Oh no Pirate 
You weren't to know.
Deepest sympathies
no i wasnt to know
but i shoulda gone when i said i was going
thats me being idle-not wanting to sit in saturday town centre traffic
i did the same with my dad
when he phoned-i couldnt hear him & it was late
i thought it'll keep-i'll phone him in the morning
the selfish old sod died before i rang him
Oh no Pirate You weren't to know.
Deepest sympathies
no i wasnt to know
but i shoulda gone when i said i was going
thats me being idle-not wanting to sit in saturday town centre traffic
i did the same with my dad
when he phoned-i couldnt hear him & it was late
i thought it'll keep-i'll phone him in the morning
the selfish old sod died before i rang him
Pirate. Not sure what to say to you because I'm sure words won't make you feel better but just remember you tried. It's not your fault there wasn't time, you thought she'd still be there when you visited.
Pirate. Not sure what to say to you because I'm sure words won't make you feel better but just remember you tried. It's not your fault there wasn't time, you thought she'd still be there when you visited.
Echoes this ^^^
Pirate
Oh no Pirate You weren't to know.
Deepest sympathies
no i wasnt to know
but i shoulda gone when i said i was going
thats me being idle-not wanting to sit in saturday town centre traffic
i did the same with my dad
when he phoned-i couldnt hear him & it was late
i thought it'll keep-i'll phone him in the morning
the selfish old sod died before i rang him
A similar thing happened with my Mum, took a day off visiting the day she died. Its a terrible feeling Pirate, life is very unfair in its timing. SO sorry for you 
Hope your Aunt died a peaceful death and wasn't in pain? May she rest in peace xx
I will get on that straight away EC....
I'm trying to wrap the little ones b'day presents for tomorrow and watch CBB... I'm failing at both as the older two kids have some sort of tummy bug and have been being sick and dashing in and out of the loo for an hour!
Hope your kids feel better soon Jen.
Oh no Jen that must be rotten You poor thing
Jen, hope you're feeling a little better today. Glad the kids are better because it's just hell when you can't get peace to be sick on your own when they're sick too!
I've been booked in for induction NEXT THURSDAY! Scary stuff 
I hope it doesn't last longJen, hope you're feeling a little better today. Glad the kids are better because it's just hell when you can't get peace to be sick on your own when they're sick too!
I've been booked in for induction NEXT THURSDAY! Scary stuff
Ells
I've been booked in for induction NEXT THURSDAY! Scary stuff
Ohhh, exciting though xx
One of my three was induced and it was by far my easiest birth. they were able to plan when the pains would start and the bloke doing the epidurals was on call for me. None of that natural malarky for me!
I've been booked in for induction NEXT THURSDAY! Scary stuff
Ohhh, exciting though xx
One of my three was induced and it was by far my easiest birth. they were able to plan when the pains would start and the bloke doing the epidurals was on call for me. None of that natural malarky for me!
Rexi, I've never went into labour naturally so I haven't a clue what that feels like (kinda would have liked to experience it but not looking likely) as I've been induced with both of mine.
First was just as you described, lovely calm experience, epidural as soon as I wanted it and just a great overall experience. 2nd was awful. Baby refused to budge so after 3 days of them trying to get him out they put the drip up. That thing is evil! Makes you go from 0-60 in an hour or so, very unnatural, IMO, no time to get used to contractions as they start them off 4-5 mins apart and increase frequency.....increasing the pain! Evil Midwife refused me epidural and I only got one when she went on teabreak and the other midwife who came to sit with me heard me say I'd been begging for it for ages. It didn't even work though I think I was too far gone by that stage.
Still only 37 weeks and 5 days but tempted to start the old wives tales and see if anything shifts her before next week. Although at the same time who on earth WANTS to give themselves that pain any sooner than they need to??
Rexi, I've never went into labour naturally so I haven't a clue what that feels like (kinda would have liked to experience it but not looking likely) as I've been induced with both of mine.
First was just as you described, lovely calm experience, epidural as soon as I wanted it and just a great overall experience. 2nd was awful. Baby refused to budge so after 3 days of them trying to get him out they put the drip up. That thing is evil! Makes you go from 0-60 in an hour or so, very unnatural, IMO, no time to get used to contractions as they start them off 4-5 mins apart and increase frequency.....increasing the pain! Evil Midwife refused me epidural and I only got one when she went on teabreak and the other midwife who came to sit with me heard me say I'd been begging for it for ages. It didn't even work though I think I was too far gone by that stage.
Still only 37 weeks and 5 days but tempted to start the old wives tales and see if anything shifts her before next week. Although at the same time who on earth WANTS to give themselves that pain any sooner than they need to??
Good grief Ells! What a horrible biatch
I know they are really just trying to get you through it with minimal drugs etc but just telling me NO when I asked for it just kept sending me into a spin because I knew I wanted it badly but felt I had no authority over it. Second MW was disgusted that I was told no so many times and she thought all pain relief should be given when asked for it (as long as it's an appropriate time for it) so she sorted it straight away. First midwife was not very happy to see it in place when she got back. She definitely just wanted me in and out as fast as possible and the epidural was not in her plans!
I know they are really just trying to get you through it with minimal drugs etc but just telling me NO when I asked for it just kept sending me into a spin because I knew I wanted it badly but felt I had no authority over it. Second MW was disgusted that I was told no so many times and she thought all pain relief should be given when asked for it (as long as it's an appropriate time for it) so she sorted it straight away. First midwife was not very happy to see it in place when she got back. She definitely just wanted me in and out as fast as possible and the epidural was not in her plans!
