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Why do people insist on believing that "People are not inherently bad"?

We can accept people are naturally gifted.

Naturally athletic, muscular, musical, good with their hands.

Some people are naturally more energetic, outspoken, fast learners.

Why can't people be naturally more aggressive, angry ... bad?

I have read from studies on criminality that some serial offenders continued their crimes because they simply enjoyed it.

Saint

Clothes designing is a serious business - listen to this from AH Studio, London,

 

"AH Studio is designed for the accomplished woman who is comfortable with her identity as well as her sexuality. His bold pieces each hold their own personality and story and therefore require a woman who is not only confident but also courageous to carry them."  

 

Needless to say the models look like oven ready chickens 

Saint
Saint posted:

Why do people insist on believing that "People are not inherently bad"?

We can accept people are naturally gifted.

Naturally athletic, muscular, musical, good with their hands.

Some people are naturally more energetic, outspoken, fast learners.

Why can't people be naturally more aggressive, angry ... bad?

I have read from studies on criminality that some serial offenders continued their crimes because they simply enjoyed it.

 

Nature or Nurture.

 

 

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Carnelian posted:

The extinction of good old fashioned DVD/BluRay hire stores.  I far preferred going to the local video hire stores and looking at the selection video hires than now having to chuck my money at monopolistic corporate streaming giants like Amazon and Netflix

Amen to that - I have a Blockbusters key ring 

It brought like minded people together,

"Where you going?"

"To Blockbuster, wanna come?" and off we'd travel to the blue shop of wonder on Friday night.

Now nothing means so much cos it's too easily available

 

Saint

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/enter...miR2Z&ocid=ientp

Ant nearly died, apparently from addiction to painkiller!!  Hmmmm

And he's apologised for letting everyone down. Down from what - if you're in pain we all understand.

He wants to thank everyone for their help and understanding. Really - what do we need to understand from pain = pain relief.

 

There's more to this

It wasn't pain killers, was it - or why are you apologising?

My mum has had two knee replacements and a hip replacement and a massive stomach operation, that my friend is pain - and she's a pensioner and she came through it fine.

So stop treating him like a War Hero. I think we know what he has to apologise for, yeah?

Saint

What  is it with Ariel liquid Tabs (stupid name) and child safety??

They seem to be selling them on the basis they come in a clicky lid box and therefore Protor & Gamble combat child welfare risks.

Anything can be sold on this basis

Dairylea care about cheese AND your child - that's why they're ruddy impossible to get into. Thank you

Buy Dairylea - we really care.

Saint
Saint posted:

What  is it with Ariel liquid Tabs (stupid name) and child safety??

They seem to be selling them on the basis they come in a clicky lid box and therefore Protor & Gamble combat child welfare risks.

Anything can be sold on this basis

Dairylea care about cheese AND your child - that's why they're ruddy impossible to get into. Thank you

Buy Dairylea - we really care.

That made me RL lol 

Yogi19

People who lean on grocery trolleys so have no control over them 

People who lean on grocery trolleys and look down isles thus not see you infront of them and running you down 

People who with grocery trolleys who go to turn into isles then change their mind and run into you when you are trying to get past them 

 

I could go on but you get my drift? 

 

 and one final one...

People with grocery trolleys who congregate in isles three abreast so you can't  get past 

 

*Feels better now 

Moonie
Moonie posted:

People who lean on grocery trolleys so have no control over them 

People who lean on grocery trolleys and look down isles thus not see you infront of them and running you down 

People who with grocery trolleys who go to turn into isles then change their mind and run into you when you are trying to get past them 

 

I could go on but you get my drift? 

 

 and one final one...

People with grocery trolleys who congregate in isles three abreast so you can't  get past 

 

*Feels better now 

I agree with all those 

Baz
Baz posted:
Moonie posted:

People who lean on grocery trolleys so have no control over them 

People who lean on grocery trolleys and look down isles thus not see you infront of them and running you down 

People who with grocery trolleys who go to turn into isles then change their mind and run into you when you are trying to get past them 

 

I could go on but you get my drift? 

 

 and one final one...

People with grocery trolleys who congregate in isles three abreast so you can't  get past 

 

*Feels better now 

I agree with all those 

 

Moonie
Moonie posted:

People who lean on grocery trolleys so have no control over them 

People who lean on grocery trolleys and look down isles thus not see you infront of them and running you down 

People who with grocery trolleys who go to turn into isles then change their mind and run into you when you are trying to get past them 

 

I could go on but you get my drift? 

 

 and one final one...

People with grocery trolleys who congregate in isles three abreast so you can't  get past 

 

*Feels better now 

I can relate to all of that, Moonie.

Yogi19
Moonie posted:

People who lean on grocery trolleys so have no control over them 

People who lean on grocery trolleys and look down isles thus not see you infront of them and running you down 

People who with grocery trolleys who go to turn into isles then change their mind and run into you when you are trying to get past them 

 

 

 

Right, I am seeing a pattern here.

