@Saint posted:So what's the motivation for not enforcing face masks? It's a very easy thing for most to comply with and bound to help - so why not?
Is it cos they want us to catch the virus?
I don’t think they want us to catch it Renton, but I agree , mask wearing is so easy that I can’t see why they don’t make it mandatory 
@Eugene's Lair posted:They haven't learnt a thing, have they?
The sooner you bring in measures to reduce/prevent infections, the shorter an outbreak will last and the less damage it will do.
It's really isn't rocket science.
Exactly Eugene ….they don’t seem to have the bliddy sense they were born with , do they 
They seem to have retreated to this idea (that actually they fed the public) that if you get the Vaccine or have had Covid you have some sort of immunity. Immunity only has 2 levels - immunity or no immunity, you can't be 'A BIT' immune.
The vaccine and Covid deliver a reduced RISK of catching and passing it on, but not immunity.
@Eugene's Lair posted:They haven't learnt a thing, have they?
The sooner you bring in measures to reduce/prevent infections, the shorter an outbreak will last and the less damage it will do.
It's really isn't rocket science.
Nope!
Just good old fashioned common sense.
@slimfern posted:Nope!
Just good old fashioned common sense.
Which very few people seem to have, these days!
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Which very few people seem to have, these days!
Well I’m having my booster jab tomorrow , and I’ll be double masked in the taxi and have loads of anti viral hand foam with me 
The only reason for no mandatory facemasks is so the virus spreads and builds herd immunity.
All vulnerable groups and over 50's get a jab
Sounds like the same approach to the flu virus to me
And now they're spreading fear in the population re: the booster jabs!
When booster jabs were first mentioned we were told they couldn't be given until A MINIMUM of 6 months had passed since your second jab. In tonight's news they were fostering the idea that people should be getting worried if they haven't had their booster invitation MORE than 6 months after their 2nd jab!
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:And now they're spreading fear in the population re: the booster jabs!
When booster jabs were first mentioned we were told they couldn't be given until A MINIMUM of 6 months had passed since your second jab. In tonight's news they were fostering the idea that people should be getting worried if they haven't had their booster invitation MORE than 6 months after their 2nd jab!
Left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing 
@Eugene's Lair posted:They haven't learnt a thing, have they?
The sooner you bring in measures to reduce/prevent infections, the shorter an outbreak will last and the less damage it will do.
It's really isn't rocket science.
Although I agree with you Slim, the other side of the argument is that you only kick the ball down the road….lift restrictions and cases rise anyway
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:And now they're spreading fear in the population re: the booster jabs!
When booster jabs were first mentioned we were told they couldn't be given until A MINIMUM of 6 months had passed since your second jab. In tonight's news they were fostering the idea that people should be getting worried if they haven't had their booster invitation MORE than 6 months after their 2nd jab!
As I heard on TV last night….Javid said that once you reached the six months and waited more than a week to be contacted,then go online and book it yourself…..I did that last night and got my jab today at the local chemist
if the NHS form says you’re eligible then it’s a piece of cake to book
@Kaytee posted:As I heard on TV last night….Javid said that once you reached the six months and waited more than a week to be contacted,then go online and book it yourself…..I did that last night and got my jab today at the local chemist
if the NHS form says you’re eligible then it’s a piece of cake to book
Still touting it as a worry though, even if it IS easy to book!
My sister has COVID she's been bullish to say the least about mask wearing and vaccines and has refused a jab and wasn't going to get one at all until her employer demanded it as part of her employment. She says it feels like she has ahuge head cold, otherwise she feels ok.
She's had one jab so far
@Saint posted:My sister has COVID she's been bullish to say the least about oh heck mask wearing and vaccines and has refused a jab and wasn't going to get one at all until her employer demanded it as part of her employment. She says it feels like she has ahuge head cold, otherwise she feels ok.
She's had one jab so far
Oh heck Renton ….bet she’s wishes she’d been a bit more careful now .
@Saint posted:My sister has COVID she's been bullish to say the least about mask wearing and vaccines and has refused a jab and wasn't going to get one at all until her employer demanded it as part of her employment. She says it feels like she has ahuge head cold, otherwise she feels ok.
She's had one jab so far
Crikey! fingers crossed she makes a full recovery 
I don't wish it on anyone, but it is looking increasingly like the only way some people are going to take this seriously, is for them to catch it!
That would be the so-called Cabinet then. The booster and flu rollout has disarster written all over it. Particularly here. Have they only just noticed?
@Saint posted:My sister has COVID she's been bullish to say the least about mask wearing and vaccines and has refused a jab and wasn't going to get one at all until her employer demanded it as part of her employment. She says it feels like she has ahuge head cold, otherwise she feels ok.
She's had one jab so far
Hopefully it stays mild and she has a full recovery
With a change of thought.
