

God how awful. I'm glad that something so good came from something so bad.

Sometimes it's easier to talk to people that aren't so close to you, no pre judgement or too much emotion.

Very true..thanks everyone..

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by *BB*:
I've been watching a series on iPlayer about pregnant young teenage girls around the ages of 14 - 17 years and the series follows them through their pregnancy and afterwards when they have had their babies. What I saw has been nothing like what we are told in the media about what happens. No automatic council house, no nothing in most cases! It was quite an eye-opener for me.

I saw that too,BB.
The girls weren't your stereotypical 'chavette' we are led to believe goes round willingly getting impregnated at 15 so she can have five minutes of fame on Jeremy Kyle.They were ordinary run of the mill tenns from a street in any town.
Any parent under 16 is NOT entitled to benefits..so its the grandparents bear the financial burden in these cases.

Its well worth watching btw.

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Originally posted by lightfoot:

Just changed avator(spell) in case someone recognised my old dog..

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Darthhoob:
what was name of that programme mazzy?

Sorry,hoobs..cant remember.Was on recently tho as part of the teen series on BBC3.

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Originally posted by angelicarwen:

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Originally posted by lightfoot:
I was an unwilling teenage Mum.. way back in the 60's. I was raped by 3 men..one of those men
is the father to my son...BNP why not tell men to keep it in their pants??

Oh my God lightfoot

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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:

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Originally posted by angelicarwen:

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Originally posted by lightfoot:
I was an unwilling teenage Mum.. way back in the 60's. I was raped by 3 men..one of those men
is the father to my son...BNP why not tell men to keep it in their pants??

Oh my God lightfoot

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Originally posted by Antichrist:

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Originally posted by karmasab****:
I have known girls that have had babies just to get a council flat and freedom from their parents. i should also add that this doesn't always apply to under 21's. There are actually people who can't wait to get pregnant for the benefits and freedom from having to work. THIS IS TRUE.

Apart from all the nonsense about short skirts and curfews, i don't see quite whats so wrong with the idea. It's not perfect but is the current system??

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I have to say that while, ethically, both the man and the woman are equally responsible, the consequences fall more heavily on the woman and so for that reason I'd expect them to take more responsibility for themselves at least.

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Originally posted by lightfoot:
I was an unwilling teenage Mum.. way back in the 60's. I was raped by 3 men..one of those men
is the father to my son...BNP why not tell men to keep it in their pants??

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Originally posted by MoFo:

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Originally posted by Antichrist:

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Originally posted by karmasab****:
I have known girls that have had babies just to get a council flat and freedom from their parents. i should also add that this doesn't always apply to under 21's. There are actually people who can't wait to get pregnant for the benefits and freedom from having to work. THIS IS TRUE.

Apart from all the nonsense about short skirts and curfews, i don't see quite whats so wrong with the idea. It's not perfect but is the current system??

Every system has its flaws....but my gawd to throw all young mums into homes just cos a minority exploit the system!?! FFS.

I am shaking my head here, I cant believe some people.

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Originally posted by *BB*:

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Darthhoob:
what was name of that programme mazzy?

Sorry,hoobs..cant remember.Was on recently tho as part of the teen series on BBC3.

It's called Underage and Pregnant. I'm following it on iPlayer as we don't have digital.

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Originally posted by Darthhoob:

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Originally posted by *BB*:

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Darthhoob:
what was name of that programme mazzy?

Sorry,hoobs..cant remember.Was on recently tho as part of the teen series on BBC3.

It's called Underage and Pregnant. I'm following it on iPlayer as we don't have digital.

ty bout to watch it now

and i have to say to the above poster...having a kid was probably the biggest education i ever had. but just cos someone is young doesn't mean they definately need parenting classes. i see plenty of older parents who could benefit from it too.

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Originally posted by pussycatj:

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Originally posted by Darthhoob:

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Originally posted by *BB*:

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Darthhoob:
what was name of that programme mazzy?

Sorry,hoobs..cant remember.Was on recently tho as part of the teen series on BBC3.

It's called Underage and Pregnant. I'm following it on iPlayer as we don't have digital.

ty bout to watch it now

and i have to say to the above poster...having a kid was probably the biggest education i ever had. but just cos someone is young doesn't mean they definately need parenting classes. i see plenty of older parents who could benefit from it too.

Hoobs you are so right. A neighbour of mine has 4 kids. They are all a nightmare, the youngest has been in care for 4 months due to really bad anger problems (she's 12). Every other word out of the parents mouth is an expletive, they are also always fighting etc. Mother decides to go on holiday with a friend, her friends 12 yeard son and his pal. She popped round to mine the other day because she needed something and to tell me she was going away, also told me that she had just had an argument with her daughter, because her daughter wants to go with her (the care home would have allowed her to go) but she told her daughter she needed a break she hasn't had her home for longer than a day in 4 months. I've looked at her fb wall and on it are all pictures of her and her friends son and pal on the beach, cuddling etc. It has made me want to vomit.

The only problems that child has is that the environment she has been brought up in stinks, they have even been sending family councellors to go and work with the family, and they have pretended to be out when they come.

Her eldest daughter (who is claiming the dole) told me that she can't wait to have a baby and get a council house, but she has to wait for the arsehole to get out of prison first.

Sorry for the long post

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Originally posted by Jeggo:
Makes a lot more sense to me than the current set-up. Think I`ll join the BNP.