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David Cameron has held crisis talks at Downing Street after being told of allegations of a sensational love affair which has potentially significant political implications for him.
For legal reasons, The Mail on Sunday cannot disclose the identities of the people involved or any details of the relationship – even its duration – other than that they are middle-aged figures. The affair has now concluded.
But this newspaper can report that when aides told Mr Cameron the identities of the alleged lovers he was ‘stunned’, and, according to sources, ‘immediately realised the importance of the story’.
The Prime Minister and his aides also discussed the possible fallout should details of the affair become public – and how such disclosure could ‘blow out of the water’ any major political set pieces planned by No 10.
One senior source told this newspaper last night: ‘This revelation is dynamite. None of us could believe it when we first heard it. Then we just thought, “What a complete mess
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I wonder if it's same sex affair and that's why it will have major fallout.
Hague and mystery person
Heard about this earlier. Don't know what to think, any combination in the Cabinet sounds quite sick 
Originally Posted by erinp:
I wonder if it's same sex affair and that's why it will have major fallout.
Hague and mystery person
Whoever it is and between who I can't wait to hear about this one! Move over Nigel Evans! (unless it is him).
There have been many stories involving Hague, but who cares? whatever the story, I put it down to the current power struggle in the Tory Party. One expects an eventual surge to the right.
Oh no. I know the MP's like a bit of pussy, but I really hope Larry wasn't involved. 
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
There have been many stories involving Hague, but who cares? whatever the story, I put it down to the current power struggle in the Tory Party. One expects an eventual surge to the right.
The tide has already surged Carport. Much as I hate to say it, Cameron will be one to turn out to be one of the good guys.
I assume so. Private Eye has already made him out to be the new John Major.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I assume so. Private Eye has already made him out to be the new John Major.
Bog help us then.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I assume so. Private Eye has already made him out to be the new John Major.
NO! I still have mental scars of him doing Edwina Currie 
Oh come on Cinds! What red blooded English male would not have a crack at the delightful, fragrant, Ms Currie?
Newsflash. 3 Peers are being investigated about taking cash for questions. 
It's like bloody groundhog day. 
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Are we all listening to R5?
Guido Fawkes's twitter has named names allegedly
Had a look on Ickes forum and some interesting opinions on why Cable could be named .
Can't wait to find out though. Bet Notting Hill is ablaze tonight. Might canvass my little Parliamentary annex of Kennington in the morning, see how the land lays lol
It appears that two middle aged cabinet ministers (both married) have been shagging each other. The affair has now ended. The Daily Mail has the story and knows the names but cannot print them for “legal reasons.” Call Me Dave is said to be shit scared as this is explosive and will apparently blow him off course. Er …what course?
Given that the Cabinet contains a good few closet homosexuals we should not assume that this affair involves any women. A few of the Cabinet, like Sir George Young, are too old to be runners and riders in the great Downing Street sex scandal. But elsewhere who knows?
Cash for questions, back to basics sex scandals it is right back to 1995…all we need now is a new single from Oasis and a battle with the next release from Blur.
Not seeing this story on the BBC site - you would have thought crisis talks at No.10 would get reported.
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Newsflash. 3 Peers are being investigated about taking cash for questions.
It's like bloody groundhog day.
So! R5 now say that it could bring down the government.
Originally Posted by Cold Sweat:
Not seeing this story on the BBC site - you would have thought crisis talks at No.10 would get reported.
The beeb will be covering all their arses, so to speak, before they make a comment. Anyone watching Sky News?
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by Cold Sweat:
Not seeing this story on the BBC site - you would have thought crisis talks at No.10 would get reported.
The beeb will be covering all their arses, so to speak, before they make a comment. Anyone watching Sky News?
Scrub that. There's an item about seals atm.
I'm not a big fan of destabilisation. I hope Cameron survives. We can always vote 'em out democratic like.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I'm not a big fan of destabilisation. I hope Cameron survives. We can always vote 'em out democratic like.
Agreed in this instance. Maybe I'm becoming an official old fart! 
