Image copyright Getty ImagesMore than 100 homes in a tower block on a council estate in Camden, north London, are be evacuated because of safety concerns over cladding in the aftermath of the Grenfell Tower fire.
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Sheffield has loads of flats, some of them with relatively new cladding. My friend lives on the top floor of one of them. Not actually spoken to him about it yet.
I for one, will not be betting against you, Baz.
The MIL lives in a tower block (3rd floor). Mr Fluffy and I have kept the Grenfell Tower news from her, but we can't vouch for what other family members might say to her.
Just turned over to Sky News....800 to be evacuated 
Heads need to roll somewhere for this debacle 
it's not only flats, it's schools, shopping centres....a multitude of buildings 
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
it's not only flats, it's schools, shopping centres....a multitude of buildings
I've seen something, somewhere to say that NHS need to check theirs
Sprout posted:I've seen something, somewhere to say that NHS need to check theirs
and they wonder why there is rage in the country
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Sprout posted:I've seen something, somewhere to say that NHS need to check theirs
and they wonder why there is rage in the country
I tell you, I can see uprising shortly
Sprout posted:
hopefully it won't come to that, but this is what happens when you deliberately cause a bigger divide.
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Sprout posted:
hopefully it won't come to that, but this is what happens when you deliberately cause a bigger divide.
Hopefully.....but tensions are rising, and then they will send the police in to deal with things.....what police? when they've been cut beyond all recognition 
Sprout posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:
it's not only flats, it's schools, shopping centres....a multitude of buildings
I've seen something, somewhere to say that NHS need to check theirs
Oh hell! I work in the basement of a hospital that was built in 2000! It'll all collapse on top of me!
Sprout posted:Hopefully.....but tensions are rising, and then they will send the police in to deal with things.....what police? when they've been cut beyond all recognition
everything was cut to the bone to give away billions in tax ...the inequality in this country is now back to Victorian times and instead of austerity fairly for everyone and investing in housing and hospitals we wouldn't be cladding over cracks.
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Sprout posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:
it's not only flats, it's schools, shopping centres....a multitude of buildings
I've seen something, somewhere to say that NHS need to check theirs
Oh hell! I work in the basement of a hospital that was built in 2000! It'll all collapse on top of me!
Obviously we all hope it wont Fluffs but the fact that they've been told to check theirs.....
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Oh hell! I work in the basement of a hospital that was built in 2000! It'll all collapse on top of me!
I wouldn't worry, rate they are closing them it will probably be shut before it falls down 
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Sprout posted:Hopefully.....but tensions are rising, and then they will send the police in to deal with things.....what police? when they've been cut beyond all recognition
everything was cut to the bone to give away billions in tax ...the inequality in this country is now back to Victorian times and instead of austerity fairly for everyone and investing in housing and hospitals we wouldn't be cladding over cracks.
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Oh hell! I work in the basement of a hospital that was built in 2000! It'll all collapse on top of me!
I wouldn't worry, rate they are closing them it will probably be shut before it falls down
That wouldn't really surprise me either. 
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:
I don't think you're area is on the new list of the next 24 
Twenty four and no one seems to give a sh*t, unbelieveable
No matter what people think of the Scottish government, I personally, think that the NHS in Scotland is a little less battered than the NHS in England BECAUSE we have a Scottish government.
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:No matter what people think of the Scottish government, I personally, think that the NHS in Scotland is a little less battered than the NHS in England BECAUSE we have a Scottish government.
I totally agree Fluffy, you've not got these greedy barstewards running riot in your hospitals, Private firms putting in lower bids than the NHS and winning them, it's quite sickening really.
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:No matter what people think of the Scottish government, I personally, think that the NHS in Scotland is a little less battered than the NHS in England BECAUSE we have a Scottish government.
And I think it's a North/South thing. What the hell does this Tory Government know about us up here? be it right or left side of the country
Sprout posted:And I think it's a North/South thing. What the hell does this Tory Government know about us up here? be it right or left side of the country
it's not Pam....a lot of the hospitals cuts are in London on the next list...Cornwall and Devon are in real poverty, but because of the area it covers it's tory even though labour got the most votes.
Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:No matter what people think of the Scottish government, I personally, think that the NHS in Scotland is a little less battered than the NHS in England BECAUSE we have a Scottish government.
And I think it's a North/South thing. What the hell does this Tory Government know about us up here? be it right or left side of the country
You do know that the streets south of Watford aren't paved with gold , don't you ?
4,000 people being moved out tonight where are they going to place these people...what about their jobs etc 
Baz posted:I don't think they dare risk it happening again Dame .....I know if I had to live in one of those affected blocks I'd be terrified
oh I agree Baz, but this is just one area and 5 blocks, there must be thousand upon thousands in danger elsewhere 
So it's 5 tower blocks now!
