The Queen may have decided her New Years Honours (or does she?)
But it's more 'relatable' to make our own me thinks
So who should make our "National Treasures" list as an alternative to the Queen's.
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Can we make a LIST OF TEN?
I'd like to propose . . . . Joanna Lumley 
Ruth Jones?
As i had to Google her and she's not really a life long adored actress it may be a 'no'
Hello Roxan nice to see you
So far - this is exciting 
we have
1 Joanna Lumley
2 Davis Attenborough
3 BIGGINS - if thats ok
. . . and not Ruth Jones - cos i don't know much about her and that's that!!
Biggins? Ermmmmm. No. Full stop. No.
Iâll give it some thought ...
....not for me Iâm afraid 
Oh. I know. Emma Willis. Not for Big Brother, or any other TV show ... but for the M&S Christmas ads. I fell a little bit in love with her!!
Baz posted:Snap Rexi
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David Jason
David Attenborough
(goes off to think who is still alive that I treasure)
My mind keeps coming up with one name, which is making me smile at myself...
and the name is............ME!
Syd posted:My mind keeps coming up with one name, which is making me smile at myself...
and the name is............ME!
what you like
I think a National Treasure must be instantly recognisable by the general public.
David Jason - great idea
Why not Biggins?
Baz posted:Gordon Buchanan ....wildlife photographer
Dunno him ... so can he qualify?
Defo not Emma Willis!
How's about Jimmy Tarbuck?
Saint posted:Syd posted:My mind keeps coming up with one name, which is making me smile at myself...
and the name is............ME!
I think a National Treasure must be instantly recognisable by the general public.
David Jason - great idea
Why not Biggins?
To 'Panto' and gets on my nerves.
I agree with Gordon Buchanan and David Jason.
Can we do posthumous ones - then I could nominate the wonderful and much missed Victoria Wood.
Okay then, no to Emma Willis.
Obviously Syd gets my vote, as does .....
oh, I donât know, still thinking ...
Yogi19 posted:I agree with Gordon Buchanan and David Jason.
Can we do posthumous ones - then I could nominate the wonderful and much missed Victoria Wood.
I was pondering that but it's very easy to give posthumous awards - we could go back a long way
So hope everyone is ok with the living?
Is Gordon Buchanan well known enough, do you think?
Guaranteed up to now . . . (with flexibility)
1 Joanna Lumley
2 David Jason
3 David Attenborough
More suggestions:
Gloria Hunniford, Floella Benjamin, Virginia Wade, Trevor McDonald, Michael Palin, Ian McKellan, Ranulph Fiennes
Moonie posted:Sir Michael Edward Palin KCMG, CBE, FRGS
SNAP !!
He's in then
1 Joanna Lumley
2 David Jason
3 David Attenborough
4 Michael Palin
Miora Stewart?
Our criteria :
Someone or something of which a particular country is very proud.
Exceptional qualities, things and people.
Ok..........I have decided.......
I love you lot........add your own names to the list and be done with it....
We can all attend the 'Pinning of the medals'.....
And come back and moan about who was 'pricked' the hardest!
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL!
Syd posted:Ok..........I have decided.......
I love you lot........add your own names to the listand be done with it....
We can all attend the 'Pinning of the medals'.....
And come back and moan about who was 'pricked' the hardest!
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL!
not helping us ?
Stephen Fry !!!!
Jezza Corbyn! We don't want him as our PM (for insane reasons) so can't we have him as a national treasure for being a magic grandpa and a really nice guy?
Posthumously, Rick Mayle, George Micheal both good guys
Danny Dyer - for being a top cocknee geeza
Queen's Brian May - for speaking out for environmental issues and against injustices.
Girl called Jack [Monroe], for being a down to Earth single mother who became famous for her recipes on a shoestring, an outspoken voice against poverty
Prof Brian Cox for being able to articulate complex scientific theories so the layman can understand.
Saint posted:1 Joanna Lumley
2 David Jason
3 David Attenborough
4 Michael Palin
Joanna Lumley pushed the stupid Thames Garden Bridge, costing London taxpayers millions for nothing in return. No thanks!
Rexi posted:Oh. I know. Emma Willis. Not for Big Brother, or any other TV show ... but for the M&S Christmas ads. I fell a little bit in love with her!!
