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I'm freedom of speech but i'm not Charlie Ebdo

https://apnews.com/article/cha...74cf5ed1ff8e5c4ac0db

"Charlie Hebdo has lampooned dead child migrants, virus victims, dying drug addicts, world leaders, neo-Nazis, popes, bishops, Jewish leaders, and other religious, political and entertainment figures. This week’s issue features a cartoon of the funeral of a beheaded teacher, showing officers carrying two coffins, one for the body, one for the head."

Saint
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I'm freedom of speech but i'm not Charlie Ebdo

https://apnews.com/article/cha...74cf5ed1ff8e5c4ac0db

"Charlie Hebdo has lampooned dead child migrants, virus victims, dying drug addicts, world leaders, neo-Nazis, popes, bishops, Jewish leaders, and other religious, political and entertainment figures. This week’s issue features a cartoon of the funeral of a beheaded teacher, showing officers carrying two coffins, one for the body, one for the head."

I'm with you on this Saint. I really think the French state projecting Charlie Hebdo cartoons onto the sides of public buildings is not the way to go.  Those cartoons are provocative and deliberately offensive.  "je ne suis Charlie".  One cartoon they projected onto a public building showed the Bible, Tora and Quran as three rolls of toilet paper, and showed such disrespect to people of faith.  I know that France has traditionally prided itself on its secularism but there's secularism then there's just shoving your disdain for religion into people's faces. 

I am not religious myself and I do think every person has the right to critique religions but with rights come responsibilities.  I don't think it's a state's role to ram secularism down everyone's throat and such state-sponsored vilification of religions is reminiscent of the 3rd Riech.

Carnelian
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I'm with you on this Saint. I really think the French state projecting Charlie Hebdo cartoons onto the sides of public buildings is not the way to go.  Those cartoons are provocative and deliberately offensive.  "je ne suis Charlie".  One cartoon they projected onto a public building showed the Bible, Tora and Quran as three rolls of toilet paper, and showed such disrespect to people of faith.  I know that France has traditionally prided itself on its secularism but there's secularism then there's just shoving your disdain for religion into people's faces.

I am not religious myself and I do think every person has the right to critique religions but with rights come responsibilities.  I don't think it's a state's role to ram secularism down everyone's throat and such state-sponsored vilification of religions is reminiscent of the 3rd Riech.

Dunno if it's "state sponsored" more like state tolerated or state protected/justified in the name of "freedom of speech".

In the UK it would probably come under outraging public decency. There is freedom and there is provoking a response which is what Charlie Ebdo are saying they do. Provoke to reveal intolerance to France's freedom.

That's a very dangerous game and Macron has put everyone in France at risk when he chose to stand by them

Saint
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Patreon Some are for people to continue bringing you valuable content of them driving Ferraris through the Alps. We pay them to drive around while we watch The madness of the modern era

https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ The cheek !!

I'm both pro and against this post. Pro, in the sense that some people are just looking for a free lunch, but against because there are some who offer well produced, high quality videos. The person I would say does this well is Techmoan. Yes, his material is a few steps away from the mainstream, but he has a lot of Patreon supporters. I pay nothing but still enjoy his videos.

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I'm both pro and against this post. Pro, in the sense that some people are just looking for a free lunch, but against because there are some who offer well produced, high quality videos. The person I would say does this well is Techmoan. Yes, his material is a few steps away from the mainstream, but he has a lot of Patreon supporters. I pay nothing but still enjoy his videos.

I watch Techmoan. I like his content but I'm a nerd anyway.  I like that he's around my age going through tech of the present and past tech with his grounding in the 1980s.  I've learned a lot about past audio-visual tech from his videos and like his relaxed style.  I'm not too interested in the present tech videos.  I also pay nothing but enjoy his videos!



I also watch videos by Paul McGowan of PS Audio.  Although the audio is well beyond my budget I like his chilled out friendly old guy style.  He knows his stuff and presents his subject from both the money no object audiophile obsessive to bog-standard mainstream consumers' points of view.

Carnelian
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Disgraceful Gateshead Council once again shamelessly self promoting it's own interests by using Remembrance Day to place a poppy on the ludicrously named "Angel" of the North.

This unrequested vanity project is like placing a fairy on top of a tacky Xmas tree - they can't sweep our streets but admit to "Investing heavily" in cultural projects no one wanted.

Saint

God loves a trier but not when they're hopelessly in over their head and should know better.

Cue Gateshead Council (again) who has decided to spend Β£260m developing the "riverside" into an exhibition and visitors centre. The leader of the council said, "When you think of visitor centres you think of Sidney Harbour or San Francisco and now you'll think of Gateshead"

Even he said that with a smirk  .... what a twit.

Saint
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God loves a trier but not when they're hopelessly in over their head and should know better.

Cue Gateshead Council (again) who has decided to spend Β£260m developing the "riverside" into an exhibition and visitors centre. The leader of the council said, "When you think of visitor centres you think of Sidney Harbour or San Francisco and now you'll think of Gateshead"

Even he said that with a smirk  .... what a twit.

Not quite got the same ring , has it Renton

Baz

It's laughable and annoying - do they really expect us to believe that nonsense.

I guarantee they're furious that daft sculpture is not called the Gateshead Angel - and what's an angel got to do with the north east. Even Anthony Gormless said it never had the intention of being seen that way. So it's a purposeless vanity project and cost us Β£1m

Saint