Camden Council says people in flats in five towers on the Chalcots estate will be moved for "urgent fire safety works" - and it is "block-booking hotels".
Dame_Ann_Average posted:4,000 people being moved out tonight
My sis just phoned me to tell me this - moving all these people into leisure centres? What the hell are they going to do with everyone because there's going to be huge numbers involved - more and more as they test more buildings I believe.
The keep mentioning the Hotpoint fridge freezer model... anyone sniff a whiff of trying to shift part of the blame?
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:So it's 5 tower blocks now!
Camden Council says people in flats in five towers on the Chalcots estate will be moved for "urgent fire safety works" - and it is "block-booking hotels".
and this woman talking at the moment says it not the cladding - it's gas pipes and fire doors not up to spec?
Kaffs posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:4,000 people being moved out tonight
My sis just phoned me to tell me this - moving all these people into leisure centres? What the hell are they going to do with everyone because there's going to be huge numbers involved - more and more as they test more buildings I believe.
The keep mentioning the Hotpoint fridge freezer model... anyone sniff a whiff of trying to shift part of the blame?
I can't sleep, and am so 'worked up' at the moment. a conglomeration of things though
I just had to come back on here and pick out what a brilliant post Kaffs just made
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:So it's 5 tower blocks now!
Camden Council says people in flats in five towers on the Chalcots estate will be moved for "urgent fire safety works" - and it is "block-booking hotels".
Today's report says 4 blocks.
Why can't the media ever get these things right? 
It looks like a logistical nightmare, heaven knows where they'll put them all. The London Assembly should be co-ordinating the various boroughs, but where Has Citizen Khan disappeared to?....Nowhere to be seen.....must be waiting for someone to write another set of platitudes
Kaffs posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:So it's 5 tower blocks now!
Camden Council says people in flats in five towers on the Chalcots estate will be moved for "urgent fire safety works" - and it is "block-booking hotels".
and this woman talking at the moment says it not the cladding - it's gas pipes and fire doors not up to spec?
Yep!.....pipes left without fireproof cladding, firedoors not fitting properly and residents drilling holes in walls they shouldn't have touched....a right conglom of errors
Kaytee posted:It looks like a logistical nightmare, heaven knows where they'll put them all. The London Assembly should be co-ordinating the various boroughs, but where Has Citizen Khan disappeared to?....Nowhere to be seen.....must be waiting for someone to write another set of platitudes
Yes , especially as most of the boroughs/councils are Labour led ....and have been for years ...
Cuts to Labour authorities and five times higher than Conservative councils, I bet Camden Council havn't a 279 billion surplus like K&C. Not that there is any excuse for poor work and living conditions but with a 279 billion surplus there's absolutely no excuse why Grenfell tower was prettied up with cheaper cladding. Although this could have been clarified last year if the Conservatives hadn't voted the fit for habitation bill down.
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Cuts to Labour authorities and five times higher than Conservative councils, I bet Camden Council havn't a 279 billion surplus like K&C. Not that there is any excuse for poor work and living conditions but with a 279 billion surplus there's absolutely no excuse why Grenfell tower was prettied up with cheaper cladding. Although this could have been clarified last year if the Conservatives hadn't voted the fit for habitation bill down.
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Cuts to Labour authorities and five times higher than Conservative councils, I bet Camden Council havn't a 279 billion surplus like K&C. Not that there is any excuse for poor work and living conditions but with a 279 billion surplus there's absolutely no excuse why Grenfell tower was prettied up with cheaper cladding. Although this could have been clarified last year if the Conservatives hadn't voted the fit for habitation bill down.
Built under labour ....ruled by Labour for years before the Tories came to power ....I swear if there was an earthquake in Australia these days it would somehow be deemed the Conservatives fault
Baz posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Cuts to Labour authorities and five times higher than Conservative councils, I bet Camden Council havn't a 279 billion surplus like K&C. Not that there is any excuse for poor work and living conditions but with a 279 billion surplus there's absolutely no excuse why Grenfell tower was prettied up with cheaper cladding. Although this could have been clarified last year if the Conservatives hadn't voted the fit for habitation bill down.
Built under labour ....ruled by Labour for years before the Tories came to power ....I swear if there was an earthquake in Australia these days it would somehow be deemed the Conservatives fault
Amen sister!
Baz posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Cuts to Labour authorities and five times higher than Conservative councils, I bet Camden Council havn't a 279 billion surplus like K&C. Not that there is any excuse for poor work and living conditions but with a 279 billion surplus there's absolutely no excuse why Grenfell tower was prettied up with cheaper cladding. Although this could have been clarified last year if the Conservatives hadn't voted the fit for habitation bill down.
Built under labour ....ruled by Labour for years before the Tories came to power ....I swear if there was an earthquake in Australia these days it would somehow be deemed the Conservatives fault
No it wouldn't but they haven't actually covered themselves in glory these past few weeks have they?