Emma Willis for being sophisticated looking, sexy and having a potty mouth!
Carny - National Treasure is someone people in general take to their hearts.
Corbyn was squashed - by the people.
Here's one . . . .
LESLIE PHILIPS
Saint posted:Carny - National Treasure is someone people in general take to their hearts.
Corbyn was squashed - by the people.
Here's one . . . .
LESLIE PHILIPS
- the people will see the error of their ways one day
How could I have forgotten St Delia of the table-propping-up Canaries!
National Treasure - Letsh be 'avin yous!
Saint posted:Yogi19 posted:I agree with Gordon Buchanan and David Jason.
Can we do posthumous ones - then I could nominate the wonderful and much missed Victoria Wood.
I was pondering that but it's very easy to give posthumous awards - we could go back a long way
So hope everyone is ok with the living?
Is Gordon Buchanan well known enough, do you think?
Iâm okay with the living.
Gordon is well known with those of us who watch wildlife programmes but perhaps not with others.
Carnelian posted:How could I have forgotten St Delia of the table-propping-up Canaries!
National Treasure - Letsh be 'avin yous!
I like Delia
Delia is a good one
Valerie Singleton
Why has no one proffered the name of David Bowie yet. His contribution to music and film along with other branches of the arts. Leaving a legacy which will endure for many centuries, well, not too many if the climate crises proves too much for the human race to endure.!
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Why has no one proffered the name of David Bowie yet. His contribution to music and film along with other branches of the arts. Leaving a legacy which will endure for many centuries, well, not too many if the climate crises proves too much for the human race to endure.!
Has he been taken to the public's hearts and held in affection?
Respected - yes. Held in affection - hmmm?
Moonie posted:John Noakes?
Excellent !!!
More suggestions:
Gloria Hunniford, Floella Benjamin, Virginia Wade, Trevor McDonald?
Judi Dench
Saint posted:Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Why has no one proffered the name of David Bowie yet. His contribution to music and film along with other branches of the arts. Leaving a legacy which will endure for many centuries, well, not too many if the climate crises proves too much for the human race to endure.!
Has he been taken to the public's hearts and held in affection?
Respected - yes. Held in affection - hmmm?
140 Million record sales would suggest he is held in affection by a considerable number of people. 
It's quite hard to really define who and who is not held in the public's affection. A lot of the people who get held up as n.t's are being done so by the press and media, whether people genuinely like them is up for debate, we would need a referendum.
Baz posted:Saint posted:Judi Dench
She is a Yorkshire Woman
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:Judi Dench
She is a Yorkshire Woman
. . . and what criteria is EC using there - hmmm
Saint posted:Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Why has no one proffered the name of David Bowie yet. His contribution to music and film along with other branches of the arts. Leaving a legacy which will endure for many centuries, well, not too many if the climate crises proves too much for the human race to endure.!
Has he been taken to the public's hearts and held in affection?
Respected - yes. Held in affection - hmmm?
Ermmmmm, yes, much affection. Bowie gets in.
as does Carnelianâs suggestion of Jack Munroe ... fabulous lady who has overcome many demons
Baz posted:How about Freddy Mercury ?
Yup ... gets my vote
Rexi posted:Baz posted:How about Freddy Mercury ?
Yup ... gets my vote
Yep
I think to clarify the criteria (I know we have to ruthless)
David Bowie OR Paul McCartney
No question - McCartney cos he's more 'liked' and seen as an institution where as Bowie is too 'alternative'. Is he 'loved' by the Nation or respected?
See my point?
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:Judi Dench
She is a Yorkshire Woman
Judi gets my vote
Saint posted:Rexi posted:Baz posted:How about Freddy Mercury ?
Yup ... gets my vote
Yep
You said they had to be alive
Saint posted:I think to clarify the criteria (I know we have to ruthless)
David Bowie OR Paul McCartney
No question - McCartney cos he's more 'liked' and seen as an institution where as Bowie is too 'alternative'. Is he 'loved' by the Nation or respected?
See my point?
Neither
Vera Lynn <<< this is what i mean
She defines a generation, known by almost everyone, adored by the nation.
