the tory electoral fraud

im not that clever that i can say i understand fully what the tories did

i know theyve been fined £70grand

laura kuessenberg (the tory employee) says its a tory 'mistake'

yet

its actually fraud

and

the MSM are giving it little attention

like 'tut  the tories made a mistake'

yet

if this story was in the news 40yrs ago-there would be a massive outcry from the press & the people

what on earth happened to this country?

this is a very sad state of affairs

 

EVERY single paper you read is owned by a foreigner or a tax evader or both

not ONE of them has our interests at heart

 

i stopped buying papers a long time ago

 

what do you think?

 

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I haven't t bought a paper in years ....despite what some think ....but I do think we've become inured to all these scandals ....especially in the days of 24 hour rolling news  there is always another *good* story around the corner  

 

There is a difference between balanced journalism and what the BBC now report. the BBC utterly disgust me. I'm suprised Laura Tory Liar isn't blaming Corbyn, Loads of replies to her effort to claim 29 times a mistake and 12 so far been referred to the police. This wasn't a one off mistake is was systematic cheating and now they have the boundary changes through it will be very difficult to get anyone else into power.  By the way, the Electoral Commision are limited in the fines they can give, they said today on Radio 4 if the had more powers the fines would have been far higher. 

 

Electoral Commission fines Tories 70k over election expenses mistakes

 

 

. I've corrected your tweet for you. You're welcome

 

 

Jon Snows opinion of the BBC 

 

 

 

Even as Snow issued his comment, BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg was under fire for repeatedly branding the election expenses irregularities “mistakes”. This is despite Claire Bassett, Chief Executive of the Electoral Commission, explicitly saying on BBC Radio 4 [2.15] that the intent of the Conservative Party is a matter for the police. So whether it was officially deliberate is still under the separate, ongoing police investigation.

Electoral Commission

Concluding its 10-month-long probe into the Tories’ national spending, the Electoral Commission fined the multi-millionaire Conservative Party a meagre £70,000. £45,000 for spending return inaccuracies in three 2014 by-elections, £20,000 for such inaccuracies in the 2015 general election, and the final £5,000 for missing receipts and invoices. Significantly, Claire Bassett said that she would have imposed larger fines on the Conservative Party if the Electoral Commission had the power to do so.

The Commission also referred the Conservative Party’s former Treasurer to the Metropolitan Police. The Treasurer signed off the party’s general election national spending return, which was “neither complete nor correct”.

Police

The real repercussions will come to light when the police forces conclude their separate investigations into local spending. There are two strict spending limits in UK parliamentary elections: national and local. The allegations centre on the Conservatives recording local expenditure under the national limit, or not recording spending at all.

Currently, there are 29 seats under police investigation. The looming results could trigger a number of by-elections, threatening the Conservatives’ majority in parliament.

Around two dozen Tory MPs face accusations that they illegally overspent in the 2015 general election campaign. One part of the ongoing investigation is the failure to declare costs associated with the Conservative campaign ‘battle buses’. If the allegations are true, the MPs and their agents could face a year in jail and/or an unlimited fine. In addition, there could be a three-year ban on their holding elected office.

Now, 12 police forces have passed files onto the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS).

The wider allegations go beyond the battle buses. They includes hotel expenditure, leaflets, letters signed by Cameron himself, along with food and transport for activists.

 

without the internet..probably this wouldnt have even come to light-so this sh!te has probably gone on for years-involving all parties

in reality

this should be enough evidence to bring down the tories

yet

thats not happening

they go on

May & that goofy bloke sit there & laugh

and

we let them

i dont get it?

 

I've know about it over 12 months, the BBC chose to ignore it...but, it's stuffed to the rafters with Tories now, so no surprise. I don;t think it's gone on previously, or if it did not tothe scale it happened in 2015, The Battle Bus was the issue, it went all over full of tory canvassers and it wasn't recorded nor the hotel bills and meals or certain printed pamphlets. All thee bills were paid for from a private address, it was blatant fraud and top people new about it, including Davey Boy  

The press and broadcasters and doing their damndest to keep the tories in power, the last thing they want is a fair society. They want to keep their off shore havens, bonuses, workers rights stopped, sick pay, maternity pay and all that will be at risk after Brexit and that will suit the Tories 

 

Interesting experiment last year and I can honestly say I have seen this happen so many times..it's a good couple of minutes watch. Some of them were appalled to even think they agreed with the policies 

 

velvet donkey posted:

Everyone and their fathers knew JC and MCDonnell were paving the way for talks, that doesn't make them sympathisers. If it does, include Willie Whitelaw on your list (secret talks in 1971) and Margaret Thatcher with operation Soon in 1982...well agree to disagree on this one Velvet, and at the end of the day it was talks that brought about the Good Friday agreement. 

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velvet donkey posted:

Corbyn and McDonnell were terrorist sympathisers.

 

So, in the words of Duncan Bannantyne - I'm oot.

nah, trying to talk sh!t out with nutcases dont make you a sympathiser it means someone is chatting so i can avoid getting blown the f*ck up

if one of them says they should get a medal (or summat) it means to me that they recognise both sides of the sh!tty argument

velvet donkey posted:

You keep believing that.

 

Funny how a person's heroes can do no wrong.

 

Their hand was in the till and the chickens came home to roost.

Velvet, they're not heroes. They're just trying to make a better world for everyone, and it annoys me that people can't see that 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:
velvet donkey posted:

Everyone and their fathers knew JC and MCDonnell were paving the way for talks, that doesn't make them sympathisers. If it does, include Willie Whitelaw on your list (secret talks in 1971) and Margaret Thatcher with operation Soon in 1982...well agree to disagree on this one Velvet, and at the end of the day it was talks that brought about the Good Friday agreement. 

I'm sorry Dame but that is a backhand spin Alistair Campbell would be incapable of.

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