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me I love it, but I would say that, but I did prefer the standing days. I promise not to cry if you don't like it.

HI PB it was great with terraces, definately a better atmosphere. I think it's got a little romantisised though. There were plenty of games which you missed most of the action due to the swaying of the crowds, kids on shoulders etc. I remember going to Main Road, i hardly saw a thing. I don't mind seating as just love watching football. Ok yes, the atmos was great, more comraderie etc. But i've accepted it now and still enjoy it
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Mazzystar 3397 Forum PostsToday at 16:15 (Edited: ) Reference: have you two quite finished ? as for rzb's pessimism...a pessimist is just an very experienced optimist. I should know..i follow Bury. Does that mean the wedding's off???*sobs*
i'm afraid so chuck. The Priest won't let us wear our boots, something about them being inappropriate for the sanctity of a marriage ceremony
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I don't know if I would have felt safe taking my kids if it wasn't seats, not because of trouble, it more about them getting to see the game, I stood until the very end of standing at WHL, we were allowed to stand long after the rest of the ground became all seated .
I'm only short..so I used to just flatter my eyelashes and smile sweetly at people til they let me through!
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At least with the introduction of all seating stadia, we lost the bloody awful cages and to be fair, it has made grounds a lot safer to be in so to lose a little atmosphere against losing your life, well the atmosphere any day to be honest, enough fans lost their lives at Hillsborough and Valley Parade and Ibrox really, though I know Valley Parade was a fire, it was still a terrible loss of life.
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Interesting at some of the German grounds where the standing areas can be converted into seats or vice versa. For example the Westfalen stadion (in old money, it's now sponsored by some firm or other) you can go to a League match and stand and drink for a small amount of cash. 80,000 plus capacity, my favourite ground anywhere. Should anyone want to watch a game under other rules the capacity is reduced to 60k plus.
Garage Joe
Liverpoolfc.tv/news

DUO UP FOR WORLD PLAYER OF YEAR


Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres were today named among the contenders for FIFA World Player of the Year 2009.
The pair join six other Barclays Premier League stars on the 23-man shortlist.
 
Injury has proved a disruption for Gerrard and Torres this year, though both played key parts as Liverpool mounted their best title challenge since 1990.
 
Both players have also helped their countries qualify for South Africa 2010.
 
FIFA will announce the names of the five players who have received most votes from national coaches and captains at the beginning of December.
 
The overall winner will then be named on December 19.
 
The full shortlist is: Michael Ballack (Germany), Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Iker Casillas (Spain), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Diego (Brazil), Didier Drogba (CÃīte d'Ivoire), Michael Essien (Ghana), Samuel Eto'o (Cameroon), Steven Gerrard (England), Thierry Henry (France), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden), AndrÃĐs Iniesta (Spain), KakÃĄ (Brazil), Frank Lampard (England), Luis Fabiano (Brazil), Lionel Messi (Argentina), Carles Puyol (Spain), Franck RibÃĐry (France), Wayne Rooney (England), John Terry (England), Fernando Torres (Spain), David Villa (Spain) and Xavi (Spain).

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Then, in either 1993 or 1994, the opening game of the season was already under way when I noticed Didi and his sidekick weren’t there. When I asked my brother, he lowered his voice and said: “They are now sitting.” The people around us nodded their heads in that sad, knowing way, and I understood. Didi was as good as dead.

Because that’s the way things are at Dortmund. Not standing means you’re an outsider whose existence is only grudgingly acknowledged, practically in the same class as an opposing fan. If you think that’s an exaggeration, go to a game and listen to the people on the terrace insult the seating areas. The reason for their annoyance may be a song the sitters can’t relate to or the other stands’ failure to participate in the Mexican wave. In response to such taunts, fans in the main stands will rise from their seats and give the finger (some are known to show their bums) to the terraces. Minutes may pass before the quarrelling parties, who are, after all, wearing the same col­ours, calm down again and turn  their attention back to the game.

Dortmund is, admittedly, an extreme case. When the club rebuilt their stadium three years ago, they ignored all modern trends by actually enlarging the main standing area, the South Stand, to a capacity of 25,000 – which means it is now the largest terrace in Europe. However, other German clubs also feel the same way. Even the spanking, shiny new dome being built by Schalke 04 will have standing room for some 17,000 people. “
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