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Yogi19 posted:
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:

 

You could not write this stuff.

 

A fascinating watch on TV.

 

I'm looking forward to the film.

John Goodman to play Boris?

Mr Y has been watching it for hours 

I got home late from work and had to catch up first, but I've been watching live for the last hour or so, and yes: it's riveting. 

Eugene's Lair
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Baz posted:
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You could not write this stuff.

 

A fascinating watch on TV.

 

I'm looking forward to the film.

John Goodman to play Boris?

Who will play JC 

I'm not sure Baz. But it would need to be a tall, lithe and senior individual. Possibly Clint Eastwood. 

Ford Kiernan

 

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Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
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Baz posted:
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:

 

You could not write this stuff.

 

A fascinating watch on TV.

 

I'm looking forward to the film.

John Goodman to play Boris?

Who will play JC 

I'm not sure Baz. But it would need to be a tall, lithe and senior individual. Possibly Clint Eastwood. 

More like Big BirdðŸĨ

Kaytee
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Baz posted:
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:

 

You could not write this stuff.

 

A fascinating watch on TV.

 

I'm looking forward to the film.

John Goodman to play Boris?

Who will play JC 

I'm not sure Baz. But it would need to be a tall, lithe and senior individual. Possibly Clint Eastwood. 

I’m still rooting for Cat Weasel to play him 

Baz
Baz posted:
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Baz posted:
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:

 

You could not write this stuff.

 

A fascinating watch on TV.

 

I'm looking forward to the film.

John Goodman to play Boris?

Who will play JC 

I'm not sure Baz. But it would need to be a tall, lithe and senior individual. Possibly Clint Eastwood. 

I’m still rooting for Cat Weasel to play him 

You;re going to have a long wait then. Sadly he died a couple of years ago.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

I don't get the animosity (from many quarters) towards Jeremy Corbyn.

Neither do I Fluffy, he's a genuine guy...he's stuck to the same principals for 30 odd years. People tend to listen to what others say about him rather than what he says. I have met him twice and I can honestly say he's the nicest guy, he listens, doesn't interrupt and you can tell he genuinely concerned about cuts to the NHS, sanctions, deaths, industry if we crash out of the EU, But considering in January all the right wing newspapers will have to pay tax instead of stuffing it off shore like Mogg if we are still in the EU, you can really see why they will attack him constantly. Moggs firm made 103 million in the last five years and paid zero Corporation tax... he's sweating profusely has I type. 

 

Corbyn has never met the IRA, people believe that..... he met Gerry Adams after ((1983) when he was voted MP.  Gerry Adams was not in the IRA he was in the political wing which is Sinn FÃĐin, he also met Ian Paisley.  The Tories were flying IRA terrorist into London in the 70's, Margaret Thatcher done deals and let them be released from prison and denied ever talking to them in the 80's ..I've never heard a Tory being accused of being a friend of terrorists. 

 

Least expense claimer in the HoC, traveled up until recently on public transport, publishes his tax returns every year, Got into debt in the 80's, funding a Community centre to keep it open...but he's dangerous. 

 

When Margaret Hodge was chair of Islington Council , it was passed that developers could dig up a Jewish cemetery and remove and bury the caskets elsewhere... who fought that decision and won, Jeremy Corbyn and Margaret Hodge accuses him of being antisemitic  His mother stood and fought on Cable Street against Mosley, he was brought up in a household that believed everyone was equal. 

 

I could go on...but people can and will believe what they hear. It is what it is, but I bet you people will vote Tory or Swinson and Swinson will guarantee a new Tory/Libdem pact. She's said she was a Tory and only went to Lib Dems because in her area Tories would have never won and she will only deal with the Tories, I am not expecting Labour to win the next election. A) right wing media b) people will be fooled by Swinson c) young people can't vote and it's their future. 

 

Dame_Ann_Average

As someone who loathes the whole lot of them, I did think that JC had principles if very little else. However, his one ambition seems to be to get himself into number 10 these days. He promised students to get rid of tuition fees ,then reneged on that one by stating it was an ambition not a promise...I could go on

You are right Dame about the Lib Dems.In my younger days I was an agent for a prospective councillor for the very reason you stated, we were and they still are a cabal of opportunists without a principle between them

As for the Tories...well......I have always railed against the selling off of utilities and transport, I have travelled widely on continental railways and they work well.there is a caveat though, they are run properly by people who know their business, this didn't apply to our services back in the day

In the end there is nobody in this pathetic parliament that I could vote for, there has to be an election to have a clear out. Will I vote? Yes on a matter of principle, but for whom?