FFS WHY?! They don't do it with any other medical procedure, and it's your body and your pain - you should be able to get the type of treatment you want for it 
If you want to be drugged up to the eyeballs surely you should be allowed
ION: I don't understand all this "ooohh I don't want any pain relief" stuff, you wouldn't have broken bones reset with no pain relief, or an operation with no anaesthetic 
I know they are really just trying to get you through it with minimal drugs etc but just telling me NO when I asked for it just kept sending me into a spin because I knew I wanted it badly but felt I had no authority over it. Second MW was disgusted that I was told no so many times and she thought all pain relief should be given when asked for it (as long as it's an appropriate time for it) so she sorted it straight away. First midwife was not very happy to see it in place when she got back. She definitely just wanted me in and out as fast as possible and the epidural was not in her plans!
Hope you get a nice caring one this time Ells... not that aul wagon!
It's been 8 years Rog but I'll not forget her face!
Saz, I know!! I hate how they try to put you off everything although there are some who offer every type of pain relief (my 1st labour was like that) so I know they aren't all bad.
I asked the consultant about the procedure at the last scan. She said there should be no reason for any midwife to tell you you can't get it and that our hospital has numerous anaesthietist's (sp) at any time of the day or night so the only time we'd ever be refused would be if a MAJOR incidence happened in the area and all emergencies were brought to our hospital......which has never, ever happened so she doesn't believe for one second that 'he/she is busy' should ever be believed.
Anyway.....it's not too far off now so I suppose I should just try to enjoy the last few days of just being the 4 of us before the new baby turns us all upside down!
I had pethadine (sp) with my first two (6 hours/4 hours) but for the third (different hospital) I attended birth lessons and learnt some deep breathing exercises, number three I coughed out in less than 20 mins!
I had pethadine (sp) with my first two (6 hours/4 hours) but for the third (different hospital) I attended birth lessons and learnt some deep breathing exercises, number three I coughed out in less than 20 mins!
That's all i had with the first (not even gas and air) and it was flipping rubbish.... Made me feel all muddled which i hated, like i was floating on the ceiling and did nothing for the pain
Purple is my fav colour 
Is the secret agent business slow atm EC? 
EC needs to relax after all that shady subterfuge and dispatching enemy agents 
I love it! It sums us up in so many ways
I am here tonight, totally fuming and crying at the same time. I just feel furious at the text messages I have had tonight. They've come from my sister telling me that her youngest son (he's 23) is hurting too much so he has decided that he is not going to see his 5 month old son anymore?
I'm Effin fuming for many reasons: and here's a list
1. He lost his father when he was 10, and will talk about how he misses having a father figure in his life.
2. I lunched with afore mentioned sister Friday gone & she said how pissed she was at being put on the middle of the patents of her grandchild.
3. She (my sister) sent me every text between her and the child's mother.
3.(I) Sister sent the text telling the girl that my nephew didn't want to be in his life.
3.(II)and then she argued with her, from what I read, the Mother had a valid point.
4. So, because my sister is supporting her ( in my opinion) dead beat Dad, does that mean other family members should not see him.
5. If her (yes the sister) eldest son had done the same thing, would she have been so supportive. Answer. NO.
6. My child, and another if her nieces have been ignored as children by their biological fathers, and she has called them every name you can imagine for doing so. So how can she support this awful decision?
Sorry for the very long and ranty post.
Sorry for the very long and ranty post.
He sounds like a selfish wee sod Cinds. If you've fathered a child, its all about them, not you. You don't get to opt out!
Sorry for the very long and ranty post.
He sounds like a selfish wee sod Cinds. If you've fathered a child, its all about them, not you. You don't get to opt out!
Yes he is. I said to my sister Months ago he would do this, but she defended him. I just cannot believe she is still defending him, actually not defending g him, but doing his dirty work for him.
Cinds, I saw your post last night but couldn't respond then. I know as parents we're supposed to support our kids in whatever they want to do but he's making a huge mistake and you are right to be furious with him and your sister for backing him up. That poor kid deserves a father and it's just a shame that you all lose out on seeing him because of it too.
I don't know if it would be appropriate for you to still see the kid......although if it was me I think I'd probably tell the wee one's mother that you don't feel the same way as they do and would like to see him but I don't know how that would affect your relationship with your sister and nephew. I have a teenage nephew and if he and his Mum did that then I know I'd be falling out with at least one of them. He shouldn't get to just drop the kid like a cold turd. So f*cking what if he's struggling!!! Is his son not going to struggle 100 times more having to grow up without a dad because he's being selfish. No-one is saying he has to do a lot while he sorts his own head out but phone calls, the odd visit and letting the kid know he's there would be better than nothing until he gets himself together.
ive just my tattoo-re-tattoed
the one i had done by the drunk hells angel (i was a tad p!ssed aswell)
cost me ÂĢ50
and the effing agony!
tattoo bloke said anyone else woulda punched him by now lol
mind you
it looks so much better
Purple is my fav colour
Is the secret agent business slow atm EC?
It is, I was taking a bit of downtime and thought I would do 'art'
I love it! It sums us up in so many ways
Why thank you Rog.
If you want a bigger version to keep, look at more closely or improve, just open the image in another window.
Why thank you Rog.
If you want a bigger version to keep, look at more closely or improve, just open the image in another window.
Just did and saved it, EC . I'll print it out for Halloween [my favourite time of year] as its quite spooky 
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Purple is also my favourite colour.
Why thank you Rog.
If you want a bigger version to keep, look at more closely or improve, just open the image in another window.
Just did and saved it, EC . I'll print it out for Halloween [my favourite time of year] as its quite spooky .
Purple is also my favourite colour.
Nice one
If you want a custom one, let me know.
