It's bull***t.

 

Compare a rioter who stole some trainers and got six months or that bloke who wore that t-shirt and got a jail sentence.

 

Then compare David Laws who tried to defraud £30k and is now in the coalition cabinet and all those MPs who were defrauding the taxpayer.

 

Bull***t, w****rs with double standards!

 

Give prisoners the vote or jail the scumbag bankers and MPs

 

 

 Edited for language.

I agree with him, prisoners should do their sentence and not vote, they've been taken out of society for a reason, prisons are too cushy these days anyway but I do agree with you re the bankers etc, if it was left to me the whole lot of them would be doing time....

Yup I agree with him too. .they had had their liberty taken away from them, they knew the law,  their rights should diminish in gaol not improve or where's the punishment? 

 

I do see you point that there are probably a lot of people not in prison that should be but I think that is a completely different matter

I think he's right in this instance - ok, there are a heck of a lot more people who should also be locked up, but two wrongs don't make a right.   If you break the law you should have no say in how the country's run (especially if you're a politician of course)

Prisoners refused to uphold the law.

So why should they be allowed to influence it?

 

Prison = no vote

I've no doubt that there are people inside who shouldn't be and people who commit bigger crimes and don't get a prison sentence but as others have said that's a different issue.

 

IMO - prisoners have forfeited their right to vote - quite simple.

nice succint comment there sainty

I would make it compulsory for prisoners to watch all election-based programmes on TV, read all the party manifestos and then to vote. Surely that should be part of their punishment rehabilitation? 

They should have no vote.I do not believe that anyone is in jail for stealing trainers,smashing the place up and causing mayhem then stealing from a property,yes.

I would also check to see if they ever voted before they went to prison ,I would be surprised if they did.

 Ukrainians vote Sunday in parliamentary elections overshadowed by the absence of jailed opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko and marked by EU worries over the fate of democracy in the ex-Soviet state.

 

 

I'll leave that one with you. I'm off back to me pit.

IMO, if you have been convicted of a crime, then you have foreited your right to vote.

I'm reet proud of that one

It sounds like the sorta thing that UKIP berk might have said on that Question Time last night mind. If yer don't mind me saying though but. No offence like.

It does beg the question - should those convicted of serious crimes and who didn't go to prison be excluded too?

Good point  

yes

Will they be able to backdate?

 hear hear...

 

 

 

I don't think prisoners should have the right to vote ... But if the prisons were full of bankers and toffs, Davey boy would be singing from a different hymn sheet 

 

I shouldn't venture in here but I am (sssshhh)

 

IMO for serious crimes eg...child abuse, child murder, pre meditated murder etc...they should be used for testing. NOT innocent animals who can't tell you if the latest mascara burns the hell out of your eyes.

Lol

Like people who vote influence the law.

Prison is the sentence.  Loss of freedom is the sentence. People go on about X boxes and TVs but how else do you pacify someone held in a cell for 15 hours a day?

 

Voting is a right, not for murders and rapists, but for people on sentences less than five years, I think it is right that they should get to vote in the society that has jailed them and sentenced them and the society that hopes they will rejoin as a rehabilitated citizen.

 

Same crime, different judge: Community service = vote, prison = no vote

 

I don't see why just because someone's gone to prison when others (usually the rich) would stay out of prison, shouldn't get a vote. 

 

As I wrote at the top, David Laws gets to sit in cabinet making laws while someone else who tried to rip off their employer would be in jail. 

 

There is also the double sentence of a prisoner going to prison during election week for a fortnight and not voting, someone else goes to prison for four years and comes out in election week and votes.

 

Saint wrote:

Does that include virtually every driver in the land, who breaks speeding laws?  That's a lot of people who aren't going to vote!

So, sort of like ... concentration camps and this person?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele carrying out experiments on this person

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lesley_Molseed

 

Should we also butcher them and sell their meat to specialist buyers, rather than 'innocent animals'?

 

There's no such thing as an 'innocent animal'.  If a cat kills a mouse, you don't send it to cat prison.  If a dog snarls and barks at another dog, you don't give it a criminal record for threatening and abusive behaviour.

Bankers - hundreds of negligent practices - no one in prison, fraudulent MPs hundreds of cases (including our PM) - 4 in prison.