Kaytee
Kaytee posted:

As someone who loathes the whole lot of them, I did think that JC had principles if very little else. However, his one ambition seems to be to get himself into number 10 these days. He promised students to get rid of tuition fees ,then reneged on that one by stating it was an ambition not a promise...I could go on

You are right Dame about the Lib Dems.In my younger days I was an agent for a prospective councillor for the very reason you stated, we were and they still are a cabal of opportunists without a principle between them

As for the Tories...well......I have always railed against the selling off of utilities and transport, I have travelled widely on continental railways and they work well.there is a caveat though, they are run properly by people who know their business, this didn't apply to our services back in the day

In the end there is nobody in this pathetic parliament that I could vote for, there has to be an election to have a clear out. Will I vote? Yes on a matter of principle, but for whom?

I’ve always had what I consider a healthy cynicism about politicians , but,  for the first time in over half a century , at this point in time I think I’ll have to abstain because I couldn’t in all conscience vote for any of them ! Boris has totally lost the plot and conservatives have managed to blow themselves apart ! Swinson,  I don’t know enough about , but the liberals are the party of remain, so.......and over the last three years JC has proved himself to be as much of turncoat and power whore as all the others imo . Not one solid , consistent principle between the lot of them  

Baz
Baz posted:
Kaytee posted:

As someone who loathes the whole lot of them, I did think that JC had principles if very little else. However, his one ambition seems to be to get himself into number 10 these days. He promised students to get rid of tuition fees ,then reneged on that one by stating it was an ambition not a promise...I could go on

You are right Dame about the Lib Dems.In my younger days I was an agent for a prospective councillor for the very reason you stated, we were and they still are a cabal of opportunists without a principle between them

As for the Tories...well......I have always railed against the selling off of utilities and transport, I have travelled widely on continental railways and they work well.there is a caveat though, they are run properly by people who know their business, this didn't apply to our services back in the day

In the end there is nobody in this pathetic parliament that I could vote for, there has to be an election to have a clear out. Will I vote? Yes on a matter of principle, but for whom?

I’ve always had what I consider a healthy cynicism about politicians , but,  for the first time in over half a century , at this point in time I think I’ll have to abstain because I couldn’t in all conscience vote for any of them ! Boris has totally lost the plot and conservatives have managed to blow themselves apart ! Swinson,  I don’t know enough about , but the liberals are the party of remain, so.......and over the last three years JC has proved himself to be as much of turncoat and power whore as all the others imo . Not one solid , consistent principle between the lot of them  

Although I agree Baz, for me I have to vote,having hammered into my daughter that women had to struggle so hard for the vote that it is my duty to exercise the franchise.  On the other hand I don't think I can vote for any of them either, I can foresee a spoiled ballot paper with something incredibly rude  written across it when I finally get into the voting booth😍😍

Kaytee
Kaytee posted:

Although I agree Baz, for me I have to vote,having hammered into my daughter that women had to struggle so hard for the vote that it is my duty to exercise the franchise.  On the other hand I don't think I can vote for any of them either, I can foresee a spoiled ballot paper with something incredibly rude  written across it when I finally get into the voting booth😍😍

Well, I've spoilt my ballot paper on a couple of occasions, but that was because of the election rather than the candidates. (This was the Police and Crime Commissioner elections, which I object to on principle. I wasn't the only one: there were over 2000 spoilt papers in my town alone!   )

 

However with regards candidates, the one thing I would suggest is to remember (and remind your daughter) that you're not primarily voting for a party or a party leader, but for an individual to represent you in Parliament. Look into who's standing in your constituency, find out what their personal viewpoints are (not just their party manifestos) and speak to them if possible. I've certainly been in the position in the past where I couldn't bring myself to vote for the party I wanted to because I knew their candidate was untrustworthy and had gone back on promises she'd previously made to her constituents.

