Sprout posted:

And maybe I should switch the news off at this moment in time 

be like me and don't watch it, or certain channels I should say 

Rocking Ros posted:

hi sprooty and bazzy

Hi there Ros I won't mention the weather 

Rocking Ros posted:

hi dammeeee bestie lovely day but working hope you are OK

Nice day here too Ros and yes thanks I'm ok 

sprooty just caught your posts re holidays - I don't get paid for holiday s- if I don't work I don't get paid but I I have the option to put by a percentage of my earnings as holiday pay  with the agencies umberella services (which I pay for) as they do my tax and insurance)- I then request my holiday pay at the end of term for example -

here you go Pam

3. Calculate leave entitlement

Annual leave begins to build up (‘accrue’) as soon as a worker starts their job.

An employer can use a ‘leave year’ or an ‘accrual’ system to work out how much leave their staff should get.

https://www.gov.uk/holiday-ent...te-leave-entitlement

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

hi dammeeee bestie lovely day but working hope you are OK

 

 

Nice day here too Ros and yes thanks I'm ok 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

It means getting paid or not though, the jobs I've worked in have always paid me for my holidays and not lost the time, not this one 

 

 

 You have to work to accumulate holidays. They don't give you holidays in advance  Even Lynds at the hospital had to work to gain holidays 

Yes

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

It means getting paid or not though, the jobs I've worked in have always paid me for my holidays and not lost the time, not this one 

 

 

 You have to work to accumulate holidays. They don't give you holidays in advance  Even Lynds at the hospital had to work to gain holidays 

Which I have done. I just can't get my head around the way it comes off your entitlement, paid or unpaid. Am I really that thick after all the years I've worked since leaving school? 

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

And maybe I should switch the news off at this moment in time 

Why ...what's on ?

Meh, just the usual Tory rhetoric 

Rocking Ros posted:

sprooty just caught your posts re holidays - I don't get paid for holiday s- if I don't work I don't get paid but I I have the option to put by a percentage of my earnings as holiday pay  with the agencies umberella services (which I pay for) as they do my tax and insurance)- I then request my holiday pay at the end of term for example -

That's more or less what I used to do too 

Sprout posted:

Which I have done. I just can't get my head around the way it comes off your entitlement, paid or unpaid. Am I really that thick after all the years I've worked since leaving school? 

 If you have a 120 hours and you take that in five days then you have used that week up surely. 

Baz posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

sprooty just caught your posts re holidays - I don't get paid for holiday s- if I don't work I don't get paid but I I have the option to put by a percentage of my earnings as holiday pay  with the agencies umberella services (which I pay for) as they do my tax and insurance)- I then request my holiday pay at the end of term for example -

That's more or less what I used to do too 

Rocking Ros posted:

sprooty just caught your posts re holidays - I don't get paid for holiday s- if I don't work I don't get paid but I I have the option to put by a percentage of my earnings as holiday pay  with the agencies umberella services (which I pay for) as they do my tax and insurance)- I then request my holiday pay at the end of term for example -

See, maybe that's my problem. I've always been ok with what I've taken as holidays and been paid for them as is normal. 

Now, if I want a Bank Holiday off, I have to apply for it (if I want it paid) and if it's paid it comes off my holiday hours or if I don't apply it will be taken off my hours without pay 

Sprout posted:

See, maybe that's my problem. I've always been ok with what I've taken as holidays and been paid for them as is normal. 

Now, if I want a Bank Holiday off, I have to apply for it (if I want it paid) and if it's paid it comes off my holiday hours or if I don't apply it will be taken off my hours without pay 

I've put the link in for holiday entitlement and you could check, maybe agency workers don't have the same rights concerning bank holidays because they are casual  

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

See, maybe that's my problem. I've always been ok with what I've taken as holidays and been paid for them as is normal. 

Now, if I want a Bank Holiday off, I have to apply for it (if I want it paid) and if it's paid it comes off my holiday hours or if I don't apply it will be taken off my hours without pay 

I've put the link in for holiday entitlement and you could check, maybe agency workers don't have the same rights concerning bank holidays because they are casual  

I don't get paid for bank holidays - no work = no pay

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Which I have done. I just can't get my head around the way it comes off your entitlement, paid or unpaid. Am I really that thick after all the years I've worked since leaving school? 

 

 If you have a 120 hours and you take that in five days then you have used that week up surely. 

Right, so I've got about 57 and some odd hours at the minute I think. I have to apply for the Bank Holiday at the end of the month if I want it paid which will come off my 57 and some odd hours   I can take those hours if I don't get the application in, in time but it will be unpaid but not come off my 57 plus some odd hours 

sprooty - would it change with  a permanent contract??- this would give you more rights -

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

See, maybe that's my problem. I've always been ok with what I've taken as holidays and been paid for them as is normal. 

Now, if I want a Bank Holiday off, I have to apply for it (if I want it paid) and if it's paid it comes off my holiday hours or if I don't apply it will be taken off my hours without pay 

I've put the link in for holiday entitlement and you could check, maybe agency workers don't have the same rights concerning bank holidays because they are casual  

You've hit the nail on the head!!   Thank you! 