Seems its 2 Labour peers and 1 Tory peer. Un-named atm.
ohhh, this must have been about the Times ! http://www.guardian.co.uk/medi...-national-newspapers
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
McKenzie, Cunningham and an Ulster Unionist have been named I think Xochi
Alwways thought Clegg was well turned out and Cameron's quiff ... well now 
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
ohhh, this must have been about the Times ! http://www.guardian.co.uk/medi...-national-newspapers
Thanks Slinkeh. That's a well mediated report as you'd expect from Greenslade.
The "crisis" wasn't mentioned on Sky News...I thought it would be top story but Turkey was - can't see mention of it on Sky's website either. Has the story been shut down
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
The "crisis" wasn't mentioned on Sky News...I thought it would be top story but Turkey was - can't see mention of it on Sky's website either. Has the story been shut down
Must be Yella. So wrong constitutionally. Hopefully there'll be an examination about this.
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
The "crisis" wasn't mentioned on Sky News...I thought it would be top story but Turkey was - can't see mention of it on Sky's website either. Has the story been shut down
Must be Yella. So wrong constitutionally. Hopefully there'll be an examination about this.
Normally they'd jump at the chance of making this headline news, strange.
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Are we all listening to R5?
Of course it begs the question (apparently) that if you had to cop off with an MP - which wud it be?
It's Boris and George Osborne.
Now I know who the real Boris bike is.
Originally Posted by erinp:
I wonder if it's cross party affair.
Swapping info about the otherone's party?
Lets hope thats all their swapping. 
I may be being a bit thick here but what has who anyone sleeps with got to do with the price of fish unless it is kiddy fiddling stuff again.. how does that affect how you do your job?
unless it is someone preaching fidelity and being pious and the affair is between marrieds/long term partners I can't see why it needs a crisis meeting.. in fact I really don't want to know who anyone is sleeping with at all... can't compute how it affects their work. 
Remember Profumo ... affairs can compromise.
that was cold war days.... he was swapping secrets with prossies and the reds via pillow talk... the gist of this thread seemed to be about two MP's from the same country banging each other... unless I got it wrong..
Originally Posted by Jenstar:
I think it is two married people olly, which IMO casts a shadow on how trustworthy they are.
Nope still not getting why it is such a fuss to make. .it's not like any of us are in or are going to have a relationship with them are we? to me that's the only time I think knowing people have or are prone to have affairs is of any importance... ie will they do the dirty on me too..
it may make me see their character a bit different, not so much if it is same sex affair and they have different sex partners cos that is a half in half out of the closet situation which is still not as open and as accepted as we like to think it is especially in public servants, hence the muddling of sexual partners.. but still not owt to do with how they perform their job.. it's not unknown for those in power to be into all sorts of sex games as well as putting it about a lot with same sex or opposite sex or just sex of any kind. . still got nothing to do with their job unless they are spending more time in the sack than they are on their paid for jobs.. or preaching one thing and practising another
Agree - makes a lot of outragous claims
which i wud never do
Hmm i dunno - its quite derogatory to them as people.
Calling her a whore, hooker, harlot.
Is its ok to link that?
Originally Posted by Saint:
Hmm i dunno - its quite derogatory to them as people.
Calling her a whore, hooker, harlot. I don;t think its ok to link that.
Thanx, i hadn't listened to it just checked it wasn't a redirect etc. ~Having listened to it his language within the first couple of seconds has got it removed
Unless the identities of the people in the affair becomes public knowledge in the newspapers or on television, it's safer not to speculate as to who they might be. No-one wants to risk getting sued for libel. That is another reason why that post with the link needed to be removed.
Why are people making references to Hague? the newspaper alleges that it involves nobody who is servig in the cabinet ?
Theresa may with Avva Banana.
Just to be clear, it's definitely not them. 
I'm intrigued as to why this story isn't on the News if it's a "crisis" - don't know about the Press as I don't buy papers. I know that a D Notice can be issued to the media to prevent them talking about certain information but the Notice is issued by the DoD if it concerns national security. But allegedly this is just about an affair so why is the media not discussing it, it's hardly the first time that's come to the public's attention.
Originally Posted by casiopea49:
Why are people making references to Hague? the newspaper alleges that it involves nobody who is servig in the cabinet ?
Very good point, but an easily-forgotten one, it would appear.