 

I think the point of electing an individual is particularly important at the moment, given the moves in certain quarters to purge their parties of dissenting voices and differing opinions.

My town has two MPs, both Conservative. However when it comes to Brexit, one voted Remain, while the other voted Leave, which I thought rather interesting. I don't know yet if both will be standing at the next election, though...

Eugene's Lair
Kaytee posted:
Sprout posted:

Haha! it's all falling apart for the Tories 

The way they're all behaving, it's falling apart for the lot of them

Ain’t that the truth ....the lunatics have taken over the asylum Imho you’d be hard pushed to put together  one decent politician ( if that’s not an oxymoron)  out of the lot of them 

Baz
Eugene's Lair posted:
Kaytee posted:

Although I agree Baz, for me I have to vote,having hammered into my daughter that women had to struggle so hard for the vote that it is my duty to exercise the franchise.  On the other hand I don't think I can vote for any of them either, I can foresee a spoiled ballot paper with something incredibly rude  written across it when I finally get into the voting booth😍😍

Well, I've spoilt my ballot paper on a couple of occasions, but that was because of the election rather than the candidates. (This was the Police and Crime Commissioner elections, which I object to on principle. I wasn't the only one: there were over 2000 spoilt papers in my town alone!   )

 

However with regards candidates, the one thing I would suggest is to remember (and remind your daughter) that you're not primarily voting for a party or a party leader, but for an individual to represent you in Parliament. Look into who's standing in your constituency, find out what their personal viewpoints are (not just their party manifestos) and speak to them if possible. I've certainly been in the position in the past where I couldn't bring myself to vote for the party I wanted to because I knew their candidate was untrustworthy and had gone back on promises she'd previously made to her constituents.

 

I think the point of electing an individual is particularly important at the moment, given the moves in certain quarters to purge their parties of dissenting voices and differing opinions.

My town has two MPs, both Conservative. However when it comes to Brexit, one voted Remain, while the other voted Leave, which I thought rather interesting. I don't know yet if both will be standing at the next election, though...

Good point Eugene .....although in these febrile days I’m not even sure that is true . The way  many politicians ....including those in the  Labour heartlands.... seem to have thrown some of their constituents under a bus  doesn’t give me much confidence that what I vote for is what I would get. So, unless there is a miracle,  I think that for the first time ever I will be joining Kaytee and spoiling my ballot paper . 

Baz
Eugene's Lair posted:
Kaytee posted:

Although I agree Baz, for me I have to vote,having hammered into my daughter that women had to struggle so hard for the vote that it is my duty to exercise the franchise.  On the other hand I don't think I can vote for any of them either, I can foresee a spoiled ballot paper with something incredibly rude  written across it when I finally get into the voting booth😍😍

Well, I've spoilt my ballot paper on a couple of occasions, but that was because of the election rather than the candidates. (This was the Police and Crime Commissioner elections, which I object to on principle. I wasn't the only one: there were over 2000 spoilt papers in my town alone!   )

 

However with regards candidates, the one thing I would suggest is to remember (and remind your daughter) that you're not primarily voting for a party or a party leader, but for an individual to represent you in Parliament. Look into who's standing in your constituency, find out what their personal viewpoints are (not just their party manifestos) and speak to them if possible. I've certainly been in the position in the past where I couldn't bring myself to vote for the party I wanted to because I knew their candidate was untrustworthy and had gone back on promises she'd previously made to her constituents.

 

I think the point of electing an individual is particularly important at the moment, given the moves in certain quarters to purge their parties of dissenting voices and differing opinions.

My town has two MPs, both Conservative. However when it comes to Brexit, one voted Remain, while the other voted Leave, which I thought rather interesting. I don't know yet if both will be standing at the next election, though...