@slimfern posted:Kwasi stating that plan B isn't called for yet...how many more have to die before it is
There is NO plan.
This is Billy Smart's in his heyday
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:I don't wish it on anyone, but it is looking increasingly like the only way some people are going to take this seriously, is for them to catch it!
Was talking to someone I hadn’t seen for ages…..he said his brother,only 38 years old with a one year old child had caught Covid ,became seriously ill and had died within the week….he passed it to his aunt who died 10 days later….
he thought both had had one jab, but didn’t think either had gone for the second one,having got scared of blood clots…..unfortunately Covid gave them those😢
@Kaytee posted:Was talking to someone I hadn’t seen for ages…..he said his brother,only 38 years old with a one year old child had caught Covid ,became seriously ill and had died within the week….he passed it to his aunt who died 10 days later….
he thought both had had one jab, but didn’t think either had gone for the second one,having got scared of blood clots…..unfortunately Covid gave them those😢
How sad is that 😞
@Kaytee posted:Was talking to someone I hadn’t seen for ages…..he said his brother,only 38 years old with a one year old child had caught Covid ,became seriously ill and had died within the week….he passed it to his aunt who died 10 days later….
he thought both had had one jab, but didn’t think either had gone for the second one,having got scared of blood clots…..unfortunately Covid gave them those😢
How very, very sad
@Kaytee posted:Was talking to someone I hadn’t seen for ages…..he said his brother,only 38 years old with a one year old child had caught Covid ,became seriously ill and had died within the week….he passed it to his aunt who died 10 days later….
he thought both had had one jab, but didn’t think either had gone for the second one,having got scared of blood clots…..unfortunately Covid gave them those😢
Awww Kaytee that is super sad
@Kaytee posted:Was talking to someone I hadn’t seen for ages…..he said his brother,only 38 years old with a one year old child had caught Covid ,became seriously ill and had died within the week….he passed it to his aunt who died 10 days later….
he thought both had had one jab, but didn’t think either had gone for the second one,having got scared of blood clots…..unfortunately Covid gave them those😢
😞
NHS Test and Trace has ordered all regional and local test sites across the country to scale back their operating hours, and stop offering a service after 6pm.
Officials said they had taken the decision because “demand for tests reduces significantly” in the evenings.
It comes after the scheme was lambasted as an “eyewatering” waste of taxpayers’ money which failed in its main objective to “help break chains of Covid-19 transmission and enable people to return towards a more normal way of life”
The £37 billion budget – equal to almost a fifth of the entire health service budget – was used to hire more than 2,000 consultants, employed on average rates of more than £1,000 a day. 
@slimfern posted:NHS Test and Trace has ordered all regional and local test sites across the country to scale back their operating hours, and stop offering a service after 6pm.
Officials said they had taken the decision because “demand for tests reduces significantly” in the evenings.
It comes after the scheme was lambasted as an “eyewatering” waste of taxpayers’ money which failed in its main objective to “help break chains of Covid-19 transmission and enable people to return towards a more normal way of life”
The £37 billion budget – equal to almost a fifth of the entire health service budget – was used to hire more than 2,000 consultants, employed on average rates of more than £1,000 a day.
Van=Tam says 'too many people believed the pandemic was over.'
And I say 'and whose fault is that'? Things were opened up in great swathes, rules about foreign travel were not strictly followed and very quickly downgraded and so on, but it was ALL the people's fault, never the government's!
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Van=Tam says 'too many people believed the pandemic was over.'
And I say 'and whose fault is that'? Things were opened up in great swathes, rules about foreign travel were not strictly followed and very quickly downgraded and so on, but it was ALL the people's fault, never the governments!
Exactly EFFT .And still they are balking at reinstating masks etc . What’s the betting that now the kids are back at school the figures will go even higher , and in 2/3 weeks ….when it’s too late … they will suddenly do an about turn !Anyway , more importantly , how is Mr EFFT doing?
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Van=Tam says 'too many people believed the pandemic was over.'
And I say 'and whose fault is that'? Things were opened up in great swathes, rules about foreign travel were not strictly followed and very quickly downgraded and so on, but it was ALL the people's fault, never the government's!
It was always going to be the peoples fault right from the start....
How is Mr Fluffy getting on Fluffs?
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Van=Tam says 'too many people believed the pandemic was over.'
And I say 'and whose fault is that'? Things were opened up in great swathes, rules about foreign travel were not strictly followed and very quickly downgraded and so on, but it was ALL the people's fault, never the government's!
Van Tam is a condescending, patronising shill who believes in his own hype. Never fooled me.
Mr Fluffy is still a bit panicky and paranoid, but is actually vastly improved, relative to what he was like when he first got home, thank you!
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Mr Fluffy is still a bit panicky and paranoid, but is actually vastly improved, relative to what he was like when he first got home, thank you!
A totally understandable reaction to what he has been through
So very pleased to hear he is on the mend