It also raises questions as to how genuinely significant this "scandal" is, and why it could "blow Cameron's political agenda out of the water"...
if a super injunction is in place, we'll probably never get to the bottom of this
Originally Posted by Eugene's Lair:
Originally Posted by casiopea49:
Why are people making references to Hague? the newspaper alleges that it involves nobody who is servig in the cabinet ?
Very good point, but an easily-forgotten one, it would appear.
It also raises questions as to how genuinely significant this "scandal" is, and why it could "blow Cameron's political agenda out of the water"...
Originally Posted by casiopea49:
Originally Posted by Eugene's Lair:Too true ! and lets face it these day sex scandals ruin careers they don't bring down governments, not British or U S ones anyhow! It is obvious that if the M o S knows who what and when so do all the others..this way they hit the button first without turning the lights on! tiresome press ploy and sadly once again people get hooked and the facts are distorted and ommited throughpersonal prejudices and the momentum is created !........ Hyperbole!
Originally Posted by casiopea49:
Why are people making references to Hague? the newspaper alleges that it involves nobody who is servig in the cabinet ?
Very good point, but an easily-forgotten one, it would appear.
It also raises questions as to how genuinely significant this "scandal" is, and why it could "blow Cameron's political agenda out of the water"...
I was reading a story a couple of days ago where Andy Coulson was pushing for Samantha Cameron to be given a position as an advisor to PM.
He must really think highly of her...
I do hope it comes out soon...Id love to see this government crash out of office.
Why? And be replaced with what?
No one has a credible alternative.
I couldn't care less who's in office (within reason) so long as they do good for the country.
I still think it's all about some sort of fratricidal war going on behind the scenes. I know that we shouldn't interfere when our enemies make mistakes, but if Cameron falls he won't be replaced by anything but a more right wing loon.
People think it's bad now, but it can be worse. Ask my Mum's generation.
Originally Posted by Saint:
Why? And be replaced with what?
No one has a credible alternative.
I couldn't care less who's in office (within reason) so long as they do good for the country.
A govt that doesnt expect the poor and vulnerable,sick and disabled to pay for the mistakes of the rich
Sadly i don;t think Labour have much room for significant alternatives
Labour aren't far removed from Cameron at the moment. I've been looking through the applications for our seat and the candidates are all rather bland and inoffensive.
Originally Posted by Amythist:
Originally Posted by Saint:
Why? And be replaced with what?
No one has a credible alternative.
I couldn't care less who's in office (within reason) so long as they do good for the country.
A govt that doesnt expect the poor and vulnerable,sick and disabled to pay for the mistakes of the rich
Amen to that Amythist 
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I still think it's all about some sort of fratricidal war going on behind the scenes. I know that we shouldn't interfere when our enemies make mistakes, but if Cameron falls he won't be replaced by anything but a more right wing loon. People think it's bad now, but it can be worse. Ask my Mum's generation.
Originally Posted by Amythist:
Originally Posted by Saint:
Why? And be replaced with what?
No one has a credible alternative.
I couldn't care less who's in office (within reason) so long as they do good for the country.
A govt that doesnt expect the poor and vulnerable,sick and disabled to pay for the mistakes of the rich
I can't work the link. Please give me a synopsis!
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I can't work the link. Please give me a synopsis!
At least 30 Conservative MPs have signed letters calling for a vote of no confidence in David Cameron's leadership, a leading backbench rebel has said.
Speaking on condition of anonymity, the MP - who is believed to have signed one of those letters - told the Huffington Post UK that the number of signers is "into the 30s now".
Some 46 letters would need to be signed for a no confidence vote to be held.
As the HuffPost UK's Ned Simons reported in May: "Under Conservative Party rules a leadership election is triggered if 15% of Conservative MPs call for a no confidence vote in the leader. They do this by sending letters to the chairman of the party's backbench 1922 committee - currently Graham Brady.
"There are currently 304 Tory MPs in the Commons, so 46 of them would need to want to get rid of Cameron for a no confidence vote to be triggered."
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Thanks! I appreciate your post!
