Ditto It's amazing how popular she is getting though C5 editing seems to be paying off !  

I'm not surprised, just very disappointed with the way CH5 have ruined the show. It's amazing how they can skew things when we have no LF.

No matter whether they have another civilian BB next year, this is definitely the last one I am watching. It isn't BB any more.

I know exactly what you mean .....Chris is the only thing that has kept me going this year ....and I do enjoy the thread .....but it's hard to sit through so much drivel and manipulation !!

The thing that annoys me with Chris is he called Helen out but now he's siding with her, also he was left out of the in group and now he's quite happy to do it to somebody else being left out is not nice to see wether it's a game or not (my daughter tells me off for this because I always look after anyone being left out 'src="https://www.gagajoyjoy.com/static/images/graemlins/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" class="noBorder" />

Me too Aimee ....and I agree it's wrong to leave Pav out , but they are ALL doing it .....but it's only Chris getting the stick for it ...and that in itself is wrong ...IMO.  Tonight for example they have missed out a whole chunk where Ash and Helen have a go about Pav getting his letter ....but left in Chris mentioning it ! C5 want him out ....I think they see him as a danger to Ash getting to the final ..... and chances are they will get their way !!

I think the reason Chris is getting it is because it's more of disappointment from him.   Nobody expects the others to be nice - but he set his stall out as the rational 'nice' one and now he's turning out to be just like the others (albeit perhaps not so bad)  People feel cheated when they find out their idols have feet of clay after all.

He's not getting stick for leaving Pav out, he's getting stick for pretty much accusing Pav of being a creepy pervert towards an 18 yr old girl on national tv.

I'd rather be punched in the face than have that said to me on TV.

Don't exaggerate Crunchy And again, it's not just him saying it ....Danielle said ...Ashliegh agreed ....Steven said he stares ....Mark said he stares .....

Maybe Kaffs ...but my favs ( like Darnell , Ben etc.) have always had feet of clay ....to me that makes them human .....

       
       


That's the way I see it too, I was a big supporter of Chris but imo he's lost his self respect to join the nasty gang, I know there's money involved but he had it in the bag by being a nice person and has now lost it by joining the people that belittled him for weeks,he should have took Pav under his wing and been the better person

Yes and bliddy Mark started the nastiness about Pav's letter! 

I feel sorry for both Pav and Chris. Chris was being unkind i.m.o. but his character change doesn't make sense - there's loads left out [see Baz's earlier post] and selective editing at play, for sure.

 

 

 

Why should he be the one to take him under his wing ? Chris more than anyone has reason not to like him .....Pav followed Helen and said Chris was the most two faced HM !!

       
       


I think it was more what he implied (she's got a boyfriend) that was bad, was he looking at Steven cause he had a girlfriend

Stand by your man!   

       
Steven saying he stares at him is completely different. Chris made out that he was doing it to an 18yr old girl in a letchy way.

You obviously don't get how bad that would be to be accused of something like that on TV.

Yes, but it was Danielle ( and to some extent Ashliegh) that started it ......but I agree ....he's on his way out

Oh I do ....but I don't think he meant it that way ....I think he was just warning him it looked bad .....and of course , I think he does have a bit of a crush But I know I'm in the minority here  

Because Chris said that to him, he's planted a seed in Pav's head. The poor guy will be paranoid when he's in the same room as Ashleigh from now on, plus he'll probably be scared to look at anyone for more than 2 seconds.

You don't say that to someone's face like that, especially on national TV. It's the act of an absolute c**t who would shit on anyone to benefit himself.

Chris is the type of person who if you were on fire, you'd expect him to call 999 and help you, but when push comes to shove he wouldn't even piss on you.

I've always said he's an untrustworthy snake. Great character to have as a bb housemate (which is why I've wanted him to stay), but a wanker in reality.

That's your opinion. I think he's a decent guy , in fact the most decent one in there .....but hey ho ....that's BB ....and it's all * scripted* anyway  

I've loved watching Chris, baz. I really have, but I'd never trust him, ever.

I'd trust Helen as a friend more than Chris. I'd know exactly where I stood with her, I wouldn't have a clue with Chris.

See I am the exact opposite .....Chris is the only one in there that I would give the time of day ....I love his dry sense of humour...and the fact he actually has a brain But we are all different , horses for courses

He's very intelligent yeah, he does show a good sense of humour at times yeah, but there's a side to him that I just wouldn't trust. As a viewer he's one of my fave housemates even though he did cross the line with the Pav thing.

It really is. Boring  etc.

Ditto!!

Hi Cologne Yes , its a real chore

Very good point, Aims  - makes it even more obvious he was being sly (or as I think Judy James was implying when I woke up there..)  Just that he fancies her himself.

Same here

I'm still seeing nothing but a really nice guy.
He's not the loudest and most interesting of them, far from it in fact. But he doesn't talk behind people's backs, he's not confrontational, I've not seen any evidence of this "staring at Ashleigh in a sexy way" as Chris put it.

I can't for the life of me see any reason why people (public or hm's) would hate the guy.

Ignoring every other reply, this is my opinion, Pav has been sold out by Chris, Chris has spent the last 2 weeks telling every HM that will listen that Pav is staring at Ashleigh We never saw Pav staring at Ashleigh. 

 

Downfall of no live feed

I must admit, not unlike the hms, I took an instant dislike to Pav from his VT, very cocky and full of himself with all of his, "I'm a ladies man, I know how the game works and can manipulate, I was a psychology student so I can read people and influence them,  Can I win big brother, truth is I've already won," and then how pleased and animated he was about immediately being given the power to evict a hm, flexing his muscles and strutting around the dr. He hasn't lived up to any of that, hasn't integrated and has allowed himself to become a victim who has done nothing to interest me. I'm glad he stayed 'though, just so we can see how the other hms change their behaviour towards him now they think that he's more popular with the public with 'bubbly' 'fun time' Zoe