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Reply to "Frank Field has resigned citing 'Corbyn's anti-semitism'"

Baz posted:
Carnelian posted:
Baz posted:
Carnelian posted:
Yogi19 posted:

Jeremy Corbyn voted against the Whip on over 600 occasions and is lauded as a man of principle.

Frank Field gets castigated for doing the same.

Some serious double standards afoot, IMO. 

 

BTW, am I the only one to keep reading this thread as “Frank Ifield has resigned.....” 

Corbyn voted against the whip on matters of principle.  Peace, Iraq war, Afghanistan war, First Iraq war, Blairite welfare cuts, jumping into bed with the gambling industry etc.  

Field for matters of his rightist principle.  For the Iraq war, ghettoisation of the 'undesirable working class' for attacks on the poorest and for privatisations.

So it’s ok to vote against as long as it’s leftist principles , but not rightist?   Or is it just ok if politicians vote against stuff as long as you ( in the widest  sense of the word) agree with their principles ? 

Well yes, because Labour is a social democrat left wing party!  It isn't the Lib Dems or Tories.  Field's politics are a better fit for the Tory Party.  The problem I have with Field is he is a Tory in practice who hasn't the guts to stand under the Tory rosette because he knows Birkenhead wouldn't elect him as a Tory. 

 

He doesn't care less about antisemitism - and has never voiced an opinion on it -  and is using it to cause the maximum damage to the Labour Party and Corbyn.  That cynical behaviour merits his expulsion from the party.

 

He did recommend 'problem families' be 'ghettoised' - his own words - in secure units under the Birkenhead motorway.  Ghettoising, hmm, wonder who that sounds like? 

 

He also criticised Tory, Keith Joseph for being a (paraphrased)  'a senior Jew who was pursuing the policies of Nazis'.   Something that would get Corbyn hung, drawn and quartered under the present contrived BS agenda of UK media.  I wonder if Field ever raised the issue Thatcher labelling Nelson Mandela as a terrorist during his friendship with her or her support of General Pinochet vile regime?  Field is a very hypocritical character who quite honestly has morals in the cesspit but pretends he's above reproach.  

 

So yes it is ok to vote for left wing principles in the Labour Party.  It's not ok in the Tory Party!

 

If the Tory Party want to oust Ken Clark or Anna Soubry for being too leftist, that's their call.  I doubt there's many Ukip would be MPs who support Remain!

 

You've made the mistake of attacking me for a hypocrisy you perceive I have but I don't have that hypocrisy at all.

Carnelian , I deliberately added the caveat that “you “ was meant in the widest possible sense of the word ....I wasn’t attacking any one individual. The bottom line is , politically at least ...unless an individual is a saint ....and I’ve not met one yet ...we are all subject to our own biases. What we choose to believe ; where we get our news/information from; what statistics we accept or don’t accept ; how we determine truth and lies; who we think are the good guys or the bad guys ; what causes we believe are on the side of the angels , what are on the side of the devil ...all these factors are pre determined by our own personal preferences and life experiences.

 

The danger/reality  is that a lot of people don’t seem to acknowledge, or even understand  this ...therefore they mistakenly see everything as black and white ....them and us ...love or hate .....whereas the truth of the matter is that most , if not all,  of political life is simply shades of the same damn awful muddy grey . What I’d really like is that instead of this party rubbish and infighting  ...left or right ...politicians would get their act together and start sorting the country out ! But then I’d like a lot of things that are never going to happen

Great post, Baz 

Yogi19
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