I take your point Eugene, but this constituency has always fluctuated between Lib Dem and Tory,by a very small majority every time in both council and Parliamentary elections.I do look at the man or woman standing....but they never seem to field anyone worth having because of this flip flopping. It is a remain constituency by a small margin, I expect it to remain that way this time too depending upon those who voted for the Brexit party last time vote tactically this time.I suppose I'll have to see which way the wind blows at the time 

Kaytee
Baz posted:
Eugene's Lair posted:
Kaytee posted:

Although I agree Baz, for me I have to vote,having hammered into my daughter that women had to struggle so hard for the vote that it is my duty to exercise the franchise.  On the other hand I don't think I can vote for any of them either, I can foresee a spoiled ballot paper with something incredibly rude  written across it when I finally get into the voting booth😍😍

Well, I've spoilt my ballot paper on a couple of occasions, but that was because of the election rather than the candidates. (This was the Police and Crime Commissioner elections, which I object to on principle. I wasn't the only one: there were over 2000 spoilt papers in my town alone!   )

 

However with regards candidates, the one thing I would suggest is to remember (and remind your daughter) that you're not primarily voting for a party or a party leader, but for an individual to represent you in Parliament. Look into who's standing in your constituency, find out what their personal viewpoints are (not just their party manifestos) and speak to them if possible. I've certainly been in the position in the past where I couldn't bring myself to vote for the party I wanted to because I knew their candidate was untrustworthy and had gone back on promises she'd previously made to her constituents.

 

I think the point of electing an individual is particularly important at the moment, given the moves in certain quarters to purge their parties of dissenting voices and differing opinions.

My town has two MPs, both Conservative. However when it comes to Brexit, one voted Remain, while the other voted Leave, which I thought rather interesting. I don't know yet if both will be standing at the next election, though...

Good point Eugene .....although in these febrile days I’m not even sure that is true . The way  many politicians ....including those in the  Labour heartlands.... seem to have thrown some of their constituents under a bus  doesn’t give me much confidence that what I vote for is what I would get. So, unless there is a miracle,  I think that for the first time ever I will be joining Kaytee and spoiling my ballot paper . 

Yes Baz, MPs on both sides of the Brexit debate who voted against their constituents because they obviously feel that they know best should be deselected , they are elected to serve those who voted for them not themselves

Kaytee

 

The Andrew Marr was an interesting one today. If Amber Rudd is telling the truth then it would seem the lack of any news on EU negotiations is down to the lack of negotiations and the intention to crash out without any deal whatsoever.

 

(on the subject of the legislation to stop a no deal Brexit) I thought it interesting the exchange between Javid and Marr. Would the PM break the law?

 

Javid came across as evasive as ever.

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:

 

The Andrew Marr was an interesting one today. If Amber Rudd is telling the truth then it would seem the lack of any news on EU negotiations is down to the lack of negotiations and the intention to crash out without any deal whatsoever.

 

(on the subject of the legislation to stop a no deal Brexit) I thought it interesting the exchange between Javid and Marr. Would the PM break the law?

 

Javid came across as evasive as ever.

Twitter tells a lot  You get far more there than you get on MSM 

Sprout
Kaytee posted:
Baz posted:
Eugene's Lair posted:
Kaytee posted:

Although I agree Baz, for me I have to vote,having hammered into my daughter that women had to struggle so hard for the vote that it is my duty to exercise the franchise.  On the other hand I don't think I can vote for any of them either, I can foresee a spoiled ballot paper with something incredibly rude  written across it when I finally get into the voting booth😍😍

Well, I've spoilt my ballot paper on a couple of occasions, but that was because of the election rather than the candidates. (This was the Police and Crime Commissioner elections, which I object to on principle. I wasn't the only one: there were over 2000 spoilt papers in my town alone!   )

 

However with regards candidates, the one thing I would suggest is to remember (and remind your daughter) that you're not primarily voting for a party or a party leader, but for an individual to represent you in Parliament. Look into who's standing in your constituency, find out what their personal viewpoints are (not just their party manifestos) and speak to them if possible. I've certainly been in the position in the past where I couldn't bring myself to vote for the party I wanted to because I knew their candidate was untrustworthy and had gone back on promises she'd previously made to her constituents.

 

I think the point of electing an individual is particularly important at the moment, given the moves in certain quarters to purge their parties of dissenting voices and differing opinions.

My town has two MPs, both Conservative. However when it comes to Brexit, one voted Remain, while the other voted Leave, which I thought rather interesting. I don't know yet if both will be standing at the next election, though...

Good point Eugene .....although in these febrile days I’m not even sure that is true . The way  many politicians ....including those in the  Labour heartlands.... seem to have thrown some of their constituents under a bus  doesn’t give me much confidence that what I vote for is what I would get. So, unless there is a miracle,  I think that for the first time ever I will be joining Kaytee and spoiling my ballot paper . 