 

...give me a minute and I'll get it.

 

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Moonie posted:

People who lean on grocery trolleys so have no control over them 

People who lean on grocery trolleys and look down isles thus not see you infront of them and running you down 

People who with grocery trolleys who go to turn into isles then change their mind and run into you when you are trying to get past them 

 

 

 

Right, I am seeing a pattern here.

 

...give me a minute and I'll get it.

 

One minute and counting

Moonie
Moonie posted:
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Moonie posted:

People who lean on grocery trolleys so have no control over them 

People who lean on grocery trolleys and look down isles thus not see you infront of them and running you down 

People who with grocery trolleys who go to turn into isles then change their mind and run into you when you are trying to get past them 

 

 

 

Right, I am seeing a pattern here.

 

...give me a minute and I'll get it.

 

One minute and counting

You like the words Trolley and Grocery. 

 

Hiya Moonie 

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Moonie posted:
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Moonie posted:

People who lean on grocery trolleys so have no control over them 

People who lean on grocery trolleys and look down isles thus not see you infront of them and running you down 

People who with grocery trolleys who go to turn into isles then change their mind and run into you when you are trying to get past them 

 

 

 

Right, I am seeing a pattern here.

 

...give me a minute and I'll get it.

 

One minute and counting

You like the words Trolley and Grocery. 

 

Hiya Moonie 

Correct

Hiya EC

Moonie

Fascinating programme on now

HORIZON - What makes a psychopath

Kinda reinforces what I've argued all along - people can be 'naturally evil'

Scientists and behaviourist on this prog are arguing the brain (genetically) and it's activity are different in those with psychopathic traits.

All therapies have failed to alter the behaviour.

As an example - they have all the ingredients to make a fire and it takes very little within the environment to start the fire.

 

Saint
Saint posted:

Fascinating programme on now

HORIZON - What makes a psychopath

Kinda reinforces what I've argued all along - people can be 'naturally evil'

Scientists and behaviourist on this prog are arguing the brain (genetically) and it's activity are different in those with psychopathic traits.

All therapies have failed to alter the behaviour.

As an example - they have all the ingredients to make a fire and it takes very little within the environment to start the fire.

 

 I watched that too

Yogi19

A very upfront and refreshingly honest insight

The prog said many of the behaviours were not learned rather learning from others was the difficulty - the psychopath struggled to understand/empathise and often similar traits could be seen in family members

Also, many carried out their antisocial behaviour quite simply because they liked it

Saint
Saint posted:

A very upfront and refreshingly honest insight

The prog said many of the behaviours were not learned rather learning from others was the difficulty - the psychopath struggled to understand/empathise and often similar traits could be seen in family members

Also, many carried out their antisocial behaviour quite simply because they liked it

 

Yogi19

 

I have just watched a programme on Channel 5 about 'Trolling'. Frankie Bridge along with a team have traced one particular sick individual and turned up at his home with the intention of interviewing him and putting him in front of the person he has trolled.

 

This was less than successful as the guy ran off into his flat.

 

But what got me thinking is that following this programme there is one called Celebrity Botched Up Bodies. I wonder if Channel 5 see the irony of this?

 

 

 

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Yogi19 posted:
Saint posted:

Father's birthday today so went out for a lovely outdoor meal - to a place we occasionally frequent

It was all but empty

None the less we waited almost an hour for our meal !!!!

 

Shame you had to wait so long but I hope the food was good when it arrived. Happy Birthday to your dad.

I second that ....happy birthday daddy Renton 

Baz

I think I may make a new thread called FAKE NEWS

Everything is hyped to make a kinda relevant yet dull story kinda sensational - if not epic.

 

Want an example? ok then ... recent headlines that caught my eye.

"Have you noticed the lack of insects stuck to your car?" ... about the lack of insects this year.

"Expect an influx of insects into your home as the cold snap begins"

Hold on a minute!!! You can't  have it both ways!!!

 

Foxes in bedrooms - now zero foxes go there - apparently

AND ... we're all going to die - didn't you know - yep

Aids ... well not really erm ....

SARS ... nope ...

Bird Flu - Ebola - The Plague. All were to end humanity

Guess what - it didn''t

Humans are bloody idiots

 

Saint
Saint posted:

I think I may make a new thread called FAKE NEWS

Everything is hyped to make a kinda relevant yet dull story kinda sensational - if not epic.

 

Want an example? ok then ... recent headlines that caught my eye.

"Have you noticed the lack of insects stuck to your car?" ... about the lack of insects this year.

"Expect an influx of insects into your home as the cold snap begins"

Hold on a minute!!! You can't  have it both ways!!!

 

Foxes in bedrooms - now zero foxes go there - apparently

AND ... we're all going to die - didn't you know - yep

Aids ... well not really erm ....

SARS ... nope ...

Bird Flu - Ebola - The Plague. All were to end humanity

Guess what - it didn''t

Humans are bloody idiots

 

 

Baz

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