No probs ! It also says in the article :
In recent weeks, various Conservative cabinet ministers - including home secretary Theresa May, defence secretary Philip Hammond and education secretary Michael Gove - have been accused of being 'on manoeuvres' and positioning themselves ahead of a leadership contest. Last week, Cameron's former director of communications, Andy Coulson, used an article in GQ magazine to accuse Boris Johnson of wanting the prime minister to "fail miserably" at the next election and then take his job - a charge that the mayor of London has strenuously denied.
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I can't work the link. Please give me a synopsis!
At least 30 Conservative MPs have signed letters calling for a vote of no confidence in David Cameron's leadership, a leading backbench rebel has said.
Speaking on condition of anonymity, the MP - who is believed to have signed one of those letters - told the Huffington Post UK that the number of signers is "into the 30s now".
Some 46 letters would need to be signed for a no confidence vote to be held.
As the HuffPost UK's Ned Simons reported in May: "Under Conservative Party rules a leadership election is triggered if 15% of Conservative MPs call for a no confidence vote in the leader. They do this by sending letters to the chairman of the party's backbench 1922 committee - currently Graham Brady.
"There are currently 304 Tory MPs in the Commons, so 46 of them would need to want to get rid of Cameron for a no confidence vote to be triggered."
Liked the bit at the end of the article 'Boris backing Cameron all the way'
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I can't work the link. Please give me a synopsis!
At least 30 Conservative MPs have signed letters calling for a vote of no confidence in David Cameron's leadership, a leading backbench rebel has said.
Speaking on condition of anonymity, the MP - who is believed to have signed one of those letters - told the Huffington Post UK that the number of signers is "into the 30s now".
Some 46 letters would need to be signed for a no confidence vote to be held.
As the HuffPost UK's Ned Simons reported in May: "Under Conservative Party rules a leadership election is triggered if 15% of Conservative MPs call for a no confidence vote in the leader. They do this by sending letters to the chairman of the party's backbench 1922 committee - currently Graham Brady.
"There are currently 304 Tory MPs in the Commons, so 46 of them would need to want to get rid of Cameron for a no confidence vote to be triggered."
Liked the bit at the end of the article 'Boris backing Cameron all the way'
aye, backing him all the way .. into a corner !
If the 'barstewards', as coined by John Major about his Tory enemies, are lining up to do the same to Cameron, there is no way Boris could become leader as he's not an MP. Coulson slipped up there but no surprise there either!
I'm sure that they could parachute him into a safe seat PDQ.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I'm sure that they could parachute him into a safe seat PDQ.
Someone would have to resign first PDQ though shirley?
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Yea!
Well, it won't be one of these rebels will it? In which case, SNAFU!
How about someone getting on a bit, kicked up into the Lords.
Will we ever find out who did who in this affair?
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
How about someone getting on a bit, kicked up into the Lords.
But Cameron is going to have to do that, so it ain't gonna happen!
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Will we ever find out who did who in this affair?
Eventually, or at least until it falls under the 30-year rule.
Can't they keep things under wraps indefinitely?
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Will we ever find out who did who in this affair?
Eventually, or at least until it falls under the 30-year rule.
Oh gawd, I would have lost interest by then.
The so called crisis hasn't made the US news, maybe they're not interested in British political scandals, or maybe they've been hushed up as well
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
The so called crisis hasn't made the US news, maybe they're not interested in British political scandals, or maybe they've been hushed up as well
It's not on any of the British news channels, only in one newspaper headline.
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
The so called crisis hasn't made the US news, maybe they're not interested in British political scandals, or maybe they've been hushed up as well
It's not on any of the British news channels, only in one newspaper headline.
It seems it's ok for the media to talk about affairs of celebs, but not politicians
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
The so called crisis hasn't made the US news, maybe they're not interested in British political scandals, or maybe they've been hushed up as well
It's not on any of the British news channels, only in one newspaper headline.
It seems it's ok for the media to talk about affairs of celebs, but not politicians
No indications of early odds on potential shaggORS or ShagEES from William Hill yet either !!
I expect this is not the time to go on twitter and write [Tory idiot] and [other Tory idiot] (innocent face)"?
Sorry if it's been done earlier!
It can't be that big as the Guardian, Telegraph and the BBC don't even mention it!
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
It can't be that big as the Guardian, Telegraph and the BBC don't even mention it!
Roy Greenslade has. ^^^^