Yes Baz, MPs on both sides of the Brexit debate who voted against their constituents because they obviously feel that they know best should be deselected , they are elected to serve those who voted for them not themselves

But the referendum vote was a personal vote, not an electoral one, so why should they have voted in keeping with any particular group?

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing

Yes Machel it is a disgrace!

 

Disgrace 1: Cameron instigates the referendum, then jumps overboard and leaves someone else to deal with the outcome.

 

Disgrace 2: May decides that instead of getting everyone on board and collectively sorting it out, she knows better than everyone else and will sort it herself and saddle us with HER IDEA of what she thinks we all want. Remember she wasn't intending to give parliament a vote on it at all, let alone a 'meaningful' one.

 

Disgrace 3: Along comes Boris and instead of taking lessons from May's failures, he too toddles off and decides he can sort it himself and now 'throws his toys out of the pram' because not everyone agrees with him and makes him do things he doesn't want to do. No regard as to what 'the people' might want, just what HE wants.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Saint posted:

If the Government says it's position is leave but a Tory constituency voted to stay â€Ķ how should their MP vote?

Depends exactly on what they are voting!

Assuming we are talking about voting on a leave deal, then the MP should vote in accordance with whether they think it will be best for ALL their constituants. It is (theoretically at least) no longer a leave/remain vote as the current situation is that we are leaving. What the country should now be voting on is whether the proposed deal is good for ALL people or as big a majority as possible and without disadvantaging anyone.

 

Not saying it will be easy to find this common ground, but that is why it should have been a cross-party discussion from the outset.

 

Any one party trying to do it by themselves was always going to be doomed to failure because they would inevitably see it from their own point of view and miss (quite possibly unintentionally) aspects that other views have.

 

From the moment the result was known the focus should have been 'Right then, how are WE going to manage this as amicably as possible?' It is possible we might still be sitting here today not having left yet, but the reasons for that would be more to do with the complexities than the current in-fighting and sheer hatred!

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing

I reiterate what I have always said. We was offered the vote to stay or leave, not whether we should stay or leave after a deal has been agreed. 


Be that right or wrong, that’s what was offered and leave was the majority vote.

There is no point in having a democratic vote if you aren’t going to abide by it.

Now I shall wait for the flack that is bound to follow 

*dons flack jacket* 

Moonie
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Moonie posted:

I reiterate what I have always said. We was offered the vote to stay or leave, not whether we should stay or leave after a deal has been agreed. 


Be that right or wrong, that’s what was offered and leave was the majority vote.

There is no point in having a democratic vote if you aren’t going to abide by it.

Now I shall wait for the flack that is bound to follow 

*dons flack jacket* 

I agree Moonie .....it makes a mockery of our democracy imo ....our politicians are supposed to be our servants ...not our nannies ! Hides behind Moonie 

Baz
Baz posted:
Moonie posted:

I reiterate what I have always said. We was offered the vote to stay or leave, not whether we should stay or leave after a deal has been agreed. 


Be that right or wrong, that’s what was offered and leave was the majority vote.

There is no point in having a democratic vote if you aren’t going to abide by it.

Now I shall wait for the flack that is bound to follow 

*dons flack jacket* 

I agree Moonie .....it makes a mockery of our democracy imo ....our politicians are supposed to be our servants ...not our nannies ! Hides behind Moonie 

 welcomes Bazzy  

Moonie
Moonie posted:
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

I know the referendum didn't specify the manner of leaving, but I think most sane people kind of assumed there would be some reasonable discussion as to how it would work!

ðŸĪ” Dunno where that leaves me then *shrugs...

That.s OK Moonie.........you just concentrate on looking after those swans/cygnets!

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
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Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

I know the referendum didn't specify the manner of leaving, but I think most sane people kind of assumed there would be some reasonable discussion as to how it would work!

Well I voted out ...and tbh I never considered a deal ...I thought we would just leave ....but then I’ve never claimed to be sane 

Baz
Baz posted:
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

I know the referendum didn't specify the manner of leaving, but I think most sane people kind of assumed there would be some reasonable discussion as to how it would work!

