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Kevin was far nastier than Shabby was about Sunshine, Shabby even had a word with her about it once at the kitchen table...and yes, Kewl Kevin called SS an effing whore.  For the crime of not being cool I suppose, unlike Kevin whose friends are all cool and only hangs about with cool people and would never dance in way that wasn't cool...certainly not cringey.

We should all start wearing our sunglasses indoors, at night, then maybe we can be cool too.
Leccy
Kevin was far nastier than Shabby was about Sunshine, Shabby even had a word with her about it once at the kitchen table...and yes, Kewl Kevin called SS an effing whore.  For the crime of not being cool I suppose, unlike Kevin whose friends are all cool and only hangs about with cool people and would never dance in way that wasn't cool...certainly not cringey.

We should all start wearing our sunglasses indoors, at night, then maybe we can be cool too.
Leccy
Reference Cold Sweat Today at 21:28:
 I thought the context was somewhat different; something along the lines of i could call Sunshine a .......
She was giving examples of what she could say to Sunshine if she was to tell her how she really felt to her face. It was hardly a joke though - just another feeble excuse to be nasty.
Eugene's Lair
The way I see it, Queefer is a follower, with a nasty mouth.
She thinks Shabby hates someone, she gets nasty with them.

Meanwhile Shabby uses her dominance and everyone's fear of her ridiculous tantrums, to lead her followers into hate campaigns.
Then she will sit back and point out how unfair her henchwomen have been to the intended target. Out comes the 'I hate unfairness, bullying, injustice' Shabby

You could actually see the confusion on Queefer's face, whenever Shabby pulled her up on her behaviour towards others.

As for Ife? Yes, she joined the Raging Dolls, but she did stand up for people like Sunshine, she did point out that she wanted to mix with others, and she had every right to get annoyed by their 'cringe' insults. No way were they 'messing', or joking. Just belittling their 'friend'.
Blizz'ard
Reference:blizz
The way I see it, Queefer is a follower, with a nasty mouth. She thinks Shabby hates someone, she gets nasty with them. Meanwhile Shabby uses her dominance and everyone's fear of her ridiculous tantrums, to lead her followers into hate campaigns. Then she will sit back and point out how unfair her henchwomen have been to the intended target. Out comes the 'I hate unfairness, bullying, injustice' Shabby You could actually see the confusion on Queefer's face, whenever Shabby pulled her up on her behaviour towards others. As for Ife? Yes, she joined the Raging Dolls, but she did stand up for people like Sunshine, she did point out that she wanted to mix with others, and she had every right to get annoyed by their 'cringe' insults. No way were they 'messing', or joking. Just belittling their 'friend'.
 especially when Shabby was giving her lectures about being mean to others.
suzybean
Reference Blizzie Yesterday at 23:14:
As for Ife? Yes, she joined the Raging Dolls, but she did stand up for people like Sunshine,
Did she? Sorry, but from what I saw, she was probably the HM who was the second most consistently-critical of Sunshine (after Caoimhe). Indeed, during "Crispgate", it felt at times like Ife and Caoimhe were operating as a "tag-team". Every night I switched on LF, there was Ife going on and on to Mario about how much of an attention-seeker Sunshine was, with Caoimhe by her side, nodding in agreement. (The "attention-seeker" accusations seem particularly ridiculous now, after watching Ife perform her dance audition to Tina Turner. )


And when she wasn't banging on about Sunshine's attention-seeking, Ife was going on again and again about "crispgate", and how Sunshine had made her feel "that" small. Although it wasn't shown on HLs, she brought it up again the Monday after, reducing Sunshine to tears. And afterwards, just for good measure, she speculated (again in front of Mario, and again with Caoimhe nodding in the background) about whether Sunshine really had an eating disorder at all. Funnily enough, the person who defended Sunshine that time was Shabby...
Eugene's Lair
I'm talking about way before Crispgate, Eugene. She would often tell the other two that they need to listen to Sunshine more and try to understand her.

As for Crispgate, most of them got a bit annoyed about that, and I'm not defending her behaviour in all that, but she was hardly nasty to Sunshine, just embarrassed at the reaction she got from Sunshine.

She's far from my favourite, but she's not the bitch that everyone seems to think she is.
Blizz'ard
Reference Blizzie Today at 03:57:
 I'm talking about way before Crispgate, Eugene. She would often tell the other two that they need to listen to Sunshine more and try to understand her.
As for Crispgate, most of them got a bit annoyed about that, and I'm not defending her behaviour in all that, but she was hardly nasty to Sunshine, just embarrassed at the reaction she got from Sunshine. She's far from my favourite, but she's not the bitch that everyone seems to think she is.
The point about Ife's reaction to crispgate was that it drew into question all her previous comments. Ife herself said (e.g. when questioning Sunshine's eating disorder) that she'd been suspicious of Sunshine's motives from the beginning. Ife may have talked the talk, but I saw no evidence that she'd actually tried to understand Sunshine at all.


I'm not sure if they were prompted by things she heard inside the house or immediately after leaving it, but Sunshine's press conference comments about Ife "being a bit two-faced" suggest a dawning realization that Ife has not had her best interests at heart.


As for bitching: well, she seemed to slip very quickly and easily into Govan's vacated role. And what about the sessions, night after night, when she continually tried to turn Mario against Sunshine? She may not have had the vitriol of Caoimhe, but it was all still very unpleasant.
Eugene's Lair
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especially when Shabby was giving her lectures about being mean to others
Shabby has a problem with being consistant, for example on BBLB yesterday, she was asked a question and first answered it one way then contradicted herself and said the complete opposite. She stirs things then sits back and complains that someone has taken her at her word.
She has got so used to having tantrums over ridiculous things that she is oblivious to the effects it has on others.
I got so tired of her telling people she has a temper problem but never trying to control it but why should she bother as  it was her way of controlling everyone and then complains about the fall-out.
Blackpudlian

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