Sprout posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

sprooty just caught your posts re holidays - I don't get paid for holiday s- if I don't work I don't get paid but I I have the option to put by a percentage of my earnings as holiday pay  with the agencies umberella services (which I pay for) as they do my tax and insurance)- I then request my holiday pay at the end of term for example -

See, maybe that's my problem. I've always been ok with what I've taken as holidays and been paid for them as is normal. 

Now, if I want a Bank Holiday off, I have to apply for it (if I want it paid) and if it's paid it comes off my holiday hours or if I don't apply it will be taken off my hours without pay 

same here sprooty - its an agency thing - perhaps they will give you a contract - then you would have more rights

Rocking Ros posted:

sprooty - would it change with  a permanent contract??- this would give you more rights -

I think it would Wozzer, but with the crap that's going on now in NPS, they give with one hand and take with the other 

Sprout posted:

Right, so I've got about 57 and some odd hours at the minute I think. I have to apply for the Bank Holiday at the end of the month if I want it paid which will come off my 57 and some odd hours   I can take those hours if I don't get the application in, in time but it will be unpaid but not come off my 57 plus some odd hours 

I don't know how bank holidays work for agency workers, I have put the link in for you to check. If you take a day off those hours it will come off because those hours are you're actually holiday days you have. If you were on a permanent contract you would accumulate holiday days in your first year, second year you would probably get your full holiday entitlement. 

Sprout posted:

I think it would Wozzer, but with the crap that's going on now in NPS, they give with one hand and take with the other 

well, why are you not applying at other places 

What are you up to tomorrow Dame ? How was your brother ?

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Right, so I've got about 57 and some odd hours at the minute I think. I have to apply for the Bank Holiday at the end of the month if I want it paid which will come off my 57 and some odd hours   I can take those hours if I don't get the application in, in time but it will be unpaid but not come off my 57 plus some odd hours 

I don't know how bank holidays work for agency workers, I have put the link in for you to check. If you take a day off those hours it will come off because those hours are you're actually holiday days you have. If you were on a permanent contract you would accumulate holiday days in your first year, second year you would probably get your full holiday entitlement. 

That's the way the agency workers have got people by the balls  It's a money making racket.

Baz posted:

What are you up to tomorrow Dame ? How was your brother ?

I have kids pick up in the afternoon baz and nothing much else apart from housework and a parcel to post...I'll vote on my way to pick Sam up, it's next door. brother slept the whole time we were in  What you up to? 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

I think it would Wozzer, but with the crap that's going on now in NPS, they give with one hand and take with the other 

 

well, why are you not applying at other places 

Because, the number of places I've applied to in the past don't want to know and I'm thinking, for the years I have left it's better to stick with what I have, and try to get out when I can 

Sprout posted:

That's the way the agency workers have got people by the balls  It's a money making racket.

surely not you  and we know agency work is different to contracted work Pam....

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

What are you up to tomorrow Dame ? How was your brother ?

 

I have kids pick up in the afternoon baz and nothing much else apart from housework and a parcel to post...I'll vote on my way to pick Sam up, it's next door. brother slept the whole time we were in  What you up to? 

Oh yes, it's local elections isn't it ....we've not got them here . Just housework and some paperwork for me 

Sprout posted:

Because, the number of places I've applied to in the past don't want to know and I'm thinking, for the years I have left it's better to stick with what I have, and try to get out when I can 

it's easier to get into work when you're working than unemployed and if you don't try how do you know, nothing lost applying. 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

That's the way the agency workers have got people by the balls  It's a money making racket.

 

surely not you  and we know agency work is different to contracted work Pam....

Figuratively (sp) speaking, you know what I mean 

Right , I slept badly last night so I am going to call it a day Goodnight , sleep well and sweet dreams Dame , Ros and Sprout 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Because, the number of places I've applied to in the past don't want to know and I'm thinking, for the years I have left it's better to stick with what I have, and try to get out when I can 

 

it's easier to get into work when you're working than unemployed and if you don't try how do you know, nothing lost applying. 

Damesy....we've been over this one before 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

That's the way the agency workers have got people by the balls  It's a money making racket.

 

surely not you  and we know agency work is different to contracted work Pam....

TBh agencies would steal from their granny to manipulate  peeps - they are lethal but suits me ATM as I have flexibility

Baz posted:

Oh yes, it's local elections isn't it ....we've not got them here . Just housework and some paperwork for me 

County Council and local...I'm rooting for three of my mates ..the Solway planes one will be lucky if we get that one though. 

Sprout posted:

unemployed and if you don't try how do you know, nothing lost applying. 

 

Damesy....we've been over this one before 

we've been over everything before...I feel as if I need go and make a packed lunch for a shift 

night bazzyboots

Rocking Ros posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

That's the way the agency workers have got people by the balls  It's a money making racket.

 

surely not you  and we know agency work is different to contracted work Pam....

TBh agencies would steal from their granny to manipulate  peeps - they are lethal but suits me ATM as I have flexibility

   They are lower than a snake's belly in my eyes Wozzer 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

unemployed and if you don't try how do you know, nothing lost applying. 

 

Damesy....we've been over this one before 

 

we've been over everything before...I feel as if I need go and make a packed lunch for a shift 

Baz posted:

Right , I slept badly last night so I am going to call it a day Goodnight , sleep well and sweet dreams Dame , Ros and Sprout 

me too Baz, I'll be following you any second ...sweet dreams  

Yeah, I need to go too. Been busy today, due to certain peeps not puling their weight