Well I voted out ...and tbh I never considered a deal ...I thought we would just leave ....but then I’ve never claimed to be sane 

I too voted out and I am extremely sane, just wish that bunch in Westminster were!

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:
Baz posted:
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

I know the referendum didn't specify the manner of leaving, but I think most sane people kind of assumed there would be some reasonable discussion as to how it would work!

Well I voted out ...and tbh I never considered a deal ...I thought we would just leave ....but then I’ve never claimed to be sane 

I too voted out and I am extremely sane, just wish that bunch in Westminster were!

On that we agree EFFT .....to bliddy busy playing * politics* while Rome burns !

Baz
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Chancellor Sajid Javid says the 31 October Brexit deadline "can't be met"

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Anyone surprised?

No, but again, it was interesting that he could not answer the question directly, but had to use the phrase "can't now be met".

 

I also thought the interviewer missed a piece of information that Javid should have been further questioned on. Javid said that "no deal is off the table for the duration of the extension". Does that mean, outside the extension 'no deal' is back on the table?

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:

Chancellor Sajid Javid says the 31 October Brexit deadline "can't be met"

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Anyone surprised?

No, but again, it was interesting that he could not answer the question directly, but had to use the phrase "can't now be met".

 

I also thought the interviewer missed a piece of information that Javid should have been further questioned on. Javid said that "no deal is off the table for the duration of the extension". Does that mean, outside the extension 'no deal' is back on the table?

If that's the case (and I hope it's been picked up) then there should be no agreement for a GE.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
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Well, another day, another major cock-up!

 

Woke to hear the fallout from the comments made by Mogg and Bridgen. When will politicians learn to steer clear of controversial comments when they are trying to win an election. Now, I don't like Mogg one bit and I hope this bites a big chunk out his @rse but for a so called intelligent man he should have picked his words a lot more carefully.

 

Then we get Cleverly on shortly after not only trying to smooth over the Mogg comments, but having himself grilled about a 'doctored' video they  posted.

 

At least you can't say politics is boring at the moment !!!

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
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Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:

 

Well, another day, another major cock-up!

 

Woke to hear the fallout from the comments made by Mogg and Bridgen. When will politicians learn to steer clear of controversial comments when they are trying to win an election. Now, I don't like Mogg one bit and I hope this bites a big chunk out his @rse but for a so called intelligent man he should have picked his words a lot more carefully.

 

Then we get Cleverly on shortly after not only trying to smooth over the Mogg comments, but having himself grilled about a 'doctored' video they  posted.

 

At least you can't say politics is boring at the moment !!!

That’s a matter of opinion EC 

Moonie
Baz posted:
Moonie posted:

I see Mob Farage aren’t going to contest the 312 seats the Tories won last time...

The rotten, cowardly two faced scumbag 

Closet Tory 

I think he’s just worked out something that most of us worked out weeks ago ....that if he splits the vote he could be opening the way for a second referendum 

 

Moonie
Moonie posted:
Baz posted:
Moonie posted:

I see Mob Farage aren’t going to contest the 312 seats the Tories won last time...

The rotten, cowardly two faced scumbag 

Closet Tory 

I think he’s just worked out something that most of us worked out weeks ago ....that if he splits the vote he could be opening the way for a second referendum 

 

Baz

So less than a week in we have had, Cons doctoring two tapes and being caught out. Is it one or two police probes into Johnson and his shady dealings, one report of nine Russian backers of Johnson and the Tory party suppressed until after the election. The BBC using a fake tape to cover up Johnson's total car crash at the cenotaph, using video from 2016 to cover up his blunders 

 

I have said it for the last 4/5 years, this is the most corrupt government in history. The election  isn't just about Brexit, the flipping country is being dismantled and I'm sick to death about Brexit. If we end up with a Johnson/Farage pact we are walking into a full blown fascist hard right government...instead of nearly hard right we have now  I'm sure we'll have Lord Farage anytime soon 

Dame_Ann_Average

Labour aren't doing themselves any favours. Backtracking on a Scottish Ref. yesterday ( No Indy Ref 2!) and all over the place on a four day working week. Is that even realistic? Believe me I want the Conservatives out but what do you do? Hope for a minority?      The whole thing is shambolic and that's before we get to Farage and his Brexit Co. cherry picking seats. Donut.

VD

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