Generally seen as an institution in her own right
Oh yeah - no Freddie Mercury - he's ded
Saint, can you confirm whether they need to be alive, because John Noakes and Freddie Mercury are dead. If you are allowing dead people, please can Victoria Wood be included?
Yogi19 posted:Saint, can you confirm whether they need to be alive, because John Noakes and Freddie Mercury are dead. If you are allowing dead people, please can Victoria Wood be included?
Sorry my mistake
Living ... or we could get very historical
Listy time - flexi
1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
We'll have to forgo Bowie if we can't allow McCartney
AND - they have to be instantly recognisable and loved (not successful and admired)
Virginia Wade anyone?
Billy Connolly
1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
7 Billy Connolly
DAVINA ?
Trevor McDonald must have a look in. Yes? No?
Banksy
Vivienne Westwood
Beckham
JK Rowling
Barbara Windsor
Ian McKellan
Hugh Grant - Leslie Philips
Theyâre all a bit ... old, and boring Rents.
How about a bit of Jools ... well, it is new year!?
Rexi posted:Theyâre all a bit ... old, and boring Rents.
How about a bit of Jools ... well, it is new year!?
Love a bit of Jools at New Year, but the Rap is making my ears itch at the moment..............
Syd posted:Rexi posted:Theyâre all a bit ... old, and boring Rents.
How about a bit of Jools ... well, it is new year!?
Love a bit of Jools at New Year, but the Rap is making my ears itch at the moment..............
Yup, thankfully it didnât last long!!
HNY Syd xxx
I am jigging now Rexi..........
Happy New year to you too..........xxx
Rexi posted:Theyâre all a bit ... old, and boring Rents.
How about a bit of Jools ... well, it is new year!?
They have to earned their place in people's affection - i guess that takes time.
National means they must be a household name too.
We could start a new list (in a new thread) for "Nominated" National Treasures BUT that's soooo subjective to never reach an end
1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
7 Billy Connolly
8 Barbara Windsor
Nearly at 10 . . . thought people would like Joanna Lumley and Paul McCartney
1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
7 Billy Connolly
8 Barbara Windsor
9 David Attenborough
. . . and ten?
Baz posted:Saint posted:1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
7 Billy Connolly
8 Barbara Windsor
9 David Attenborough
. . . and ten?
How about Agatha Christie ?
machel posted:I am still thinking! Wouldnât agree with Barbara Windsor, Pam Ayres? Jessica Ennis?
Agatha Christie is dead = no
Pam Ayres is good - hmmm - better than Michael McDonald, Paul McCartney, Jimmy Tarbuck, Gloria Hunniford, Esther Rantzen, Davina?
Saint posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
7 Billy Connolly
8 Barbara Windsor
9 David Attenborough
. . . and ten?
How about Agatha Christie ?
machel posted:I am still thinking! Wouldnât agree with Barbara Windsor, Pam Ayres? Jessica Ennis?
Agatha Christie is dead = no
Pam Ayres is good - hmmm - better than Michael McDonald, Paul McCartney, Jimmy Tarbuck, Gloria Hunniford, Esther Rantzen, Davina?
No one has anybody like Pam, she is different, some of the above are all of the same
Kate Adie.....cos' she's a Mackem ð
Syd posted:Rexi posted:Theyâre all a bit ... old, and boring Rents.
How about a bit of Jools ... well, it is new year!?
Love a bit of Jools at New Year, but the Rap is making my ears itch at the moment..............
The Stereophonics were as boring as ever. Stormzy wasn't as good as his press has led me to believe. Good to see The Selecter (old friends of the show) on again, for a bit of seasonal skank-along Ska.
Moonie posted:Definitely Pam Ayres
We may have to make a top TWELVE
1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
7 Billy Connolly
8 Barbara Windsor
9 David Attenborough
10 Pam Ayres
11 Christopher Biggins
12 Paul McCartney
13 Trevor McDonald
14 Joanna Lumley
15
And one more required . . . it must be someone who is a household name and loved by the public on the whole - so not David Bowie or a politician.
Being respected, successful or a 'giant' in their field is not enough - nor is a currently popular fad - so no Robbie Williams or Emma Willis.
You don't have to 'like' them - only recognise they are home grown, instantly recognisable and raise a smile when mentioned.
And that they represent something quintessentially "British".